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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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07-22-2008 06:36
Buncha' prudes, I tell ya'! Don't make me put on my primsuit! (=_=)
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Steely Carver
The dreamer or the dream?
Join date: 10 Nov 2007
Posts: 515
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07-22-2008 08:41
Wow, this subject has the longest shelf-life of any subject I have ever seen.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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07-22-2008 08:51
Wow, this subject has the longest shelf-life of any subject I have ever seen. _____________________
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Amy Stork
Way past use by date
Join date: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 646
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07-22-2008 09:01
Wow, this subject has the longest shelf-life of any subject I have ever seen. I agree - I only bit cos the OP was about nudist places otherwise this dead horse has been well and truly flogged. Incidentally I just met June the OP very nice lady ![]() |
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Koffeekid Smalls
Milk N Kookies Host
Join date: 22 Jan 2007
Posts: 30
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Nakie Time
07-22-2008 09:26
As a child avatar who is pretty well known in the community, many kids have approached me with this question and my response is pretty much the same.
Don't do anything that wouldn't be appropriate for an RL kid to be doing. A kid scampering around with his bum bum hanging out on a sim specifically designed for this activity is fine as it would be on a nude beach in RL. Keep it all in perspective and try to be considerate of others roleplay along the way! Nothing worse than building a sandcastle on the beach and being approached with the now infamous line "so are you REALLY a kid?" Nudity itself isn't a sexual thing but our society sure has done a good job on making it appear to ![]() |
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
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07-22-2008 09:30
Sheesh. And to think I didn't go to the tag end of a pool party the other evening when I was "kidding around" because there'd be adults in swimwear. Don't sweat it. CX has a Cartel pool party almost every Sunday; I go there lots. _____________________
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Ty Gabe
Registered User
Join date: 1 Sep 2007
Posts: 217
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07-22-2008 10:49
These were covered on TV Sky 24 hours News last summer. I've heard from a knowledgable source that Sky News is a bunch of Boogerheads. ![]() By the way, this paranoia is spreading more in RL, as well. As a photographer (hobby, not by trade) I ran across a news article refernce in a photography forum of a father in the UK who was asked to stop photograhing his own children having fun on an inflatable slide in a park by both the slide operator and one of the other parents, even after he assured them that he was only photographing his own children. The family left after being accused of pedophilia intent. Sad. |
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Amity Slade
Registered User
Join date: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,183
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07-22-2008 11:04
This morning came across 3 children on the Mature Laguna Nude Beach. Ok probably not children in real life, well I hope not. It looked nice at first but now afterwards is concerning me, because of possible sexual implecations and the type of men with children in the real world. I noted the names, (Deleted) Are there no Linden rules on this? The rules are right here: http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/13/clarification-of-policy-disallowing-ageplay/ And they are not necessarily easy to find or to understand, which is probably why the child avatar threads are so pervasive. But what you described does not violate these rules. |
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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07-22-2008 12:08
Are there no Linden rules on this? Love, June Now did't I say I wanted less of these threads f'r my birthday? June, this may be of use to you: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Marianne_McCann/Child_Avatars Mari _____________________
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
Posts: 11,319
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07-22-2008 12:22
.... A nudist colony is not a sex place, that is correct, however in the minds of some there is a connection between nudity and sex. This is just a fact of life I'm afraid - many SL players do not seem to make the distiniction. (This may also have something to do with people having english as a second language and the fact that some nude beaches also promote themselves as sex places) .... In RL I have been to nudist areas where there are children and I have been to some that are adult only. And as many have said, nudity does not imply or mean sex. _____________________
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Hana Timtam
::Piratess Princess::
Join date: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 225
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07-22-2008 12:33
. Said "child" called me one day and asked me to come fix something. While there, I could not help but notice that there was adult equipment in the room...nothing extreme, just some spanking stuff. This caused me a lot of anxious moments while I tried to figure out if I needed to do something/anything about it. I decided, no, this was NOT my business. She pays her rent on time, and I've never seen any actual issues (other than equipment in the room). I do still wonder from time to time... i just wanted to respond to this pretty quick.. Just like nudity doesn't equal sex (even two adults nude together doesn't equal sex, or sexual feelings or something erotic) - spanking doesn't either... That is to say, Spanking doesn't necessarily equate to sex. i mean.. in RL parents spank their children (not saying if this is morally right or wrong) but that doesn't mean the parent is engaging in sexual activity with their child. In SL i can see how some child avatars might include spanking in the same platonic way. Heck, i know adults in RL D/s relationships which include spanking, but do not include \any\ sex. 'Cause discipline and sex or submission and sex don't necessarily always go together. That's all. |
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Hana Timtam
::Piratess Princess::
Join date: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 225
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07-22-2008 12:34
Truthfully, based upon all of the RL nudist areas I have been to, it is usually the Americans that are more likely to associate nudity and sex because as a nation we are very prudish. In RL I have been to nudist areas where there are children and I have been to some that are adult only. And as many have said, nudity does not imply or mean sex. ^_^ well said |
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
Owner, The Mall at Cherry
Join date: 18 Jun 2007
Posts: 4,500
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07-22-2008 12:44
iThat is to say, Spanking doesn't necessarily equate to sex. i mean.. in RL parents spank their children (not saying if this is morally right or wrong) but that doesn't mean the parent is engaging in sexual activity with their child. In SL i can see how some child avatars might include spanking in the same platonic way. Which is precisely why I decided to leave it alone. I just don't know the circumstances, and honestly, don't want to know. It's her business, not mine. _____________________
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TundraFire Nightfire
Permafrostbilly
Join date: 5 Apr 2008
Posts: 532
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07-22-2008 13:04
I keep seeing mention of Sky News and a story they did about a year ago on SL. What's Sky News and how do I find the story online? Anyone know?
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Allegria Kanto
Trailing clouds of glory
Join date: 28 Nov 2007
Posts: 1,004
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07-22-2008 13:10
You will note I have allready taken names off to protect these *children* from sexual approaches. June BTW, they are not children, they are adults role-playing as children. _____________________
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Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
Posts: 2,386
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07-22-2008 13:22
BTW, they are not children, they are adults role-playing as children. If someone plays an ava of either gender, they usually want to be identified as that gender. If someone seriously plays a furry, they want to be identified as that animal. To me, it stands to reason that if someone plays a child ava, they want to be recognised as a kid. Even though we "know" they are adults, I would talk to them and treat them as children. It doesn't matter what they are on the other side of the monitor as far as identification goes. edit: forgive my misnomer-mongering, I looked at the pic, not the name. Srry ![]() _____________________
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Hana Timtam
::Piratess Princess::
Join date: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 225
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07-22-2008 13:25
I keep seeing mention of Sky News and a story they did about a year ago on SL. What's Sky News and how do I find the story online? Anyone know? http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/20082851290719 i googled and that's what i found. i dunno if that's what everyone's referring to. there's associated videos at the bottom... i couldn't get them to play on the SkyNews site.. but here's an off-site link to the longer of the two videos http://ettf.net/archives/9108 |
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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07-22-2008 13:53
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/20082851290719 i googled and that's what i found. i dunno if that's what everyone's referring to. there's associated videos at the bottom... i couldn't get them to play on the SkyNews site.. but here's an off-site link to the longer of the two videos http://ettf.net/archives/9108 There are others: I may have the URLs at home (I'm gettin onna train in SF) _____________________
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Allegria Kanto
Trailing clouds of glory
Join date: 28 Nov 2007
Posts: 1,004
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07-22-2008 14:01
If someone plays an ava of either gender, they usually want to be identified as that gender. If someone seriously plays a furry, they want to be identified as that animal. To me, it stands to reason that if someone plays a child ava, they want to be recognised as a kid. Even though we "know" they are adults, I would talk to them and treat them as children. It doesn't matter what they are on the other side of the monitor as far as identification goes. edit: forgive my misnomer-mongering, I looked at the pic, not the name. Srry ![]() I totally agree with that stance in world and to a certain extent when addressing child Avs in the Forum. However, I think when discussing the possibility of identifying "children" to pedophiles in a forum, speaking in the third person, it is important to remember that these are adults. They are not children in need of protection. Not only are they probably perfectly capable of AR'ing any untoward advances, most of the kid Av's I know are perfectly familiar with mute, ban, eject. Continuing to refer to these "children" in the third person, IMO only feeds the hysteria surrounding this issue. _____________________
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Amy Stork
Way past use by date
Join date: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 646
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07-22-2008 14:03
Truthfully, based upon all of the RL nudist areas I have been to, it is usually the Americans that are more likely to associate nudity and sex because as a nation we are very prudish. In RL I have been to nudist areas where there are children and I have been to some that are adult only. And as many have said, nudity does not imply or mean sex. I dont think you can compare RL nudist beaches and SL ones - I have been to RL ones where there are kids and everything is perfectly normal. My post was specifically about SL in this case. |
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Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
Posts: 2,386
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07-22-2008 14:16
I totally agree with that stance in world and to a certain extent when addressing child Avs in the Forum. However, I think when discussing the possibility of identifying "children" to pedophiles in a forum, speaking in the third person, it is important to remember that these are adults. Oh, yes, agreed. Inworld and elsewhere are two different things. Inworld, they are children. In the forum, they are adults. This isn't SL, here. I was thinking strictly inworld. _____________________
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Kyrah Abattoir
cruelty delight
Join date: 4 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,786
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07-22-2008 14:26
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Bree Giffen
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Join date: 22 Jun 2006
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07-22-2008 17:01
Child avatars going to nude beaches of this type are mainly doing so to grief or at the very least to bring awkward discomfort to the people there. I recall the place is staffed and they will promptly remove the children when reported.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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07-22-2008 18:28
Child avatars going to nude beaches of this type are mainly doing so to grief or at the very least to bring awkward discomfort to the people there. I recall the place is staffed and they will promptly remove the children when reported. _____________________
Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y
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Chav Paderborn
in ur sl
Join date: 25 Nov 2006
Posts: 192
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07-22-2008 19:30
I got nothing against child avs (used to be one) but it does come with needing a certain awareness of how things might appear to others. Being on a naked beach is probably one of those things.
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