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Will non-adult PG parcels be moved OUT of the adult continent?

Scott Savira
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03-25-2009 09:54
From: Lindal Kidd
I don't have an adult business on my land, and never have. The only adult-type content has always been in private residences, and 99% of the time, anyone who's there isn't using the poseballs anyway.

But I'm still thinking of relocating. Ursula will be the only place in SL where you truly have no restrictions on your imagination and creativity. That's worth something to me, and I bet it will be to others, too. I think land on Ursula will command the same sort of premium over Mature land that Mature now does over PG land.


Maybe another reason to consider estate living for many people... that's as long as the estate owner intends to flag as adult when the apocolypse arrives.... and doesn't change his mind.... or sell it out from under you...

Ursula will definitely be attractive though, if you are ok with putting the money up for it.

*sneaks off to unpack is sex club in a box*
Ciaran Laval
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03-25-2009 10:49
If the guys with PG parcels move to Ursula, within a year or two LL will be blogging about the next "Super Adult continent", due to people having an unpredictable experience in the current adult continent.
sable Valentine
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03-25-2009 12:07
From: Pserendipity Daniels
I think you answered your own question.

Pep (Doesn't want kids on his lawn)


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Ciera Spyker
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03-25-2009 12:53
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
If any of this is true, the continent will be abandoned within a couple months. Really, if the place doesn't strike up a balance between the naughtiest of naughties and good clean fun, people will get fapped out and move on. (=_=)

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Obviously they dont play the game right. This is Pornopulis, Not some cheesy half baked, middle of the road, fits all tastes endevour.... its very purpose is to go visit to Fap. then go back to your precious boring pg land.
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Also, that said, who's to say the speculators won't jack up the prices to L$50,000/M as it's going to be the Next Big Thing®©™ in land ownership. (=_=)

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I'm 100% sure this wil be an all time high in real estate for the labs. If you doubt that I think your meds wore off.
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Or, even better. Whos' to say some radical right wing moralist group won't buy up ALL the land and make a giant PG theme park out if it? Or, even more subtle, get parcels in a quarter of each sim and turn them into moral rehabilitation infohubs? (>_<;)



infohubs arent squeaky clean to begin with...
Ceera Murakami
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03-25-2009 12:55
From: Ciaran Laval
If the guys with PG parcels move to Ursula, within a year or two LL will be blogging about the next "Super Adult continent", due to people having an unpredictable experience in the current adult continent.
No, because even if what they placed on their parcel in Pornoland would all be acceptable on the set of "Leave it to Beaver", their parcel will still be flagged "Mature / Adult Access Only". so no one will go there who isn't approved for seeing XXX content.

Though I have to wonder... What if someone is a Premium member, and therefore Payment Info Used and validated to access the new Pornoland... But they are of a "sensative disposition" and would prefer not to be exposed to smut? Can they "opt out" of being able to TP to the XXX Adult locations that would otherwise allow them, because of their payment status?

I would think it necessary that LL offer that oprion as a choice too. A "I may be a verified Adult, but I don't wanna see porn, thanks" preference checkbox.

Note: Leave it to Beaver was a 1950's family sitcom TV show, featuring a squeaky-clean 50's stereotypical family, for those not old enough to remember it, or who haven't seen reruns on oldies TV stations
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Bree Giffen
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03-25-2009 14:35
I think that if you are adult verified but you don't want access to pornoland you will end up with LL saying if you don't want to see it don't go there. No need for enforcement.
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Petronilla Whitfield
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03-25-2009 14:58
Ok, say a few months pass after the relocation, and all the plots on Ursula are taken. A new XXX company wants to start up. Does LL relocate them to the new continent by adding a region to it, or do all new XXX business have to wait for land to come up for sale--at whatever cost--on Ursula?

If the second possibility comes to pass, it would be worth while for someone to own land on Ursula even if they never use it for XXX purposes. They could just wait on their PG themed plot for a buyer with a lot of cash.

Or am I missing something?
Ceera Murakami
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03-25-2009 15:12
From: Petronilla Whitfield
Ok, say a few months pass after the relocation, and all the plots on Ursula are taken. A new XXX company wants to start up. Does LL relocate them to the new continent by adding a region to it, or do all new XXX business have to wait for land to come up for sale--at whatever cost--on Ursula?

If the second possibility comes to pass, it would be worth while for someone to own land on Ursula even if they never use it for XXX purposes. They could just wait on their PG themed plot for a buyer with a lot of cash.

Or am I missing something?
Unless Linden Lab takes direct action to prevent it, (which would be 180 degrees contrary to every recent offering of large areas of land that LL has managed), then the instant they make it possible for individuals to violuntarily purchase land in the new XXX continent, the greedy speculators and land flippers and land bots will swoop in and try to buy up all the land, and then try to resell it at extortion rate prices. And they will have a monopoly on land suited to Adult activities.

I really want to know how LL intends to prevent that nightmare.

They failed utterly in that regard with Bay City and Nautilus City... both areas are still blighted with "for sale" parcels at insane prices. But this will be MUCH worse, as an Adult Business will have no other option, unless that can locate suitable land in an Adult rated private island sim.
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Nimue Jewell
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03-25-2009 15:59
From: Ceera Murakami
Unless Linden Lab takes direct action to prevent it, (which would be 180 degrees contrary to every recent offering of large areas of land that LL has managed), then the instant they make it possible for individuals to violuntarily purchase land in the new XXX continent, the greedy speculators and land flippers and land bots will swoop in and try to buy up all the land, and then try to resell it at extortion rate prices. And they will have a monopoly on land suited to Adult activities.

I really want to know how LL intends to prevent that nightmare.

They failed utterly in that regard with Bay City and Nautilus City... both areas are still blighted with "for sale" parcels at insane prices. But this will be MUCH worse, as an Adult Business will have no other option, unless that can locate suitable land in an Adult rated private island sim.


I agree 100% Ceera, and I also want to know how they are going to prevent it.
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Ciera Spyker
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03-25-2009 16:06
this is why i want to know the exact minute, NO, the exact SECOND these lots go on sale because it will only be a matter of minutes that the whole place is bought out.

this is going to be a bloodshed yet i see it coming..
Nimue Jewell
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03-25-2009 16:10
Oh, good grief.


From a transcript of a meeting yesterday (I assume only Lindens attended?) posted on the Wiki.

From: someone
Q: Will the adult region SIMs be in the same price category than mainland (195.00 USD) or because it is now an adult content SIM which would attrack certain traffic will the price be raised
A: No intent to price differently from Linden Lab; on open market another story



Full transcript here
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_Forum_Transcript
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Oryx Tempel
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03-25-2009 16:14
From: Ceera Murakami
No, because even if what they placed on their parcel in Pornoland would all be acceptable on the set of "Leave it to Beaver", their parcel will still be flagged "Mature / Adult Access Only". so no one will go there who isn't approved for seeing XXX content.

Heh... you said "beaver". :p

Seriously, though, as much as I'd like to uproot and move to Ursula just to avoid the Teen Masses, a large portion of my clientele is Muslim and would absolutely balk at entering Ursula just to buy an abaya.
Qie Niangao
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03-25-2009 16:19
That section was odd, too, for the wording: "No intent to price differently from Linden Lab...." Now, it's obviously not a verbatim transcript (which is weird enough), so hyperfine deconstruction of the text is probably not productive... but who other than Linden Lab could we be talking about here? Is there some new hardcore subsidiary of Linden Research Inc?

I'm about 99% sure it's just a transcription error, but an odd one to make. I suppose one could check with the person (not a Linden) who added the wiki article.
Paola Delpaso
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03-25-2009 16:26
From: Qie Niangao
That section was odd, too, for the wording: "No intent to price differently from Linden Lab...." Now, it's obviously not a verbatim transcript (which is weird enough), so hyperfine deconstruction of the text is probably not productive... but who other than Linden Lab could we be talking about here? Is there some new hardcore subsidiary of Linden Research Inc?

I'm about 99% sure it's just a transcription error, but an odd one to make. I suppose one could check with the person (not a Linden) who added the wiki article.
I think they just meant "the mainland", with the understanding that it's just another (although pretty big) estate with Linden Lab as the estate owner.


Fully agree. There will be land speculation on Ursula compared to which Bay City is looking like peanuts.

Anyone willing to take bets for the average parcel price? 20 L$/sq?
Paola Delpaso
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03-25-2009 16:32

Fully agree. There will be land speculation on Ursula compared to which Bay City is looking like peanuts.

Anyone willing to take bets for the averale parcel price? 20 L$/sq?
Nimue Jewell
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03-25-2009 16:37
From: Qie Niangao
That section was odd, too, for the wording: "No intent to price differently from Linden Lab...." Now, it's obviously not a verbatim transcript (which is weird enough), so hyperfine deconstruction of the text is probably not productive... but who other than Linden Lab could we be talking about here? Is there some new hardcore subsidiary of Linden Research Inc?

I'm about 99% sure it's just a transcription error, but an odd one to make. I suppose one could check with the person (not a Linden) who added the wiki article.


I thought that was odd too, Qie. If it is correct, the only thing I could think of was that LL isn't going to get involved if estate managers charge higher rent (tier) on adult regions as part of the "free market" will do what it will do mentality. :confused:

I also agree that the format of that "transcript" is very strange and leaves a lot to be desired.
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Nimue Jewell
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03-25-2009 16:42
Thinking about it more I just want to add, if the ONLY thing that snippet is referring to is tier, I think that is a good thing. I don't think LL should charge more in tier for adult regions.

If, however, the "hands off" approach extends to parcel price, how the new land will be made available to buyers, and reselling/land speculating then. . . I think it is poop. (Though I am not sure what exactly they can do about it.)
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Ceera Murakami
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03-25-2009 17:05
From: Nimue Jewell
Oh, good grief.


From a transcript of a meeting yesterday (I assume only Lindens attended?) posted on the Wiki.

From: someone

Q: Will the adult region SIMs be in the same price category than mainland (195.00 USD) or because it is now an adult content SIM which would attrack certain traffic will the price be raised
A: No intent to price differently from Linden Lab; on open market another story



Full transcript here
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_Forum_Transcript
Yeah, I saw that. Could mean they intend to remain hands-off and let the land scalpers rape is again, or could mean just as well that they intend to institute price caps. Guess which is more likely... *sigh*

*Goes off to buy a gallon cask of KY...*
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Ceera Murakami
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03-25-2009 17:08
From: Paola Delpaso
Anyone willing to take bets for the average parcel price? 20 L$/sq?
Try L$200 per M2 or more. The prices in Nautilus City and Bay City got far worse on some parcels than L$20 pr M2...

At one point it was reported that two 1024 M2 parcels in Yamm (A sim in Nautilus City) were purchased at auction for L$195,640 and L$191,540, then immediately put back up for sale at L$500,000 each. Close to L$500 per M2! Pure extortionate greed.
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Briana Dawson
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03-25-2009 19:24
From: Ceera Murakami

*Goes off to buy a gallon cask of KY...*

Purely wishful thinking on your half that LL will even use the KY when in fact they will probably use sand. :eek:
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Clarissa Lowell
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03-26-2009 00:22
Allowing PG parcels in an adult only continent makes no sense. Goes against the proposed purpose of not allowing anyone to see by accident, camming over, or 'being forced to see' adult content.

Imagine for instance someone sets up a PG parcel next to XXX parcel. Invites kids over for whatever PG activity, then says, "Hey kids...cam over there. Looka that!"*

I know - a clunky example, but how would that make sense, after giong through all this to separate grids.

It also would not make sense on the part of the parcel owner. Make a parcel PG when you could have that same thing on the mainland, and sell the XXX land parcel for (however times) more?

On land prices - unless Ursula, er, expands to fit, the prices will go high and stay high.
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*NB I am not saying anyone who changed a parcel to PG on the XXX continent would have that reasoning behind it. Rather, that it's one reason not to allow it.
Nina Stepford
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03-26-2009 02:52
is it somehow possible to flag a parcel 'pg' on a mature sim that i am somehow overlooking? this keeps getting mentioned and i have no idea how it is done. i wouldnt mind flagging some mature sim parcels 'pg' so i can get better search exposure.
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03-26-2009 04:01
From: Nina Stepford
is it somehow possible to flag a parcel 'pg' on a mature sim that i am somehow overlooking? this keeps getting mentioned and i have no idea how it is done. i wouldnt mind flagging some mature sim parcels 'pg' so i can get better search exposure.
There is a 'Mature Content' checkbox in the land options. Unchecking this should be what you want.
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03-26-2009 04:01
From: Bree Giffen
Since adult content stores and clubs will be forced to the adult continent will LL also enforce it the other way around?
It's a lot easier to make your PG store Adult than do the reverse.
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Qie Niangao
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03-26-2009 04:09
From: Paola Delpaso
There is a 'Mature Content' checkbox in the land options. Unchecking this should be what you want.
That checkbox only affects the rating of Search content for the parcel.

I think the OP didn't mean an officially PG-rated parcel, but just a parcel that wasn't "Adult enough" to really warrant the Adult rating. And confusion has ensued.
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