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Bree Giffen
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03-24-2009 19:39
Since adult content stores and clubs will be forced to the adult continent will LL also enforce it the other way around?
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Oryx Tempel
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03-24-2009 19:45
I'm assuming LL won't even install PG sims... whether you choose to make your parcel PG is your choice, I guess.
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Anti Antonelli
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03-24-2009 19:46
Once the place opens up for general land sales, I imagine anybody who moves there and wants to stay will simply need to display a suitably naughty picture in their front yard or some such thing. Yet another reason this whole thing is stupid.
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Bree Giffen
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03-24-2009 20:03
I'm assuming LL won't even install PG sims... whether you choose to make your parcel PG is your choice, I guess. I don't think it will be a choice. If you set up a pg home, store or club you can get people to go on the pretense that they are going to a pg area. Whoops now they're surrounded by adult parcels. Can't have that. PG will have to leave. Possibly even mature will have to leave too. |
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Cristalle Karami
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03-24-2009 20:25
I don't think it will be a choice. If you set up a pg home, store or club you can get people to go on the pretense that they are going to a pg area. Whoops now they're surrounded by adult parcels. Can't have that. PG will have to leave. Possibly even mature will have to leave too. This is what I don't understand. Many people do "adult" things in their own residences. They (now) classify this as "mature" since it's in a home, not a business. What is the difference, really? That said, I think that people who want to be surrounded by adult land, doing mature activities, will be safe. I even think that PG will be safe, so long as the PG parcel and its events do not show up without the mature search option on. _____________________
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Nina Stepford
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03-24-2009 20:54
you mean will ll demand that parcels on the xxx sim contain xxx content?
i seriously doubt that. Since adult content stores and clubs will be forced to the adult continent will LL also enforce it the other way around? _____________________
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Dana Hickman
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03-24-2009 20:59
Will non-adult PG parcels be moved OUT of the adult continent? I would certainly hope so. Reason I say that is that the whole purpose of the adult continent is so people browsing PG stuff on the mainland wont stumble onto it by accident. How would it not be self-defeating if they allowed PG public places in the place they exiled the naughty stuff to so they can keep it from being viewed by PG visitors? Allowing the PG areas there would just recreate the same problem that they're trying solve now, would it not? I'm sure there won't be a requirement for having extreme content, but having strict non-mature content areas does pose a bit of a problem. |
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Nina Stepford
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03-24-2009 21:06
there wont be a way to flag parcels 'pg' on the xxx continent. you cannot flag parcels like that full stop. they are set at the sim level and can only be changed on a private island. i assumed the op is referring to the parcel content (pg poseballs, art, etc) rather than the sim rating.
with that in mind i cannot imagine ll saying 'its not dirty enough' and kicking you back to pg or mature. _____________________
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Bree Giffen
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03-24-2009 21:39
I guess I do mean content. But my thinking is that if they do allow PG content parcels on the adult continent but don't allow adult parcels on the main continents you end up having a semi-permeable barrier which would lead to the adult continent becoming much larger than it should be. Like filling two containers and having one filled with just pg items and one with both pg and adult items. And eventually you will end up with a pg continent and a pg/adult continent which defeats the whole purpose.
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Zii Minotaur
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03-24-2009 23:35
Why would you buy land on that continent if you weren't going to use it at some point for adult-themed content? Maybe if the land is cheaper... or maybe you won't put adult content on your land, but you want the 'atmosphere' of that type of thing on the land around you. Or maybe to block out anybody who will not/can not go to the continent (non-verifieds).
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Pserendipity Daniels
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03-25-2009 01:02
Why would you buy land on that continent if you weren't going to use it at some point for adult-themed content? Maybe if the land is cheaper... or maybe you won't put adult content on your land, but you want the 'atmosphere' of that type of thing on the land around you. Or maybe to block out anybody who will not/can not go to the continent (non-verifieds). Pep (Doesn't want kids on his lawn) _____________________
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Zii Minotaur
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03-25-2009 04:32
Obviously. I think I was trying to say that LL should know that these circumstances will occur, so why would they kick out anybody who isn't going to set up an obviously adult-themed establishment?
People who don't want to see sex/etc are going to avoid the continent anyway, so land owners should keep it in mind - and not open up some entirely innocent store or hangout in the middle of sexytown. ![]() |
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Scott Savira
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03-25-2009 04:49
I'm going to AR places for not having required boobies.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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03-25-2009 05:16
If any of this is true, the continent will be abandoned within a couple months. Really, if the place doesn't strike up a balance between the naughtiest of naughties and good clean fun, people will get fapped out and move on. (=_=)
Also, that said, who's to say the speculators won't jack up the prices to L$50,000/M as it's going to be the Next Big Thing®©™ in land ownership. (=_=) Or, even better. Whos' to say some radical right wing moralist group won't buy up ALL the land and make a giant PG theme park out if it? Or, even more subtle, get parcels in a quarter of each sim and turn them into moral rehabilitation infohubs? (>_< ![]() _____________________
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Blot Brickworks
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03-25-2009 05:18
I'm going to AR places for not having required boobies. Nice one,and whilst we are at it,maybe a boob rating like they have stars for hotels. Like this................ ![]() _____________________
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Qie Niangao
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03-25-2009 05:21
I guess I do mean content. But my thinking is that if they do allow PG content parcels on the adult continent but don't allow adult parcels on the main continents you end up having a semi-permeable barrier which would lead to the adult continent becoming much larger than it should be. Like filling two containers and having one filled with just pg items and one with both pg and adult items. And eventually you will end up with a pg continent and a pg/adult continent which defeats the whole purpose. It probably would be good for the viewer to offer Adult-verified residents an option to see only non-Adult content when selected, much as we can choose whether or not we get Mature search results. (Especially if just being PIOF gets automatic access, as seems the plan.) But the financial thing could be real. There are lots of reasons why someone without Adult content will want an Adult-only location--not least of which is a respite from teens (and their, uh, "nannies" ). And with the relatively low hurdles for residents to verify as adults in this new scheme, there will be very, very few who don't (whether they mean to or not). And that could leave a lot of empty Mainland sims, not generating enough tier revenue to keep the server fans spinning. |
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JeanGenie Jewell
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03-25-2009 05:30
/me confused...i will have to leave my PG area land if i want to have fun with my partner?oO
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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03-25-2009 05:34
/me confused...i will have to leave my PG area land if i want to have fun with my partner?oO (PG) is G... No nudity, swearing, or sexuality public or private. It can all be ARed on sight. (^_^) (Mature) Nudity, swearing, and private sex is allowed. (^_^) (Adult) "Chicka-chicka-bow-wow!" =^-^= _____________________
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Puppet Shepherd
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03-25-2009 05:54
(Mature) Nudity, swearing, and private sex is allowed. (^_^) (Adult) "Chicka-chicka-bow-wow!" =^-^= So will it be a problem now if I wish to bark at the chickens on my home parcel when they cluck at me? I don't see why it would be a problem to have parcels with PG stuff on the adult continent - but if the whole continent will be restricted to adult-verified access, I don't know why anyone would want to locate their PG parcels there. They are limiting their visitors if they do that. It seems that some people will be forced to split their multi-use parcels across continents if they want large amounts people to continue to visit their PG-based places. That's rather unfortunate, esp. in the case of the person who owns the whole mainland mixed-use sim. _____________________
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Scott Savira
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Join date: 10 Aug 2008
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03-25-2009 07:07
Or, even better. Whos' to say some radical right wing moralist group won't buy up ALL the land and make a giant PG theme park out if it? Or, even more subtle, get parcels in a quarter of each sim and turn them into moral rehabilitation infohubs? (>_< ![]() ...then they're going to get AR'd by me for lacking boobies. ![]() |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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03-25-2009 07:40
...then they're going to get AR'd by me for lacking boobies. ![]() _____________________
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Ceera Murakami
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03-25-2009 07:57
Since adult content stores and clubs will be forced to the adult continent will LL also enforce it the other way around? I would imagine the new AO continent will be entirely "Mature" sims rated "Adult Access Only", with that rating locked and unchangable at both the sim and parcel levels. That would not prevent a land owner there from opening a children's clothing store that was a designated "Kid Safe Zone" on part of their land, while operating a photo gallery on some other part of that same parcel that includes some images that would require XXX access restrictions. Of course, they would be limiting their customer base for that kid's clothing store to people who have child avatars and who are also able to access the Adult Continent. But actually, a lot of kid avatars, possibly most of them, already meet that requirement. Many people who have kid avatars have made a point of doing adult verification, to deflect potential charges that the person playing the kid avatar might *really* be under-age. In a more concrete example, IF I were to move the entirety of what I have in my 17K M2 of land that I have now in a private sim to the Ursula continent, only 5 relatively small areas in that parcel would be areas where kid avatrs would be unwelcome - bedrooms with sex beds, and rooms specificly designed for "Adult activities". The rest could easily be tagged as PG content. But it is ALL part of my home, and to avoid complaints about what happens in those few small Adult areas, IF I were to move to Ursula, I'd move the entire 17K M2 worth of content. The whole area would still remain tagged as Mature, Adult Verification required, even though what was ON the majority of my land was pretty tame. I won't move there, as the Adult Continent can't offer the teraforming freedom that I have now, and I am unwilling to become a Premium member and buy Mainland anywhere at this time. But I can easily see where some people would. _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
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03-25-2009 08:47
I don't have an adult business on my land, and never have. The only adult-type content has always been in private residences, and 99% of the time, anyone who's there isn't using the poseballs anyway.
But I'm still thinking of relocating. Ursula will be the only place in SL where you truly have no restrictions on your imagination and creativity. That's worth something to me, and I bet it will be to others, too. I think land on Ursula will command the same sort of premium over Mature land that Mature now does over PG land. _____________________
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Phil Duvall
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03-25-2009 09:24
I don't have an adult business on my land, and never have. The only adult-type content has always been in private residences, and 99% of the time, anyone who's there isn't using the poseballs anyway. But I'm still thinking of relocating. Ursula will be the only place in SL where you truly have no restrictions on your imagination and creativity. That's worth something to me, and I bet it will be to others, too. I think land on Ursula will command the same sort of premium over Mature land that Mature now does over PG land. This is a very large point. Especially considering the possibility of the eventual merging of the teen grid and the main grid. Whether it is true or not, the Perception that the creation of the new adult continent is to prepare the way for that eventuality, is a big factor to consider in choosing where to buy land. Even among those who do not seek adult content, the freedom not to have to look over one's shoulder all the time in case a teen may be lurking nearby could make the adult continent the only viable option in terms of not only a personal freedom of expression but also a sense of freedom from liability. Having to sell and relocate is not a trivial exercise especially for those with large amounts of time and effort invested. There could possibly be a land rush to the adult continent just for those wishing to avoid the slightest possiblity of having to deal with other people's kids. Under these considerations watch for the adult continent to be the new 18+ Mainland. |
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Nimue Jewell
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03-25-2009 09:35
I don't have an adult business on my land, and never have. The only adult-type content has always been in private residences, and 99% of the time, anyone who's there isn't using the poseballs anyway. But I'm still thinking of relocating. Ursula will be the only place in SL where you truly have no restrictions on your imagination and creativity. That's worth something to me, and I bet it will be to others, too. I think land on Ursula will command the same sort of premium over Mature land that Mature now does over PG land. Lindal, I think a lot of people will feel this way. I really hope the the Lindens are hearing this (I haven't been following the thread lately) because what I have read suggests they don't imagine anyone who doesn't *have* to move choosing to do so. _____________________
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