Greenlife viewer - Security question
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Love Hastings
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08-12-2009 12:15
From: Viktoria Dovgal The normal viewer attaches a cluster of unbaked clothing textures to your avatar. If for some reason your own viewer fails to get a baked version of your avatar up to the server, other viewers can use those to generate a local version.
With the protection turned on, the unbaked textures are replaced by a substitute, others can only see what your avatar looks like if your bake succeeds. The viewer ID thing works by looking at what substitute image was used.
Since the scheme is simple and completely voluntary, it's also easy to fake. It's great for "oh neat, you're running that too!" and totally useless as proof that someone is using a particular client. Thanks!
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Sony Swords
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08-12-2009 13:23
From: Darien Caldwell Then there is no point to this thread.  if you don't trust the creators of emerald viewer, use the ones from LL. Case closed. Oh yes there is! Collecting public opinions is always worth the time. I see you are making it pretty easy  Case closed LOL
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Kazimir MacMoragh
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08-12-2009 14:41
OK, here's a public opinion. Going back to the original post that started this whole thing... From: Sony Swords Typical question: There could be another package or any single file inside this bundle which is not listed and because it's "closed source" nobody really knows what is inside.  Whats your opinion? .. My opinion is that the three packages that you pointed out that come with Greenlife also come with the Linden Labs viewer as well, so unless you can provide actual evidence that they are different somehow, then any "opinions" provided in this thread about the relative security of Greenlife are based on inacurate tinfoil-hat speculation, making those opinions utterly worthless. I think that your basic premise is correct, and it's something that people should remember, which is that when you install something and run it on your computer, you are trusting that the creators of that something haven't coded it to do anything malicious. But that is true of *any* alternalte SL viewer; making Greenlife the subject of this post without a scrap of evidence to indicate it has any malicious code in it is just nonsense and fear-mongering.
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Sony Swords
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08-12-2009 14:49
From: Kazimir MacMoragh OK, here's a public opinion. Going back to the original post that started this whole thing...
My opinion is that the three packages that you pointed out that come with Greenlife also come with the Linden Labs viewer as well, so unless you can provide actual evidence that they are different somehow, then any "opinions" provided in this thread about the relative security of Greenlife are based on inacurate tinfoil-hat speculation, making those opinions utterly worthless.
I think that your basic premise is correct, and it's something that people should remember, which is that when you install something and run it on your computer, you are trusting that the creators of that something haven't coded it to do anything malicious. But that is true of *any* alternalte SL viewer; making Greenlife the subject of this post without a scrap of evidence to indicate it has any malicious code in it is just nonsense and fear-mongering. good one!
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Shambolic Walkenberg
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08-12-2009 14:57
On the subject of the Emerald viewer, why is it on my old P4 3G with a 64M ATI 9000 pro it ran quite well, smoother than the standard viewer.. Yet on my new build, AMD 64 3400, Nvidia 8600GS, it is painfully slow and jerky?
This is the 1.22 release, the 1.23 simply crashes at any attempt to run it.
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Sony Swords
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08-12-2009 15:21
From: Shambolic Walkenberg On the subject of the Emerald viewer, why is it on my old P4 3G with a 64M ATI 9000 pro it ran quite well, smoother than the standard viewer.. Yet on my new build, AMD 64 3400, Nvidia 8600GS, it is painfully slow and jerky?
This is the 1.22 release, the 1.23 simply crashes at any attempt to run it. There are different release versions under 1.23 in case of Greenlife, such as GreenLifeSetup_1-23-4-206-cryo GreenLifeSetup_1-23-4-206-lgg GreenLifeSetup_1-23-4-288 (fixed) Latest version release bundle with two setup files 1. GreenLifeSetup_1-23-4-439 (22.292.797 Bytes) 2. GreenLife_Propriatary_YOU_NEED_THIS_FOR_SPEED_v7 (2.557.792 Bytes) In case of Windows XP with AMD Athlon 64 X2 and Nvidia 8600GTS Greenlife is faster than the standard LL viewer without any crash on my system.
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Talarus Luan
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08-12-2009 15:36
From: Sony Swords Ok let us sort out everything... we may need a computer, could take a while BRB  I'm with Argent on this one: LOLWUT? 
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Sony Swords
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08-12-2009 15:46
From: Talarus Luan I'm with Argent on this one:
LOLWUT?
0/10 = lame
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Talarus Luan
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08-12-2009 16:30
From: Sony Swords 0/10 = lame Biased Troll is Biased. 
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Sony Swords
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08-12-2009 16:56
ll SetAwesome {TRUE}
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Talarus Luan
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08-12-2009 17:02
From: Sony Swords ll SetAwesome {TRUE} EPIC FAIL Error in line 1.
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Set Serpentine
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08-12-2009 21:08
theres no 'ifs' about it. From: Sony Swords ll SetAwesome {TRUE}
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Set Serpentine
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08-12-2009 21:09
going back to the texture issue, previous viewers always sent a skin out, even when you were clothed. 23 and emerald do not do this anymore. this is what i was on about.
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