And the pull out begins....
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Mickey James
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08-18-2007 21:11
Hey! I bet this means the end of SL!
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VooDoo Bamboo
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08-18-2007 21:13
From: Mickey James Hey! I bet this means the end of SL! It's ok... You will be the one left blowing dust off whatever it is you sell in SL. 
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Absinthe Paine
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08-18-2007 21:34
I have to laugh when I read some of this. What I get out of the LA Times article are that marketers are disappointed that they got no return out of the blind money they thew away on Second Life without doing any sort of research whatsoever on what Second Life is.
Oh, you expected that a blind investment without research was going to reap great riches? This is what you learned studying marketing in college?
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Usagi Musashi
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08-18-2007 21:43
From: Absinthe Paine I have to laugh when I read some of this. What I get out of the LA Times article are that marketers are disappointed that they got no return out of the blind money they thew away on Second Life without doing any sort of research whatsoever on what Second Life is.
Oh, you expected that a blind investment without research was going to reap great riches? This is what you learned studying marketing in college? Its those PR people tricking those companies in believing they realy could make money. Those that have been around SL could have told them it CAN be possible. But with all the shit going on in world these days, its no wonder those people lost money.
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Dnate Mars
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08-18-2007 21:48
Not every company in the RL is ready for SL. Some think that they can just throw up a sim for a few thousand and the press and money will roll in. Others have a better understanding of what SL is. Business will come, business will go, but in the end it is really just business as usual.
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VooDoo Bamboo
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08-18-2007 21:52
Well I am just making what I can and when it ends it ends. Its a free ride right now so might as well ride it out. But the end road is clear in my book.
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Dnate Mars
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08-18-2007 21:54
From: VooDoo Bamboo Well I am just making what I can and when it ends it ends. Its a free ride right now so might as well ride it out. But the end road is clear in my book. Still making money, guess it wasn't all about gambling after all...
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VooDoo Bamboo
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08-18-2007 21:55
From: Dnate Mars Still making money, guess it wasn't all about gambling after all... Let me spell it out for you... Guess you missed it... "Making what I can".
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08-18-2007 21:57
Who is bothered by the corporations leaving SL? Well, first of all, not all of the corporations are leaving, only the ones who were looking to make a quick buck. The ones who see SL as an evolving tool for international collaboration, like IBM, they are not leaving anytime soon.
I for one am relieved to see the likes of Best Buy and Coca Cola leaving SL. What possible value could they bring to SL? Did anyone learn anything from the fiasco that was the Internet Bubble of the late 90's?
SL is a fascinating, evolving learning experience for all involved. Instead of trying to make it stop evolving, instead of trying to hold onto it as if it were cast in stone, embrace it as the dynamic, vibrant, ever changing emergent experience that it is!
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VooDoo Bamboo
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08-18-2007 21:59
From: I for one am relieved to see the likes of Best Buy and Coca Cola leaving SL. What possible value could they bring to SL? [/QUOTE
Oh yes your right.... There is so much value in the sex items in SL. (Scratches head)
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08-18-2007 22:04
From: VooDoo Bamboo Let me spell it out for you... Guess you missed it...
"Making what I can". Let me spell it out to you, you are still making money in SL... As a side note, is it possible to make more than what you can?
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VooDoo Bamboo
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08-18-2007 22:05
Somehow your missing my point... But anyway besides that I think the corp pull out is a good thing anyway. Maybe the Lindens will make their return to customers then and thats a very big maybe.
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Raymond Figtree
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08-18-2007 22:10
Since corporations are only in SL to further their own agenda, I see the fact that they are pulling out as a good since for the long term.
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08-18-2007 22:11
Don`t try to talk to the Rah Rah people. They still believe this is 2003......
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08-18-2007 22:15
Like I said... I would just like to know when they get their Linden Labs checks in the mail each week for fallout control.
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08-18-2007 22:33
From: Usagi Musashi Its those PR people tricking those companies in believing they realy could make money. Those that have been around SL could have told them it CAN be possible. But with all the shit going on in world these days, its no wonder those people lost money. I don't think there's any trickery involved. I think some companies have managers who have the authority to spend the company money despite the fact that they couldn't have passed my sixth-grade consumer economics class.
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08-18-2007 23:08
From: Amity Slade I don't think there's any trickery involved. I think some companies have managers who have the authority to spend the company money despite the fact that they couldn't have passed my sixth-grade consumer economics class. Sounds like LLABS eco expert really 
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Svar Beckersted
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08-18-2007 23:43
For the small business owner in SL just how much money did you earn from all those big corporations that entered SL? I guess I thought people were earning their money from all the regular game players and not big corporations.
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Rebecca Proudhon
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08-18-2007 23:49
Good riddance When I began Sl it was happening adn the stores were bustling and only had around 350,000 residents. Growth happened too fast with the illusion of free accounts and then suddenly there was a "Corporate Presence" Since then the whole thing went downhill. But it can rezz.
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08-19-2007 00:07
From: Rebecca Proudhon Good riddance When I began Sl it was happening adn the stores were bustling and only had around 350,000 residents. Growth happened too fast with the illusion of free accounts and then suddenly there was a "Corporate Presence" Since then the whole thing went downhill. But it can rezz. 6/6/2006 you mean...............................The first step tp death on sl.
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08-19-2007 00:20
Well, first off, that first article title is misleading. When you read it, you'll see what they really mean is, "Playboy Island is empty of Playboy people, and nothing is happening there."
I don't know about Coke "pulling out," either - the complaint seems to be their Thirst contest results are long overdue.
I'd be just as glad if they left anyway. My attitude is mainly, don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out, corporations.
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08-19-2007 00:32
First of all I would like to say... Forbes sucks for having an advertising page at the start with a link that says 'skip this welcome screen' .... BS that's an advertising page. The LA times has an ad page with a link that says 'skip this ad'... Kudos.
But on topic... I think SL will survive without corporate advertisers or corporate islands. Why do I think so? Well because I've seen evidence that 'games' can survive without corporate sponsorship in the form of advertising. Let me try to think of an example. How about... every single 'game' that's been produced in the world since video games were first produced.
Hey let me try to think of some 'game' that manages to continue that doesnt have any kind of gambling in it.. Hmmm...
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Peggy Paperdoll
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08-19-2007 00:37
From: Ian Newt Who is bothered by the corporations leaving SL? Well, first of all, not all of the corporations are leaving, only the ones who were looking to make a quick buck. The ones who see SL as an evolving tool for international collaboration, like IBM, they are not leaving anytime soon. I got to ask...........what is IBM gaining here? IBM caters to big business. Where's the big business if the "likes of Best Buy, Coca Cola............et al" pull out? Sears left. SL, as it stands right now, is not a platform for business. It's a game.............but sold as some sort of workable medium to conduct real life business. That image was sold by Linden Labs to the businesses that made a move to become part of Second Life. Once it became known to those businesses that it wasn't what they were lead to belive, they left. I wouldn't count on IBM being here much longer........big businesses don't throw good money after bad for long. There is dissatisfaction in the flock. When the flock is leaving or pulling back then the handwriting on the wall becomes clear...........I believe we are at the beginning of a mini exudus. It'll grow quickly once some sort of competition opens (it doesn't even have to have all the stuff SL has..........just a better platform that is more stable). Any business who is paying attention will see it before most of us see it. They will leave (even IBM) if the money potential dries up. It a chain........we lessor ones pay the next ones up the chain who pay the next........all the way up ot the likes of IBM. IBM would cater to the likes of Coca Cola and Best Buy......but they are leaving. Don't be so smug. That smugness will, no doubt, be shoved somewhere that is very uncomfortable for you.
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08-19-2007 00:43
lol. Im surprised LL thought it would last. It was obvious it wouldnt go well from the beginning.
Success in RL does not equal success in SL, and vice versa.
Residents were fine without them, and we`ll be fine without them again. What is a bit scary is that LL wanted them in so much so who knows what will happen next but I highly doubt this is "the end of SL".. what`s with all the gloom and doom topics lately?
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