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Sling Trebuchet
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07-23-2008 12:32
From: Kitty Barnett A majority is always going to have to add/substract two numbers together to know what time an event is in their time zone so what you use as a reference really doesn't make any difference, PST/PDT is as good a choice as GMT.
Everyone is hopefully capable of adding or substracting two small numbers together, and those that lack that elementary skill you can just add a second timezone to the clock in Vista and use that to cheat. True that it's a simple math issue. However, GMT/UTC is much more accessible as a reference time. It is globally recognised. It is institutionalised. It's way easier no-brainer one-step to determine local v GMT than is local v SLT SLT is defined relative to GMT/UTC. Vista???? Vista??? BURN HER!!! SHE A WITCH!!!!
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Argos Hawks
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07-23-2008 13:12
I always remember that the am or pm for 12:00 matches the am or pm for 12:01. It's pretty easy to know which one is noon or midnight based on that.
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Gabriele Graves
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07-23-2008 18:11
Does this qualify as a Pep Peeve? hehe  BTW You have no problems with time until you live in everyone else's future like me - being GMT+12/13 sounds kinda cool at first but very, very irritating mostly.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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07-23-2008 18:35
At work we are often asked to reproduce a customer's hours. '
Having both AM and PM and noon and midnight in a column makes for a wide column. Space is scarce. People often want to save space by leaving out the period between the hour and the AM/PM/NOON/MIDNIGHT. If you use capitals for AM and PM, with no spaces, the times look like 2:00PM - 3:00AM. Put several of those together and it just looks like a blob. Sometimes they'll want to iniclude AM in one space and leave it out of another.
There's a simple way to conserve space, eliminate ambiguity, and keep the nuimbers and letters from forming a big block visually.
Use "a", "n", "p", and "m" following the number, with no space.
7:00a - 12:00n, 2:00p - 12:00m would mean 7 in the morning till noon, 2 in the afternoon til midnight.
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07-23-2008 20:19
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
7:00a - 12:00n, 2:00p - 12:00m would mean 7 in the morning till noon, 2 in the afternoon til midnight.
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07-23-2008 20:22
From: Oryx Tempel 0700-1200, 1400-2400 takes fewer characters and is immediately recognizable as well. I prefer 24 hour clock too and even 00:00 is distinct from 12:00 and logically comes before it also. Never really seen the 24:00 notation either.
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07-23-2008 21:46
From: Oryx Tempel 0700-1200, 1400-2400 takes fewer characters and is immediately recognizable as well. Sure, a 24 hour clock would be the way to go if one could just wave their hands and have people behave in a rational manner. That, however, is not the case. My suggestion concerns only replacing "am pm noon and midnight", and eliminating the space, so that they are all the same length and take up as little space as possible, not the numbering system. I don't people would adapt well to converting to 24 hour time. People like to stick with what they know, whether it makes sense or not. If one could just wave their hands and get people to behave rationally, ending racial, religious, nationalist and other collectivist bigotry would probably be better things to start with than the system used for designating the time of day.
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