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Pserendipity Daniels
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07-23-2008 05:30
I find it difficult enough to work out what the time is anywhere else in the world as it is, but I get even more confused when I receive invitations to parties etc in SL saying they start at 12am or 12 pm. So I would like to say sorry in advance to anybody who thinks I have snubbed them because I have been 12 hours late (or early!) because they haven't said midnight or noon. It wouldn't be too difficult to do it though, would it? Pep (Of course which day would midnight refer to - the one before or the one after?) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock
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ConductorX Nieuport
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07-23-2008 05:37
Good point Pep. I always make a point to include AM/PM and SLT in my notices. BTW: Thanks for attending the pool party at 4PM SLT.  "CX"
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Sassy Romano
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07-23-2008 05:42
From: Pserendipity Daniels I find it difficult enough to work out what the time is anywhere else in the world as it is, but I get even more confused when I receive invitations to parties etc in SL saying they start at 12am or 12 pm. So I would like to say sorry in advance to anybody who thinks I have snubbed them because I have been 12 hours late (or early!) because they haven't said midnight or noon. It wouldn't be too difficult to do it though, would it? Pep (Of course which day would midnight refer to - the one before or the one after?) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clockMeet me later, lets shop for some blonde hair for you 
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Tali Rosca
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07-23-2008 05:53
As a side note, the 24-hour notation uses the convention that 24:00 and 0:00 refers to the same point in time, but belonging to two different dates. While we're at it, please don't use the "two numbers divided by a slash" notation for dates. It's massively confusing, since you never know if it's the American notation (month/day) or the European (day/month). Please write the month with letters.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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07-23-2008 06:01
From: Sassy Romano Meet me later, lets shop for some blonde hair for you  Not just me. Better get enough wigs for the US Government if the Wikipedia article is anything to go by. Pep (What do YOU think 12pm means? Noon or midnight?)
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Kathy Morellet
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07-23-2008 06:16
12AM = midnight, 12PM = Noon, what's so hard about that?
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3Ring Binder
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07-23-2008 06:21
the real question, is it at 12am/12pm their time, or SL time?
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Amaranthim Talon
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07-23-2008 06:33
From: 3Ring Binder the real question, is it at 12am/12pm their time, or SL time? As long as it's 5 o'clock somewhere - had to look up schnorked..
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Pserendipity Daniels
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07-23-2008 06:33
From: Kathy Morellet 12AM = midnight, 12PM = Noon, what's so hard about that? So immediately after 11.59pm it becomes 12am , not 12 pm? Pep (That's illogical Jim)
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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07-23-2008 06:34
From: Pserendipity Daniels So immediately after 11.59pm it becomes 12am , not 12 pm? Pep (That's illogical Jim) Correct.
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07-23-2008 06:37
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Pserendipity Daniels
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07-23-2008 06:39
From: Wikipedia In the United States, noon is often called "12:00 p.m." and midnight "12:00 a.m.". With this convention, thinking of "12" as "0" makes the system completely logical. The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (Fourth Edition, 2000) has a similar usage note on this topic: "Strictly speaking, 12 a.m. denotes midnight, and 12 p.m. denotes noon, but there is sufficient confusion over these uses to make it advisable to use 12 noon and 12 midnight where clarity is required
Pep (I actually agree that 12pm should be midnight, but I am never sure that the party givers mean that)
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Lindal Kidd
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07-23-2008 06:43
From: Pserendipity Daniels So immediately after 11.59pm it becomes 12am , not 12 pm?
Pep (That's illogical Jim) No, it is quite logical. The morning has to start somewhere. At midnight, we click over into the next day, which begins at 12:00 am. But I think the 24 hour system is more logical still, and you can get rid of that ugly colon between hours and minutes. One of the few really laudable things invented by the military.
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Sassy Romano
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07-23-2008 06:43
just look at the little clock top right... 11am then by convention comes 12pm, it gets no harder and if it is then you're thinking about it too much 
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Zaphod Kotobide
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07-23-2008 06:46
Since 12PM means, literally, 12 hours after noon, this also works for midnight. Same for 12AM, 12 hours before noon. It's because of this ambiguity that the recommended references are 12 noon and 12 midnight. From: Pserendipity Daniels So immediately after 11.59pm it becomes 12am , not 12 pm? Pep (That's illogical Jim)
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Czari Zenovka
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07-23-2008 06:46
The thing that really bends my mind is when it's already way into the next day on the other side of the world.
(Ok, that came out a little Edith Bunker-ish)
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Pserendipity Daniels
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07-23-2008 06:48
From: Lindal Kidd No, it is quite logical. The morning has to start somewhere. At midnight, we click over into the next day, which begins at 12:00 am. I thought the next day began at 00:00:01 Pep (I am merely pointing out that OTHERS aren't consistent in their usage . . . )
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Sling Trebuchet
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07-23-2008 06:58
Make all times HHMM GMT
That's what GMT is for - a reference that can be used by people in any timezone.
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Amaranthim Talon
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07-23-2008 07:03
From: Pserendipity Daniels I thought the next day began at 00:00:01
Pep (I am merely pointing out that OTHERS aren't consistent in their usage . . . ) You are bored aren't you?
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3Ring Binder
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07-23-2008 07:06
From: Czari Zenovka The thing that really bends my mind is when it's already way into the next day on the other side of the world. (Ok, that came out a little Edith Bunker-ish) which is why in SL we should note events in SL time.
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07-23-2008 07:07
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Damien1 Thorne
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07-23-2008 07:07
From: Lindal Kidd No, it is quite logical. The morning has to start somewhere. The morning always starts "TO DAMN EARLY". 
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Damien1 Thorne
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07-23-2008 07:12
From: Pserendipity Daniels I thought the next day began at 00:00:01
Pep (I am merely pointing out that OTHERS aren't consistent in their usage . . . ) You're still hung up on the old 'when did the new millinium start 2000 or 2001 thing. Aren't you? 
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Pserendipity Daniels
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07-23-2008 07:14
From: Damien1 Thorne You're still hung up on the old 'when did the new millinium start 2000 or 2001 thing. Aren't you?  Guilty as charged . . . Pep (Am I *that* transparent?)
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Sassy Romano
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07-23-2008 07:18
From: Zaphod Kotobide Since 12PM means, literally, 12 hours after noon, this also works for midnight. That is why i said "by convention" stop thinking so hard and accept it 
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