Why turn off 'fly'?

Some activities are easier with no-fly enabled. For example, if you ever spar using the Combat: Samurai Island weapons, hitting that "F" key accidentally can ruin a match. Much easier to turn fly off.

why 24/7 banlines?

If I end up in a shopping area that is a no fly zone I leave right away. I don't appreciate being forced to look at their merchandise. I never thought about the increase in traffic aspect. If there is something there I need and can't get elsewhere I will use the TP while already flying trick so I wont have to walk around.

I don't RP, but I do like to walk around some of the RP builds because they can be amazing. It makes sense why they are no fly, depending on what the RP is. I think Gotham City is no fly, which makes sense since Batman and Robin couldn't fly on their own.

In the large stores I usually shop with camera controls. I find I get most irritated when I'm shopping for textures. I'll be clicking on a vendor and some idiot will fly up right in front of it and start clicking away.

Sorry to go off topic, but it's a great question. I really wish people would turn them off when they are not home. It just makes for ugly for the neighbors.

places that ban users for flying when no-fly is set, wont get my visit or anyone elses for that matter.

Exactly. And it's explained in the sims FAQ as to specifically why.



Which is perfectly fine. If you feel you have to violate the sim's rules "just because," then you're not welcome there.

Store at 28m, build platform at 728m... What's your draw distance..?

But I do leave fly on... simply because the store is 90m from one end to the other... It's quicker for all and sundry to have it on...

I dislike no-fly areas too, to be honest. I think it's because of the different affect point. I don't mind not being allowed to build on people's land, but banning fly feels like the landowner choosing what I can and can't do with my own body, which doesn't have the same feeling of fairness.

The fact that so many RP sims ban it outright just seems to be ridiculous. It's especially silly when they do it when you're playing a flying character and the sim owner actually gave you wings to wear!

Its still funny for superhero areas to be no-fly.

Poor Superman-

He has people calling Lois a guy in drag,

being suspicious of his super friends,

and cant even go "up, up and away" because its a no fly zone.

I also dislike stores with no fly. I really dislike large stores with no fly -and- a set landing point. I of course dislike large stores with a set landing point by themselves.

Nothing worse then finding a great store in search - tping there, and then having to find the place since the mall owners decided they wanted to drive traffic to one entry point.

I predict... In the future, we will hate areas that don't allow us to walk through walls...

Yep! I hit a no-fly mall/store and I immediately port out without buying. I am NOT going to waste time walking from store to store when I can shop quicker elsewhere.

you know what, with the ability to override this just by enabling debugging options in the SL viewer, i certainly do not think its a "rule" by any means, whether its private or mainland.
"violating" the rule as you put it, would be by creating some type of hack if one were not able to simply enable this function in the debug options (client > enable admin options), then i could see this as "violating" the rule.
if the client had an override function in the debug option to allow you to get past a ban line, would that too be considered a "violation" of the rule ?
a vast majority of users on SL know this and use it accordingly, not just for that feature alone, but for the ability to see media settings as well.

and for that reason, that land or sim wont get my visit or anyone elses that i know.
if linden labs did not want you to do it, they wouldnt have it in there to begin with, and to top it all off, the recently departed torley even posted a you tube video on the how to do to do this as well.

it would be sort of silly if this feature wasnt allowed.

She's not talking about LL rules. She's talking about the sim's rules. If you cannot respect that sim community's rules then you have no business being there and it's just as well that you and others like you that cannot comport yourselves to standards of conduct requested by that sim's community won't even bother visiting. It is no different than respecting the rules of conduct for any roleplaying sim.

You can get past locked doors by sitting on anything past the locked door but that doesn't mean you should do it. You can use the disable camera constraints to spy on people who are trying to have some amount of privacy but that hardly makes it decent or right. There are lots of things that LL allows one to do but that doesn't mean that one should do them and it sure as hell doesn't give it some kind of official stamp of approval from LL.

My land is no-fly. I rarely fly anywhere, and if I do I put on my jetpack, crash helmet and safety suit. I'm welcoming to people, I'm happy for people to wander round my house. I just don't want people flying about - they remind me of flying ants.

I never thought of that! I bet you're right, at least in some cases. Of course if I go to a mall or big store with fly off I typically teleport out, looking for someplace more navigable, so the traffic thing cancels out.

What I REALLY hate is when my tenants shut fly off on their parcels so I can't even fly over my own island!

I find turning fly off stops the campers from being able to hover in the sky where shooters and the ground critters can't get them
Beside kangaroos can't fly, unless they are roboroos wearing jetpacks anyway
I personally hate it when I have to fly or jump to get up to higher levels because there are no ramps my R5D5 can drive up or my other AV's can walk up.

I've experienced this, but tried to do it deliberately a couple of times and failed after multiple tp while flying attempts.

Maybe I missed something about this, but Ctrl - Alt - V will always override the no fly setting, so why worry about it.

Plus if you are already flying then the no fly setting has no effect until you land anyway, so you can always carry on flying over land with the setting on.

Woo-hoo I just did a friendly fly-by over a Gor sim! Ya learn something new every day....

I do this sometimes too..

A friendly word of warning, though: If the owner has turned off fly, they probably did it for a reason. Like I said above, I turn it off in my indoor club to prevent newbies from zipping around, pushing people around and such. If a land owner catches you going against their rules, they may not be happy. For my place, I let it slide if somebody who knows how to fly uses it to get in & out of the place and don't let it slide nearly as much if they don't know how to fly but override my settings anyway. Not everybody will be as nice.. YMMV.

No fly zones can be oh-so-exploitable too. (^_^)

I was in a playground/camp region a few days ago with a ton of other kids and lolis and someone had randomly flown in to see who the green dots were. He tried to harass us for a little while, but quickly found that we could stand on our own. I'm sure someone sent an AR anyway, but not me. (^_^)

He tried to leave but quickly found that only jumping was possible and the high walls around the place offered no way out..... Now, imagine, he is surrounded by a dozen of us all saying things like "You are under our power." and "There is no escape." and he hasn't quite understood what Teleporting was yet. (=_=)

I'm sure he'll think twice about jumping into places and acting up like that for a while. (^_^)y

/me is a nasty little crud. (^_^)y

on the Client menu turn on 'View Admin Options'

now you can allways fly, no matter what people set there land to.

i never understood why they would let you turn off flying when it so simple to ignore it and fly anyway.

View Admin Options is a kind of dodgy function though.

Basically, it activates a partial version of the "god mode hack" which makes the client treat you as a Linden even though you are not. (In beta test clients, the full hack is available as Client -> Hacked Godmode.)

I suspect that the only reason it is in the client at all is because, back when it wasn't, people were selling a libsecondlife proxy which did applied the hack for you. The Lindens were "forced" to put it into the client because the only alternative was to have it available anyway but to have a hacker somewhere making money from it.