Is LL auctioning so many sims in a desperate attempt to cash before the collapse?

Or maybe they see things that you don't. They may know things that you don't understand. Or maybe they just don't see the world falling apart because some reporter says so.

Or maybe they just see what they want and think the world lives in a version of Disney Land where we all sing its a small world after all.

User churn figures massively into online world 'economics'.

What you are looking at is growth - if the numbers stay the same it just means as many people are starting new, as leaving. The 'stable' population which sticks around at all is a mere fraction of the 'churning' stats.

In the winter, there are generally more people starting new, hence the booms.

Percentagewise we'll NEVER see a boom like winter 06/07 ever again. A factor of ten increase, roughly in number of registered users (whatever that means) or more importantly, a rough factor of ten increase in the number of concurrent users.

I can see Second Life going from 50,000 concurrency to 100,000 concurrency on a timescale of a year or two (maaaybe, seems optimistic)... but no way is it going to grow from 50k concurrency to 500k concurrency. That's the 'factor of ten' boom we had last year, percentagewise.

You may be right... Only time will tell I guess.

The difference with a lot of what I say in forums is that it's generally falsifiable on realistic timescales.

Say I'm wrong, we'll know by January.

The same can be said of the naysayers. Maybe it is not as bad as they think it is.

But, time will tell.

That is a good argument but I am about to introduce the most creative city in New Zealand to the world via SL.

I know more artists, DJ's, emcees, beat boxers, poets, composers and creative individuals than i have time to list.

My mentor is one of the most respected composers in NZ (Jack Body) and I am a technical assistant at the New Zealand School of Music (NZSM).

As long as creativity exists so will SL!

Watch this space!!!!!!

I am ALL FOR competition. If they aren't better they will force LL to do a beter job, either way we win.

I can tell you this if there were competition you wouldn't even see the door hit my ass on the way out. What's warpPos? I'm out of here.

Good post Desmond, There is not a whole lot I can tell you. I can only tell you what I DO know. And what I do know is Linedn Labs has the very worst customer service I have ever seen and I know for a fact THEY DON'T CARE. And they don't care about you, only themselves.

Competition would be a good thing.

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Yep.

I am sure I'm one of those that VooDoo is talking about, but I've never once said "all is well." SL has a lot of technical problems that should have been solved long ago, poor customer service, sometimes baffling policy decisions and communication with users that is inconsistent at best.

But I don't believe that it is on the verge of imminent collapse. And because I'm not about to pick up my "Repent! The end is nigh!" sign, apparently I am "blind" and think everything is fine.

LOL

Thanks.

Like I said Mickey your right to a point... People claim SL is going down everyday so yeah I think we all kinda ignore it after a while but come on you must admit, there have been alot of real issues as of late that are rather major. SL right now is in trouble to a point. Will it go 100% under? Most likely not but its not doing it any good either.

Actually it might do it a lot of good.

All the negative press right now and knowing there must be some competition on the horizon could be the kick in the ass LL needs. If not, then they deserve to implode, sad though it may be.

The only insight I gained from this alleged piece of journalism is the guy talking hates Second Life.. If you are looking "insight" in to this guys mind. This is what he said about
Second Life back in january



There was not one shred of journalistic ethic to that piece and as slanted as could be.

But of course if you heard it on the net it must be true.

Before you shrug me off as some Linden butt kisser. I assure you Second Life has problems but this guy never touched on any of them. The fact a handful of a users compared to the over user base invested their money unwisely does not mean it is all coming down in a big crash.

Second Life will not go out with a bang, but a whimper. As the users start trailing off because they do not want to put up with the problems and a company who does not listen to it's customers.

For the mean time until that happens. The shops are still open. People are shopping and life goes on.

Rox

Chilly, you're well on your way to becoming the next Pr***** N***

Constructive criticism and even anger are one thing, but you're turning these forums into a personal complaint fest, and you may soon become the only forum poster ever that I have put on ignore.

Gambling is over, SL will not be destroyed by it, the Feds would not have been fooled by attempts to do an end run around them, that's it, get a grip. Please.

Sheesh.

Can someone please upload thevedio to youtube. I can`t see if from the site.

People posting that the end is near is pretty much business as usual in any MMO. Complaints about customer service are the norm. People screaming that "the man" doesn't listen to the little people- they're perfectly normal too.

I was sick of it in WoW and I'm getting very tired of it in SL.

The end is not near. Populations are stable to increasing. New features are being rolled out and there are clear indications that the company is still plugging away merrily.

Linden Lab will not fall in an afternoon. It will not fail in a week. Not even a month. When the end is nearing you will know it- not because of the people screaming about the end on it's way- but because of a lack of people screaming about anything. When features are stalled or shelved forever, when the forums and fan bases are stagnant and decreasing, long after the naysayers have folded up their sandwich boards and headed home... when the *only* thing that happens is minor bug fixes and LL itself starts pulling back from other corporate commitments (not vice versa)- that's when it's time to look internally and see if SL is bleeding from an artery.

Yes, customer service is not as high as it could be in an imaginary world. But it's not great anywhere. Some kid smacking bubble gum in the mall isn't kissing your butt and falling all over themselves to make a mistaken purchase better. The cops are not the true source of pure morality, incorruptible and perfect. Hell, anywhere you go with complaints on your lips is rarely going to give you the exact solutions you want. That's life. It's not fair. It's not right. It's not happy. It is what it is and you either accept reality and deal with surly customer reps everywhere who want nothing more than to see the door close behind you or you throw temper tantrums in the lobby until you feel your righteous anger has been satisfied and go home and suck a lemon.

Yes there are bugs and flawed logic and unfair things in the software. Every piece of software has them. If you put as much time into another program as you did into SL, you'd see the flaws in them as well. Virtually nothing in life will stand up to such close scrutiny and come away perfect. Expecting perfection is just setting yourself up for a disappointment. Expecting realistic situations- shades of gray, levels of flaw that are acceptable will get you through life much more easily.

Ease off the screaming about the sky falling. Even if corporate decided to close up tonight, it would still take months to finish loose ends and commitments. Unless a company goes under by law enforcement or financial difficulties- the end is always dragged out for as long as humanly possible. SL isn't in danger of being shut down for legal reasons (thank you gambling ban.) and it's *finally* financially solvent after many years of turning a net loss.... so why in the name of Tinks green panties does anyone think they're on the verge of collapse? Because a few corporations pulled out? Even if all corporations pulled out tomorrow, SL could still chase solvency for a year or more on loans or personal funds or by making strategic cuts in personnel.

Dissatisfaction causes slow and lingering deaths in companies. Deaths that stretch out over years as company loyalty slowly (oh so slowly) dies out. No one has anything to worry about for a year at least- and probably 2 even if things really *do* start going badly. They may not be comfortable years, but everyone has the choice to stay or go.

That video is pretty silly. There are major problems with Sl, but this person in the video, has little ability to see the future. He's pitching World of Warcraft.

The more I think about it the more I think it is residents themselves who have caused the problems and LL never should have gone to the free accounts. They should have let it grow more gradually.

If residents kill the goose that laid the golden egg then what?

I am now certain you are a genius!

coco

Awww!

I'm flattered

But if I truly was a genius, I would have taken all the effort I put into Second Life and opened a deli or something in my spare time instead.

More financially stable, actually tasty, and less chance of getting hit by a watermelon cannon.

Errr...how many cities ARE there in NZ?

(Sorry couldnt resist that one mate, Im dual nat and in the UK atm but have my NZ home in Russell, which as you know was once the capital...1 church 1 school 2 pubs)

Hmm the guy has been saying "The end is nigh" for Second Life for over a year.

People have been saying 'The End is Nigh' ever since I joined. So we've had the gambling ban, the Ginko crash and corporate flght all in rapid succession. When I look around the grid things seem to be humming along nicely. The only things I have to gripe about are the ad farms (because they're eyesores and blatant land extortion) and Business-In-A-Box reseller emporiums (beacuse they betray the shop-owner's lack of creative imagination).

Yes, SL, like all other things will end one day. Not for the near-term future. My one wish is that if and when LL ever do decide close the doors of SL that they give the content creators the data for their creations so that they might be able to port their work into another virtual world.

I hope SL is not on the slide. There are bound to be ups and downs along the way of any venture like SL. The US economy looks like it might be on the edge and that could affect SL I suppose.

Hum that thing is trying to say.................I have no idea what I am saying.
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