Ugly Land for Sale Signs?

Okay, I have no problem with "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" or "one av's trash, another av's treasure".

But what do you think, is this just an awfully ugly way to advertise land for sale?

the sign that isn't grounded is in violation, AR it. And I can't tell from here how big the other signs are, if they are bigger than 8m they are also in violation.

the sign that isn't grounded is in violation, AR it. And I can't tell from here how big the other signs are, if they are bigger than 8m they are also in violation. Oh wait...I can see by the buildings beside them that yes, they are most likely in violation as well.

Edit: I would AR that as harrassment, it looks pretty much like they are trying to get the neighbors to buy them off. How much is the land?

Right: that stuff was supposed to be against the new advertising policy, but one of my parcels is across the sim border from one much like that; ARs had no effect.

That's not meant to discourage anyone else from trying. YMMV, and I certainly hope it does. I hope I've been singled out to be ignored by G-Team, because otherwise there would be others just as disgusted and frustrated as I've become.

I don't know the owner or wish them any ill will, but something about this place just bugged me. Also it's not near anything I own, I just happened to be passing by. That plot is 8000+ sqm, so the signs are certainly more than 8m. I don't remember the exact size or price, but it's priced at L$8.5 per sqm, so the price is not out of line with the current market.

I've found that if you encourage other people to AR a violation the violation disappears faster.

AR it. It is definitely in breach of the new rules. Also get someone else to AR it too - it seems to help when there's more than one.

There was a full glow ad near me that I AR'd twice as 'parcel' abuse, and nothing was done. Then I AR'd it as harassment and it went away very quickly.

So if the land wasn't for sale, but there was a sign stating that it was artistic commentary on the current world financial situation and housing bubble. Would it still be ARable? If so, what makes it different than any huge black castle eyesores that dot the mainland?

1) The land is for sale?
2) It's an eyesore sign, not an eyesore castle?
3) The rules say nothing about castles, but instead clamp down on advertising?
4) Intent?

I don't think the two situations are remotely equivalent, except in some inexplicably gross and general way.

Do the huge black castles have a history of being used as an extortion tool? I know some of them have dungeons for torture but that's a different kettle of fish.

If it is a "work of art" what does it matter how it has been used in the past? Is the only thing making it wrong that the land is for sale?

An eyesore is an eyesore.

Yes the land being for sale is the main crime, although the work of art trick was tried before and failed.



This is eye of the beholder stuff. Basically it's a "Don't take the piss" policy they operate on eyesores.

1) I have no clue. But if it isn't; if these prims were on a plot that was not for sale and had no intention of being sold, would they be safe? If not, why not.

2) An eyesore prim is an eyesore prim. What if the castle was built from these signs?

3) Is a work of art advertising?

4) How do you read someone else's mind?

Then you support censorship of "art" you don't like?

While I'm sure the mainland is getting better, don't think for a moment that uncovenanted land is going to be anything close to a private estate, unless you and all your friends own the entire area.

I've seen 'art builds' that would make those who like natural terrain + homes fall over and faint even faster than those signs could.

No I support censorship of art that was being used to cover up ad farms. A certain well known ad farmer tried to reinvent himself as an artist after the original ad farm ban but Linden lab weren't fooled and nor was anyone else.

As I said Chris, it's eye of the beholder stuff regarding builds and art in general. If it's deemed to be griefing or harassment it will be removed. For sale signs have a history of being used in malicious ways.

Oh, sure. Burning Life, for example, was chock full of things that would make inconvenient neighbors. But really, this isn't about ugly for ugly's sake. It's about how much coercion a landowner is allowed to exercise over neighbors to get them to buy his crappy pixel property.

and I think LL themselves said that they would look at things and pretty much can tell expression from extortion. Not in those words exactly but yeh

We don't wanna witch hunt everyone who has a build we don't agree with, it's our world and our imagination...but if it looks like a bananna and smells like a bananna then it probably is a bananna.

When did they ban banana's?

The example above is horrible, but I don't even like the standard red and white for sale signs you see everywhere. They are still so ubiquitous you'd think they were part of your library folder. Signs don't have to be so garish.

When I sold my land I erected a scupltie stone about a meter in height with a stone texture that looks like it has "For Sale" lightly stenciled on one side. The land sold right away.



Of course I wasn't trying to extort anyone.

In this case, it was. If it wasn't for sale, would it still be safe? I suppose that it would have to be determined by the rest of the parameters of the situation, since harassing builds have always been against the ToS.



It would be an interesting sight, to be sure. Whether it was in violation is still dependent on the entirety of the situation, not any one aspect.



Could be. Can advertising be a work of art? Could be, too. Point? If it is deemed as advertising, and violates the rules, it's subject to removal and/or the creator/owner subject to disciplinary action.



Many times, you don't have to; they up and tell you what they are doing and why right to your face. Other times, the actions are so blatantly harassing they don't need to say a word.

Now that is a cute idea, was the puppy included in the sale?

I thought that was Weston...

Oooh, if that's Weston, he's a cutiepie!

/me wags tail.