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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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12-01-2008 04:27
I live in Watchman sim near many sims of protected water. Mostly those water regions have been empty but since the middle of last month they have been gaining some wildlife under there and some wrecks. I went to inspect and they are created by the Moles that did Bay City and Nautilus. It is not an isolated sim either, I found quite a few more in the area.
My point with the thread is that it looks like LL is quietly sprucing up parts of the mainland owned by them. Yay!!
Has there been any other unannouced additions or improvements like this that anyone has noticed?
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Raudf Fox
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12-01-2008 04:34
I haven't noticed anything in my home sim, but then it's rather landlocked and no road that I know of.
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Puppet Shepherd
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12-01-2008 04:45
I haven't noticed anything yet, but I am sooo happy to hear that progress is being made! With all that's been going wrong, it's nice to know that something is going right. 
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Ralektra Breda
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Join date: 7 Apr 2008
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12-01-2008 08:56
I was out riding the other day and came across a part of the highway that was beautifully paved in cobblestones, with gorgeous old bridges. I don't know if it is new but it is really pretty (can't remember where I was tho lol)
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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12-01-2008 10:00
From: Gabriele Graves Has there been any other unannouced additions or improvements like this that anyone has noticed? Rivulet is getting the Atoll Pointe Lighthouse (It looks to be mostly done) while Degrande is "something coming soon" -- but check the four water sims to the east of Degrande for what appears to be the most extensive mole-made water area yet, including treasure chests and other goodies. There are six or so new water sims, too, north of Bay City. These are called the "Gulf of Lauren." Mostly sparse, but still some nice details to 'em. Some of the roads through the Satori continent are being worked on as well, though I've not yet travelled them. I have also heard that they're heavy into testing a new train system an working on yet more water in some of the "sekrit" spots on the grid.
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Gabriele Graves
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Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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12-01-2008 12:44
Thanks for the replies so far  It is really nice to see some effort being expended on areas of the mainland that are not as new as Bay City and Nautilus. i hope they keep it up. Mari, it is good to hear that the trains might be coming back, they are something that are much missed I think. If anyone comes across anything made by Moles or that has been revitalised by LL for the mainland which has not been announced, report it here and whereabouts you found it. thx 
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Tiziana Catteneo
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Join date: 19 Feb 2007
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12-01-2008 13:34
Moles are too busy to build another useless landbarons $$$ double prims for sale area, It's months they have to complete the bay city Hau Koda infohub.
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Cristalle Karami
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Join date: 4 Dec 2006
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12-01-2008 13:43
From: Tiziana Catteneo Moles are too busy to build another useless landbarons $$$ double prims for sale area, It's months they have to complete the bay city Hau Koda infohub. That's what I'm afraid of... that it means that they are building another 20-sim set of double prim land for sale when the rest of the mainland is still screwed up.
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Gabriele Graves
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12-01-2008 14:08
From: Cristalle Karami That's what I'm afraid of... that it means that they are building another 20-sim set of double prim land for sale when some of the mainland is still screwed up. There fixed that for you. No screwed up mainland where I live.
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Marianne McCann
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Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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12-01-2008 14:34
From: Tiziana Catteneo It's months they have to complete the bay city Hau Koda infohub. ...which is still on hold as is the rest of the Mega Hub project.
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Cristalle Karami
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Join date: 4 Dec 2006
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12-01-2008 15:28
I overstated the problem, yes - there is some screwed up mainland, but not all. And even though that is not the moles' problem, I think the moles could be part of the solution - if LL would just use reclaimed space and put down artwork, green spaces or "historical places" to beautify the land, it would go a long way to unifying the mainland and beautifying it as well.
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Gabriele Graves
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Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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12-01-2008 15:32
From: Cristalle Karami I overstated the problem, yes - there is some screwed up mainland, but not all. And even though that is not the moles' problem, I think the moles could be part of the solution - if LL would just use reclaimed space and put down artwork, green spaces or "historical places" to beautify the land, it would go a long way to unifying the mainland and beautifying it as well. Ummm how can I say this without offending? They are doing something, did you read the OP at all? Since the middle of November all sorts of goodies are appearing under the water areas near where I live. I cannot beleive I just got lucky and was singled out for some cool treatment to support my boating perchant, so there must be other efforts going on elsewhere going unsung. Hence my thread.
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Cristalle Karami
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Join date: 4 Dec 2006
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12-01-2008 15:35
From: Gabriele Graves Ummm how can I say this without offending? They are doing something, did you read the OP at all? Since the middle of November all sorts of goodies are appearing under the water areas near where I live. I cannot beleive I just got lucky and was singled out for some cool treatment to support my boating perchant, so there must be other efforts going on elsewhere going unsung. Hence my thread. My cynicism is showing, that's all. I don't believe anyone "gets lucky" like that unless LL is building another Nautilus. I won't believe it until I read a blog post that says simple beautification is exactly that.
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Gabriele Graves
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Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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12-01-2008 15:42
From: Cristalle Karami My cynicism is showing, that's all. I don't believe anyone "gets lucky" like that unless LL is building another Nautilus. I won't believe it until I read a blog post that says simple beautification is exactly that. I suppose it is conceivable they are expanding the continent further south of watchman and that this stuff is a prelude, that I can grant you. Though it seems strange not to do this as finishing off at the end rather than before the new parts appear. I understand your cynicism but to be honest if they expand further south of watchman with more water, or even more land then I don't see it as a bad thing necessarily. I would rather the mainland expand and have many more contiguous areas for exploration than many, many more disconnected islands but that is just me.
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Sindy Tsure
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Join date: 18 Sep 2006
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12-01-2008 15:45
From: Gabriele Graves Busy Moles... I had a mole on my back but the doctor said it was ok..
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Bella Posaner
Just say it how it is FFS
Join date: 8 May 2008
Posts: 615
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12-01-2008 15:48
If there's one thing the mainland needs it certainly is "sprucing" up!
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Pie Psaltery
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Join date: 13 Jan 2004
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12-01-2008 17:09
Its always nice to see improvement when there's improvement to be seen. I'm glad the OP is getting to see some. But I hope those moles have high-powered energy drinks; there's an awful lot of ugly mainland out there. Aren't the moles just resident volunteers? So it's not actually LL that's doing anything pretty or who should be thanked, it's your fellow residents doing the nice things for SL that LL doesn't think are important enough to pay someone to do. Or am I wrong? From the original blog post, it makes it seem as tho workers of the LPWD would be 'contracted' but there was no response to a couple of ppl asking if the moles would be volunteers or paid. Anyone know? Ahhh... cynicism 
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Gabriele Graves
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Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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12-01-2008 17:15
From: Pie Psaltery Its always nice to see improvement when there's improvement to be seen. I'm glad the OP is getting to see some. But I hope those moles have high-powered energy drinks; there's an awful lot of ugly mainland out there. Aren't the moles just resident volunteers? So it's not actually LL that's doing anything pretty or who should be thanked, it's your fellow residents doing the nice things for SL that LL doesn't think are important enough to pay someone to do. Or am I wrong? From the original blog post, it makes it seem as tho workers of the LPWD would be 'contracted' but there was no response to a couple of ppl asking if the moles would be volunteers or paid. Anyone know? Ahhh... cynicism  It may well be residents who are the Moles but I bet they cannot just go around sprucing up parts of the mainland without LL's say so, so in that regard LL is responsible. If the Moles are indeed LL employed resident's (for free or pay) then my thanks go out to them for the improvements I have seen. 
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Ayesha Lytton
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Join date: 30 May 2007
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12-01-2008 17:21
There would be lots of private continents with many contiguous sims to explore if LL hadn't killed Openspace sims. In fact, I planned to expand my continent and connect it to a second, differently-themed continent with water sims, but that's no longer financially viable. I even have a hole in the middle of my existing sims, while I build enough income to cover the ridiculous cost of a Homestead for my renters and visitors to surf, boat, and scuba dive. (The 750 prim new Openspace is a joke if one wants more than 10 avs, and to add fish etc.).
So yay for you, but the rest of us who've spent thousands of dollars creating an environment from our own imagination, can go take a flying leap according to LL.
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Gabriele Graves
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Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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12-01-2008 17:26
From: Ayesha Lytton There would be lots of private continents with many contiguous sims to explore if LL hadn't killed Openspace sims. In fact, I planned to expand my continent and connect it to a second, differently-themed continent with water sims, but that's no longer financially viable. I even have a hole in the middle of my existing sims, while I build enough income to cover the ridiculous cost of a Homestead for my renters and visitors to surf, boat, and scuba dive. (The 750 prim new Openspace is a joke if one wants more than 10 avs, and to add fish etc.). So yay for you, but the rest of us who've spent thousands of dollars creating an environment from our own imagination, can go take a flying leap according to LL. I don't say this very often, but Ayesha there are plenty of other threads complaining about OpenSpaces and LL's recent treatment. I am fed up hearing about it like it is the only thing that matters. Please take it someplace else, this thread is about something different - mainland improvements specifically. Thank You.
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Bella Posaner
Just say it how it is FFS
Join date: 8 May 2008
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12-01-2008 18:52
From: Pie Psaltery
there's an awful lot of ugly mainland out there.
I saw a parcel on the mainland that wasn’t quite as ugly as the rest of it. Sadly it was still surrounded by ugly dark, industrial builds, which made it look as hideous as the rest of the mainland lol
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Cristalle Karami
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Join date: 4 Dec 2006
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12-01-2008 19:01
From: Bella Posaner I saw a parcel on the mainland that wasn’t quite as ugly as the rest of it. Sadly it was still surrounded by ugly dark, industrial builds, which made it look as hideous as the rest of the mainland lol Well, Industrial isn't your taste, but it is for a lot of Goth/Vampire/Punk roleplayers. That doesn't necessarily make it ugly, it just makes it different. It's just not my taste, either. I would slam it if it was poorly made.
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Gabriele Graves
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12-01-2008 19:21
From: Bella Posaner I saw a parcel on the mainland that wasn’t quite as ugly as the rest of it. Sadly it was still surrounded by ugly dark, industrial builds, which made it look as hideous as the rest of the mainland lol I would say you have not seen very much of the mainland based upon your comments. There are some lovely parts of mainland. Most areas of land around the water sims are kept nice because a lot of people want to live on the beach in front of the sea. Go look at the lands surrounding the water areas near my sim Watchman to find land that is only as laggy as most islands, mostly adfarm free without anything I would call ugly. Or go see where I have land in Tamsi, the areas around there are lovely. Same goes for the area around Nautilus where I also have land in San Seguis. I am not just saying look at my land, I am saying look at the vast areas around these parts I am most familliar with before calling all mainland ugly. Sure there are some banlines (not as many as you would think and despite what people say I have personally seen banlines on islands too) and there is not as much uniformity between sims but within the same sim you usually find people are trying to keep things nice and consistent. There are sims and sims of waterfront that is simply a delight to drive your boats past. I know this because I boat a lot.
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Gabriele Graves
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12-01-2008 19:27
In my OP I wanted to encourage people to post anything they found that had been improved by LL and/or Moles for mainland, not for this to turn into a hate LL or hate mainland thread. I would prefer this to stay on topic as there are many other threads where people can express unhappiness/disatisfaction about LL and/or the mainland. Thank You.
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Anti Antonelli
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Join date: 25 Apr 2006
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12-01-2008 20:14
OK, back to the topic (I already posted this in the duplicate thread but, well, everybody else posted in this one). A coffee shop (not a business, just a functional Linden-owned build) went in next to my store in Brownlee a while back, on Linden owned land that was not protected but set to "maintenance". Nice build and a small relief to have something put in there - the empty field was nice but I was always a little worried that LL would some day remember that old parcel and put it up for auction and I'd end up with an ad farm or some other horrible thing next door. Re: suspicions of ulterior motives... Brownlee is pretty much smack in the middle of the old southern continent, about as landlocked as you can get. It's a roadside parcel in a nice non-crowded commercial area. They clearly did it just to spruce the place up a bit. 
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