Listing of good Estate Owners?

Is there a listing somewhere of good reliable Estate Owners to rent from?

Depends on what you're looking for. I rent whole sims only.

There are plenty of reliable and very good ones that rent smaller.

I don't know about a listing, but I am incredibly happy with the estates and owners that I am living on and with. The community is fabulous and I trust them wholeheartedly. If your interested in either checking out the estates or talking with any of the owners to get a feel for them, IM me in world and I'll tp you. I swear by them!

This is Raymond's area of expertise.

Hi,

Don't think that such a list exists.

But when you want you can always talk about our service and quality with one or more of our residents.

Hope to cu soon

Course I realize this is self advertisement,

I dont advertise land for any other price than what it actually is (hint you reserve price mongers)
I dont take peoples land unless it is a violation of covenants (100% garanteed)
I have never sold a sim
Been in Business for over a year
90% occupancy rate
Downloadable contract that can be notarized in Real Life
Deed Deliveried to your RL door for a fee


IM me

If you're truly renting (preferably just week to week), and not outlaying a large amount of cash up front for property, then you don't have a lot to worry about.

I have a canned response for this now, since this topic comes up just about every day. It also explains why I won't name any names.

"Estate land that you purchase can be reclaimed at any time by the estate owner, or could disappear if the Estate owner does not pay their tier. Linden Lab does not intervene in such events. Research any prospective landlord carefully, and perhaps ask current tenants their opinion. Asking for names in the forums generally invites an advertising frenzy, and will not give you an exhaustive list of all responsible estate owners. If you are not sure that you can trust your estate owner, then do not outlay any sum of money that you cannot afford to lose."

I think a list of bad estate owners would be more useful. 95% are good. Keeping track of the bad 5% would be much simpler.

The larger ones like Dreamland will be less likely to go belly up with the big FU like what happened to the people in the "land grab" thread. Still, there is always a risk.

Then there are the micronations like Caldonea and Fatimas.

Personally I would not buy land on someone else's estate. you are just paying them for the previlagde to rent their land. There are too many places that do not require an initial, non-recoverable investment for their land.

Here is my shameless plug for Rasta Island and Resort:

I rent there and have not had any problems, the people who hang out and live there are a great bunch! And there ar several houses and apartments still available!

but alas...no list.

This type of thread is always a bad idea. All your asking for is shamelss plugs from estate owners.

The best thing you can do is ask around from people you know. Go to the Forum Cartel Hangout and ask there. Someone mentioned Ray, but he no longer posts a list in the forums anymore because he felt it wasn't inclusive enough of all the good ones out there in this public of a venue.

What Brad said...I am just a shamless renter, a very happy, shameless renter.

The problem with such lists, should they exist, is you then have to shift the scrutiny to the reputation and judgement of the list maker, and so you are back to square one!

I'd advise doing a little research, and asking a few questions.

How long has the landlord/lady been in SL? Of course there are plenty of decent honourable 'young' landlords/ladies, and everyone has to start somewhere - similarly, there are bound to be some older residents that aren't great landlords/ladies, but you can't help but feel you are taking less of a risk the more well established the landlord/lady is. How long have they then been a landlord/lady? You can check the date current residents have 'purchased' or rented land within an estate sim from the 'about land' menu, 'general' tab. Of course that is only really valid if the land is in the name of the tenant, or of their group.

Search the forums for the landlord/lady and/or their business name.

Have a wonder around the sims, and if you see current residents, perhaps go and have a chat with them to get their opinions - how long they have been there, have they been happy, etc. Would they advise others to rent there?

And of course ask them directly; any decent landlord/lady will be more than happy to help you with your questions. I'm sure there are also decent residents who have very little time to answer your questions, but you then of course need to realise support may be lacking once a resident.

There's no 100% way of knowing if you are choosing a 'decent' landlord/lady, but you can increase your chances of finding something decent if you do a little research and ask some questions. Also, what constitutes a 'decent' landlord/lady may also vary from one person or another, so you just need to find what's best for you. The more sources you seek for your info, the more confident you can be with any conclusions you come to.

Would you rather them not ask and get burned?. I think threads like this should stay up on the first page, obviously its a big concern for alot of people, and it is a legitimate Q&A

matter of fact i would like to see a resident furom dedicated to Estate Covenants

Okay, so I'm Bradley Bracken and I'm the most ruthless, crooked, most underhanded estate owner in SL. Do you not think that I'm smart enough to have all of my friends and all of my alts list how wonderful I am on this thread? Really kind of pointless isn't it?

Used to be until I got so much crap for it (like my opinion counts more than anyone else's ). I would be glad to IM the OP my list if she contacts me, but, as Bradley stated, I'm done with my public recommendations.

No No, dont get me wrong, yah, these threads do invite alot of spam advertisement, but of all the replies, a person might find something that they do like, atleast the poster is doing the research ...thats all

Not even to mention the legions of well-meaning honest estate owners with happy tenants and bad, unsustainable business plans, and/or unstable personal lives, doomed to fail in the near future. They would all be on the list too.

So maybe I didn't use the proper terminology, and I'm not trying to cause a stir.

Using Search for land buying is not very helpful, though putting "Estates" into Places did bring up a lot of nice places to explore.

And yes, there has been much discussion lately about lousey Estate Owners, but of course the names get immediately starred out, so I can't even research them.

I sold off the rest of my mainland today real cheap and am now homeless. I'm also in the process of downgrading to free member. I've been in SL for less than a year now, but have determined a bit more what I want and don't want.

I'd like to build a little house, but I don't like mainland garbage. And my explorations are bringing me to some very lovely sims, the lovelier they are the more they cost too, so I have to decide what I want to do.

Is there possibly just a blog that deals with land ownership and estates just as there are fashion blogs for SL?

Do you know that you can't buy land on a private sim when you are in the downgrade proces ? And this proces can take up to a month.
So if you have plans to buy something in a private sim do it before or a month after your downgrade.

Zoha, oops...no I didn't know that.

I'm paid through Feb 25, though in the downgrade process as of today. So that means I can not buy on an Estate? I can do straight rent though perhaps? Or is it still the same? Confusing this is.

Hey, it just slows me down some if that's the case.

See, you research and research and you STILL miss this kind of stuff.

Renting is still possible. But the BUY LAND button is not working if you want to become the owner of the land. Even when the price is set at 0l$.

This is a long going bug. The only thing to fix this is to upgrade your account again and buy land and do the upgrade after it.

I'll offer up d'Alliez, Desmond Shang, Ossified Ogre and Serra Anansi as reputable Estate Owners. I'd like to think they would each add me in return. And, as mentioned above, anyone is always welcome to talk to my residents behind my back about me. My *ex*residents too!

Char

I would always suggest talking to other residents in a given estate prior to making a decision. Speak with as many as you can / as many as you want to. As others have suggested, check up on the estate owner, i.e. how long they've been around, how long they've been in the estate business. Read the covenant through (read it twice even) and make sure it is something you understand and agree with. Even, talk with the estate owner and see if you think you'll get along with them.

And I'll shameless plug here too - I am an estate owner and I do residential rental properties. I rarely have any vacancies though so I don't advertise my rentals all that much. My estate is Waikiti and we've now got a website: http://www.waikiti.com/

-Atashi

I'll second Ossified Ogre. Not sure if he has any vacancies but certainly worth an ask. His sim also looks very nice.