Trustable Landlords
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-27-2009 19:12
Because you get 100m terraforming, custom terrain textures, actual support (though LL has been getting better about that), and under 4096m you generally pay less rent than you'd be paying in tier.
It's not all skittles and beer, and there's advantages on mainland as well. I've ended up with land both places.
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Ceka Cianci
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07-27-2009 19:22
Charlene Trudeau of Skybeam estates.. I had a little plot there for over two years while still having other lands because i loved the community..She was always helpful and the community channel was always active and friendly.. She is as friendly as it gets and the people in her community are important to her.. I defiantly recommend stopping in and looking around and also talking to her 
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Princess Ivory
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07-27-2009 19:42
Serra Anansi - Winterfell.
Nothing but good experiences dealing with her, and Winterfell is a lovely area comprised of multiple sims.
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Briana Dawson
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07-27-2009 21:07
From: Brenda Connolly Right now I can think of several well established landlords that I would trust more and have better business sense and ethics than LL could ever have. Why? No matter what, you are still affected by what ever LL does. If someone does not want to be billed by LL i can understand that. But as it stands i still do not understand what benefit is there. Are you greater protected somehow by paying your tier to another instead of LL? How so?
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Tarina Sewell
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07-27-2009 21:31
It depends on what you are looking for, you know.. we all take our chances on here as a sim owner who does have rentals (none currently open) my renters have been with me almost the whole time.... BUT you know SL could unplug and we'd all be f,,, so you know we all take chances.
I am not cure about liability on that account...
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Megatron Gears
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07-27-2009 21:38
From: Beowulf Blackburn Hi there I am looking for land to rent, best with Paypal monthly payment. I am currently TPing all over the grid and I do find a lot of plots available, but the hard thing is to know if the Landlord is trustable, established and won't leave with my money after a week  So if someone could recommend a well established company I would appreciate that help! Try Bluesky Dreams ..contact Aprilshowers Becloud she can help you out nicely Megatron
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Sinitta Sciavo
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07-27-2009 22:57
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Cristalle Karami
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07-27-2009 23:04
From: Briana Dawson I really have no idea why people choose to pay a landlord when they could just as well be paying LL instead. Because landlords can offer greater flexibility in payment requirements. The cheapest rental I have is 100L/wk. I've seen people price rentals even less. You couldn't get anything like that from Linden Lab, especially without a significant cash outlay to start. P.S. Thanks Chris 
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Brenda Connolly
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07-27-2009 23:22
From: Briana Dawson Why? No matter what, you are still affected by what ever LL does.
If someone does not want to be billed by LL i can understand that.
But as it stands i still do not understand what benefit is there. Are you greater protected somehow by paying your tier to another instead of LL?
How so? I'm not tied into any committments by renting on an estate. I don't have a monthly premium membership fee...or worse paid up for a whole year. I can pay rent on a weekly basis, so it's real easy to walk away, if I want. Sure the landlord can , or change the rules, but there are enough stable landlords where that risk is minimal, and along with the other trade offs, worth taking. Plus right now, the idea of giving LL as little as possible in direct payments is very gratifying. They get the fee off my Lindex buys and that's it.
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Tegg Bode
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07-27-2009 23:26
Look to see how long they have ben in SL, if it's under 6 months forget it. Even then make sure they have actually been active and aren't just a disposable alt they created 2 years ago.
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Shambolic Walkenberg
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07-28-2009 01:05
From: Briana Dawson I really have no idea why people choose to pay a landlord when they could just as well be paying LL instead. I've recently moved to a parcel on Wildefire's Desperation estate. I was very much thinking of getting mainland instead, and after some help from the forum mainland does look a cheaper option. However, I've yet to work out where my home sits in the scheme of PG, Mature (or PGmk2 as it seems to be now), and Adult. I would be far happier to have adult land as that is what I always thought mature was anyway. And as there's no adult land available (and even when there is, the prices are going to be insane) I don't really want to find a tolerable 2048 of mature and get a barrage of ARs or other hassle if I dare let anything more heated than a coffee morning take place. Plus, where I am now is part of a themed estate that overall suits me quite well. I can be fairly sure nothing I or my guests may get up to will offend anyone around, there's plenty of places to wander over to that have interesting aspects to them, and I really doubt I'd be able to find anywhere like that on the random mix of builds that is the mainland. I can pay weekly with no upfront costs as well, so if I do decide to move, become homeless, or pack SL in altogether I'm not going to be worrying about lost money on buying land. When I first got land I rented simply because I didn't know whether I could afford or justify going premium. I was paying about £1 a week, which was much better for trying SL out than forking over an upfront membership fee, then more for land somewhere, then tier on top.
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Katheryne Helendale
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07-28-2009 01:17
Since it hasn't been indicated whether we're talking about renting whole sims (or large chunks thereof) vs. renting smaller residential parcels, I'll throw my current home sim out there. If you are looking for just a parcel to call home, don't mind living on a single-island estate, and you'd like to see your landlord more often than once in a blue moon, then you don't need to look any further than Kit Kat Island. I've been living there for at least nine months now, and would not consider living anywhere else! We are a very friendly, close-knit community, friendly toward pretty much all walks of life. We have a large, open park featuring a large lake with 7Seas fishing in the middle of the island, and a nice mini-mall.
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Bradley Bracken
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07-28-2009 01:17
From: Briana Dawson I really have no idea why people choose to pay a landlord when they could just as well be paying LL instead. For me, trying to find a decent piece of land that is ocean front and cheap enough to afford, I could never have done it through Linden Lab. It was just too time consuming. My current location is perfect. It's not on the ocean, but the layout of waterways and residential land is not just a checkerboard. It's laid out very nice. It seems a bit pricey, but I'm willing to pay it. Someday I hope to find exactly what I want on the mainland, but for now I'm happy where I am. Currently my landlord is Zoha Boa of Zoha Islands. I haven't been with him long enough to make a huge recommendation, however, the few times I needed assistance he always acted in a professional manner.
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Nina Stepford
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07-28-2009 01:23
cos ll are the most negligent estate managers on the grid. From: Briana Dawson I really have no idea why people choose to pay a landlord when they could just as well be paying LL instead.
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Katheryne Helendale
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07-28-2009 01:27
From: Briana Dawson I really have no idea why people choose to pay a landlord when they could just as well be paying LL instead. Because sometimes there's more to finding a satisfying place to call home than just finding the cheapest square in an unregulated hodge-podge of dissimilar parcels, sandwiched between a strip club and a freebie mega-mall. While it's true LL is not likely to pull the rug out from under your feet (unless you have adult stuff on your land, that is), the lack of zoning and covenants make for a rather unpredictable experience. That cute Tudor you've moved next to today may well be a giant 400-meter pink penis tomorrow. This sort of thing does not happen on a properly-managed estate.
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-28-2009 01:52
From: Brenda Connolly I'm not tied into any committments by renting on an estate. I don't have a monthly premium membership fee...or worse paid up for a whole year. I can pay rent on a weekly basis, so it's real easy to walk away, if I want. That's what I thought, but now there's so many people with landmarks pointing to my Island store that it'd be easier for me to move on the Mainland... I could slice off a small parcel at my LP and leave a landmark giver there more or less indefinitely for free.
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Miles Beck
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Join date: 20 Mar 2007
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07-28-2009 04:22
I'll second the mention of Garth & Pituca FairChang as outstanding, trustworthy landowners. Other good ones have certainly been mentioned above, too. I've been on FairChang Balboa since January 2008. From: Katheryne Helendale Because sometimes there's more to finding a satisfying place to call home than just finding the cheapest square in an unregulated hodge-podge of dissimilar parcels, sandwiched between a strip club and a freebie mega-mall. While it's true LL is not likely to pull the rug out from under your feet (unless you have adult stuff on your land, that is), the lack of zoning and covenants make for a rather unpredictable experience. That cute Tudor you've moved next to today may well be a giant 400-meter pink penis tomorrow. This sort of thing does not happen on a properly-managed estate. Katheryne put it very well. Keep in mind that there are a lot of landowners who do not enforce their covenants. Good ones do.
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Soar Wingtips
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Landlords
07-28-2009 04:48
We are mainland and we have a good reputation and tenants seem happy, we try to accomadate all needs, whether it be a parcel or a home, and our prim/rent costs are very competitive. We also look on our tenants as friends, so go the extra way with events and extra community offers. We are FFrendz, you can im me or just go take a look, no pressures, but if you want to talk I am about. Also if you need your home furnished we do that free of charge. We have areas in PG, Mature and Adult. Soar 
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Briana Dawson
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07-28-2009 05:06
Thanks everyone!
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Nickola Martynov
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07-28-2009 06:22
Let me throw in a good word about Ener Hax and her iliveisl Estates (iliveisl.com). Ener is responsive, supportive and one of the sweetest people I've met in SL.
The estate is imaginatively designed with a wide range of terrain types across the sims. There are lots of public areas: parks, shops, hangouts and an art gallery that residents can use to hold their own events.
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Briana Dawson
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07-28-2009 08:02
From: Nickola Martynov Let me throw in a good word about Ener Hax and her iliveisl Estates (iliveisl.com). Ener is responsive, supportive and one of the sweetest people I've met in SL.
The estate is imaginatively designed with a wide range of terrain types across the sims. There are lots of public areas: parks, shops, hangouts and an art gallery that residents can use to hold their own events. Ya, Ener Hax is good. I used her before.
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Nae Mayo
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07-28-2009 09:32
A landlord can trustworthy, reliable, give excellent service...etc. But when LL change any policy that affect land business, any landlord will pull out if they are unable to breakeven.
Try to look for well establish landlord. But then, LL policy change can affect anyone. Even land baron like Elanthius Flagstaff is pulling out of mainland now.
When mainland price drop to real cheap. People will start flocking to mainland and you might see estate business affected. And Estate land baron might start to drop like flies.
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DJQuad Radio
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07-28-2009 10:45
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Ciaran Laval
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07-28-2009 11:09
From: Nae Mayo When mainland price drop to real cheap. People will start flocking to mainland and you might see estate business affected. And Estate land baron might start to drop like flies. Mainland prices are really cheap, people aren't flocking.
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Maelstrom Janus
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07-28-2009 11:12
Try checking out the fairchangs....nice people, nice place......
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