Freebie store is allowed by LL ???

Easy question...

Well..I Bouth several Business in a Box...to create a Freebie mall..

All products is full permission...

Well.The shopping is ready...

First I receaved a menace that LL will punish me because this is not allowed...

Ok...Whatever...

And now...a strange guy rented a store in front of my freebie shopping selling the same products that's free on the mall...

Obviouslly is another stupid hippie that opened a store in front on my store and probally will wait 1, maybe 2 weeks to call to LL and will say that I ruined his business with my store..

Obviouslly is a trap...

Ok, Ok, Ok...First Thing: If I'm violating some LL Rules I don't wanna violate the rules...I'd like to stay in full compliance with LL agreements...

That's the 1st thing tha I need to know: Can I give products for free on my store ???

Rafaella, if you bought a Business in a Box, anyone else can too. And whoever buys that business can sell the items for whatever price they wish. If you charge L$0, and they charge L$100, neither of you can complain against the other. The items are full permissions and are therefore allowed to be sold (or given away) by anyone. He is not ruining your business, as you are giving the items away. You could possibly be ruining his business, but since he set up after you, it was his fault for setting up in your area. Neither of you can claim damages. Neither of you will be reported to LL; what both of you are doing is completely legal.

However, if you're already being harassed, you may want to file AR's *now* so you have them on file if things do escalate.

No, No !! Let me explain...I Made the freebie shopping and I received several menaces...

First thing: I'm the sim owner...just to let it clear...

So, someone rented a available space exactlly in front of my Freebie shopping selling the same products, but with prices.And obviouslly is some guy that's doing it in mind to tell to LL that I'm ruinning his business.Understood now ?

In resume: The guy opened a store with peid products in front of my FREEBIE MALL.Just to open a report and tell to LL that I'm screwing his businnes...It's obvious is someone tryint to fight me.Someone with a plan in mind.Perhaps some of the stupid child that's already menaced me before.

Also, I think exactlly like you: I bought the products with full permission.So, It's my right char 0 or 100 or 1000 L$ whatever I want ! I Didn't stoled anybody else.If the creator put the products for sale, so...Bad to him.It means that I BOUGHT the freedom to do whatever I want...

Well..It's really make sense...So, I just need to know: IS THERE ANY RULE OF LL ABOUT FREEBIES ? OR ANY RULE ABOUT COMMERCIAL DISTRIBUTION ???

I really need to know if LL think like us...If I'm really violating some agreement I will shutdown my Mall.I Just need a official information of LL to ensure if I'm really protected.

Because the guy apper to know exactlly what he is planning.

NO Rafaella. There is no rule against giving away freebies. I said that already.

And, by the way: if you are the sim owner, you can always kick that other guy out.

Another thing: Linden Lab does NOT get involved in monetary issues between residents. It's stated in the TOS. If the guy files an AR against you, he is wrong and will be ignored. To the above poster: Rafaella shouldn't bother filing an AR against the other guy. She should just kick him off her sim. Why waste LL's time with an AR?

Well, I only recommend it as a "having prior history on file" if things might escalate into griefing, etc.

However, if they own the sim (which I apparently missed, and I apologize for that) the Lindens will do fuck-all because it becomes the "estate owners responsibility."

The other question -- is the problem person even in the same sim, or causing trouble over a shared border?

Yes !! Ty !

That's What I will do it

"Obviouslly is another stupid hippie" I take this as an insult, and will be reporting it to the forum mods.

Add my name to that report then because I agree with that assessment.

Giving away Freebies isn't agasint any code of ethics or rules/regulagations.

SELLING Freebies isn't agasint LL's rules, but does go agaisnt most people's moral ethics. Even without being right across from the Freebie store, selling freebies is despicable. While LL might not do anythign about it, I'd feel the sim owner (which is thankfully the OP in this case) would be doing SL a service to boot/ban this stupid hippie off the sim completely.

The OP is trying to help people in SL. The other is just trying to scam people in SL. That anyone would defend such is something I find despicable in itself.

~Jessy

s/he's not giving away freebies. s/he's giving away stuff from 'business in a box'es.

hence, the other guy is also not doing anything wrong by trying to sell them, as that is what they are ostensibly made for.


as for the general opinion that business in a box stuff is total crap and not worth money to buy.... well, that's another story in another thread.

Excuse me, ladies.... we're not all 'stupid hippies'.

Friggin' squares..... grumble, grumble....

The only thing that really was done wrong here was that one party made threats to another. Kind of a stupid thing to do, given that the OP is the estate owner.

Ignore 'em or if they get to be too annoying, boot an' ban 'em. LL doesn't care until a DMCA is filed.

I think by giving away the stuff from the business in a box, you are ruining the business of everyone who was using that BiaB to set up a business.

Even worse: By giving the stuff away you have turned these products that used to have a value into freebies and now the people selling them can be accused of selling freebies! Even though they may have done a thorough investigation before opening their business that the product they are selling were not freebies, they are now suddenly looked upon as criminals by the people who happen to have seen your shop.

Why don't you sell the stuff for a decent price instead of giving it away and ruining yet another branch of business in SL?

In the meantime, where them freebies at? Woo!

there are at least 5 great freebie spots already. why do we need the same stuff, at a different location?

This may or may not be the same stuff that's everywhere else. I'm just curious myself.

To attract traffic, I guess

For all practical purposes, the businesses-in-a-box items are already free. Anyone who sells such a product for more than $1L is inviting complaints from people who feel cheated when they buy a product from her for $2L and then find it somewhere else for $1L.

Owning some of those popular businesses-in-a-box, I don't think any come with a license requiring a minimum price for resale.

READ the LL Terms of Service, And the Community Standards.

Linden Labs will NOT get involved in Trade Disputes. Let him AR all he wants, LL won't get Involved unless a TOS Violation takes place.

Angel.

From what I have read, the OP is not complaining about your business. She is asking us if your threats to report her for violating the rules have any merit. They do not. There is no rule against giving items away for free.

And I do understand: you bought a business-in-a-box and now your business is challenged by somebody who did the same, but is giving the items away. This is one of the many reasons that a business-in-a-box package is simply a bad way to start a business here in SL. Your best bet is to create some items yourself, and start with a small store.

At the very least, move your store to another location. The contents of your store are probably available all over the grid for free, or for less than you want to charge. The burden is really on you to find a place to sell, where you aren't being undersold on the parcel next door.

At the same time, I challenge you to think more deeply about what you are doing. Selling items that are available for free elsewhere is really taking advantage of newer people that cannot recognize a freebie.

I wish you all the best with your future business efforts and hope that you will find a way to build your own products. In the end, this will be your path to success.

Just curious, Persephone, who're you talking to?

Well, I am assuming Manstan Beaumont, who seems to have taken offense to the label "stupid hipee," is the store owner that has been messaging the OP with threats of an AR. But you know what, I might be wrong about that.

So, I dunno. I am prolly just talking to myself.

Hey, I call Hippies ppls that's menace me, ok ? What exactlly U understand with it ?



You too !

Try to understand things better before get in pain.I'm a SouthPark Freak, so I'd like to call as Hippie anyone that's against the system.That's it

BTW, Sorry...no intention to insult anyone

Other way around, I think. The OP is giving them away for free and the other person is selling things for L$100. Also, the OP is the sim owner.

If you really own the sim, tell the people in the other store to stop or leave. Your sim, your rules.

the OP has the freebie store, and someone made a store of the same items, but is charging money for them (the freebies). the freebie store owner is also the sim owner. she has been advised to evict the charging store owner, and ban him.

Manstan is opposed to the term "hippie" being used as a derogatory label. i always thought a hippie was a long haired dope smoking liberal, therefore a griefer. how that relates to the OP or Manstan is beyond my knowledge, and how they each intreprest the definition of a hippie clearly differs, and has not been explained, but has caused a skewing of the thread subject and introduced a certain level of potential entertainment for us looky-loos.

okay, i think we are all caught up.

(edit: Meade beat me to the punch)