Emerald POS

i just keep that otr crap off..it's too much of a pain in the ass..i don't care if LL can see my IM's or not..

Did it then try to tell you it was raining? If not, no problem.

This problem has nothing to do with Emerald. It can be seen in a controlled sim environment where everyone is using the official veiwer -- and there is already a JIRA issue on it.

I don't think the Cryo stuff is on by default - but then again, many of the Emerald features are not well documented so folks could turn it on without realizing what the impact is.

I see it an awful lot - so much that I have to conclude it's on by default. It may be on all the time, as it's not something that Emerald users see, even with whatever it is turned on. It only appears in my bots programme (console window). I can do some testing though.

ETA:
I'll test it when the blighters stop flooding my console window with it lol There are only 2 of them but, between them, they are giving it some stick.

Crypto is set to requiest by default.
Means if I IM with another emerald user it encrypts, normal messages it doesn't. Usually the first IM I send or receive isn't encrypted, then it generate a key and all that and after that it is.
So i assume it only spams people with keys and stuff when you actually IM them.

Its a pretty stupid feature though, and I don't really see the need for it, its not like I'm sending my credit card details over IMs.

Maybe older versions had it set to require by default, and when they upgraded to a new version it stuck?

And I agree it should tell the emerald user, they're the only ones who can do something about it, not the guy they send the IM to. "Hey you got an IM here, but you can't answer. "

Emerald is for advanced, technically inclined users. Advanced users will not misunderstand these things, and know what they are doing.
Unfortunately many people who are not so advanced use it, and get confused by the farely technical features and end up making there experience worse then it would be on LL's viewer.

And also keep in mind you have the ability to turn off any feature you don't like. You are using Emerald because it has special features... why would you not look at all the features?

If you don't understand how a feature works, or just don't like it, do not use it.

Also, do come on the emerald IRC channel, #emerald on modularsystems.sl:8888 and ask people questions! Maybe we can teach you something.

Not to mention....

If you had emerald, you would see that overwhelmingly, TP into ANYWHERE and the number of Emerald users VS "all other clients" is extreme... I went to an extremely busy sim and my guess is 3/4's of the folks there, and TPing in and out use emerald... Its hot atm.

If you are curious about the many features.. have a look here....

http://modularsystems.sl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24&Itemid=16



Over 5 years in Sl from my 1st alt.. and i LOVE the Emerald Viewer.. but everyone should use the one they find easiest/best/least laggy.

~Brie

There is nothing on any of the Emerald web pages that specifies only technically inclined folks should be using it. When the 'jiggly bewbies' became available, I got notecards from many different groups telling everyone to download this wonderful viewer so they can have jiggly bewbs. Those type of group announcements have helped make Emerald one of the most used viewers, but apparently not by just the technically inclined. Hell, when I first heard of Emerald and found that it performed much better than the LL viewers, even I was guilty of spreading the "use Emerald" comment since I did not know then that it really should not be used by the every day common user.

Personally I think the Emerald developers should put a LARGE and very EXPLICIT statement about who should be using it on the download page. That won't catch all the idiots that *think* they know something, but it might help.

Even then, the Emerald features still need much better documentation about their effects.

But for the Emerald prompt to strongly recommend turning on a feature without explaining the repercussions is a problem that they could and should fix. Simply adding the line "Use of this feature will disable IMs with avatars that do not have OTR enabled (including all non-Emerald users)" would reduce misunderstandings.

And if Emerald is for advanced, technically inclined users, they should place a disclaimer to this effect before you download or install the viewer. I don't recall seeing one.

I disagree with that. I used Emerald for a while (still do as needed) and I could see only a minority of people using it, and a small minority at that (often none in sight). I'm not disagreeing with what you saw in that place you mentiuoned, of course, but I'm disagreeing with your estimate of overall useage.

Yep. SVC-3895.

What you say has been pretty well known for 6 months now. It's been mentioned, time and time again, here in the forums. People will still blame Emerald anyway, regardless of the facts.

/me read that Emerald shot JFK and managed the cover-up at Roswell.

Maybe its the places i frequent.. but overwhelmingly, its the majority rather then the minority. The Emerald Website had reported over 50K downloads... So the numbers are there.

But again.. That's my opinion.. and i guess i am biased. I LOVE Emerald

~Brie

Well it's probably so popular because the Dev's have added more cool stuff in 12 months than LL has in 6 years. and it's moreso a crap load of lttle tweaks & niceties like inventory sorting that LL couldn't be bothered with. People would pay for a viewer like Emerald but not for any of the "freebie quality" LL viewers so far.

I think Emerald is brilliant - for what I want it for - temp uploads. I still suspect it of freezing things in my computer, which isn't very old at all and has a good graphics card (nVidia 9500), but it's only a suspicion. It just happened again when I was using Emerald to test that cryo ping thing.

It's quite possible that word of mouth gets around specific places so that a larger number of people in those places use it. I'm going by what I see in the very few places I visit - mainly my store, where the visitors are a general mix of people and not any sort of grouping.

ETA:
Downloads and useage are usually very different. I've downloaded it at least three times and rarely use it. Same with Firefox - it's extremely rare that I use that. Dowloading something to have a look at it isn't the same as useage.

Awesome - it is about damn time we finally found out who really shot JFK.

This is interesting as I know that everyone seems to experience different issues with different viewers. I seem to crash a lot with Emerald, especially if I am camming a lot and/or taking lots of pics. It is not an issue of graphics card heating up, as I keep a monitor for that running constantly.

The interesting part is that I decided to use Snowglobe for a few days to compare crashes, performance, etc... With Snowglobe, textures rez faster than the current official LL released viewer, but much much slower than Emerald. Also, when logged in to Snowglobe, my viewer is constantly freezing for seconds, sometimes a full couple of minutes --- but I almost never crash using it.

LULz.

(Did it look like this?)

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/76219747.html

No.. It was more green, I think.

BUMPESSES!!!

Not if they don't tell anyone that.

A question. Is the "local radar" different from the Radar button? I ask because the Radar button is no good as a radar. If nearby avs are not shown on the hud, then it isn't really a radar is the way we are used to having a radar. I haven't seen a "local radar" and I've looked through prefs for one. When I'm in Emerald, I always use my normal radar because it's useful, and only use the Radar button for specific things, so it doesn't replace the normal radar.

Absolutely.

The Emerald radar button deals with info that the sim already sends the viewer. A scripted radar object/HUD is constantly polling the sim, updating the object and sending those updates to your viewer. Very, very different animals.

edit: er. or I misunderstood the question. What's a local radar? /me was comparing the Emerald Radar button and an LSL-scripted object.

That's not what I meant, Meade. I meant that, if Emerald only has the radar button, then it's not the type of radar that we normally use, because it's not on-screen all the time. It can be be, of course, but it's a big box to have open all the time. Also, it lists avatars that are a long way away, even in the next sim, making a big list, much of which isn't wanted. The type of radar we are used to is one that's on-screen all the time and only lists those avs that are nearby. In other words, the Emerald radar isn't really a radar in the way that we mean radar.

I asked because someone used the term "local radar" and I wondered if Emerald has another one, more like a normal radar, that needs opting in for.

I only use the Emerald radar for seeing where an av is after I've seen its nearby presence on my normal radar. The Emerald one can't replace the normal type.

/me suggests poking an Emerald dev and asking them to allow a max distance to be specified and to allow the ability to chose which columns you want displayed. Neither sounds like a horribly difficult task and they will likely do it, if they agree that it's a decent idea.

You can also hover over dots on the minimap (maybe in snowglobe, too) and get name of the person there. I usually use that instead of the Radar button. Both only use data that the sim already sends the viewer so, efficiency-wise, they're waaaaaaaay better than a scripted object.