Know any nice beach homes to rent?
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-03-2007 16:59
From: Incanus Merlin That's a little unfair, Tiz, unless you're going to explain why you don't like it. Then the OP can decide whether or not to take your view into account, depending on her own preferences. Inc well I finally took a look, especially after the comment tiz made and I agree with tiz and I will explain why I dislike the disorderly look it has, haphazard reminds me of any slap together mainland sim builds overlapping plot lines, nothing seems to have a rhyme or reason to it (might be it was planned that way) uneven land (which I am sure was planned) now, I am not dissing the sim, as many others do like this kind of look I prefer a more structured feel, with roads, stores, and such I like the city feel this just feels like any other sim to me again just my opinion and ymmv 
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Raymond Figtree
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12-03-2007 17:08
From: Rhaorth Antonelli well I finally took a look, especially after the comment tiz made and I agree with tiz and I will explain why I dislike the disorderly look it has, haphazard reminds me of any slap together mainland sim builds overlapping plot lines, nothing seems to have a rhyme or reason to it (might be it was planned that way) uneven land (which I am sure was planned) now, I am not dissing the sim, as many others do like this kind of look I prefer a more structured feel, with roads, stores, and such I like the city feel this just feels like any other sim to me again just my opinion and ymmv  Tiziana was dissing it because he/she got into an argument with me on a thread about a month ago and is just trolling. The property lines are set up that way because I wanted to create a protected sailing lane for my residents. Builds overlap property lines because I have a lot of public areas for people. The land is uneven because flat land is boring. Thanks for your honest appraisal of my sim. Good luck with your business ventures in SL. You've been most helpful.
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JessyAnne Theas
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12-03-2007 19:27
I love Liome for all the reasons I've heard against it. So many rental neighborhoods are cookie cutter. The houses are perfectly aligned, and in rows. Perfectly FLAT and square plot lines without any kind of homey design whatsover. Liome has places to gather, places to enjoy your neighbors in public areas outside of earshot of homes as well as areas of acitivites. All beautifully landscaped and again.. much more cozy and inviting than square neighborhoods. And if neighbors and open waterways aren't your thing, there are sky plots available. The rent is fair and bordering on cheap. My guess is Ray barely breaks even if not operating in the red. Try it for a week... if you don't like it... then you've given it a chance.
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Nika Talaj
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12-03-2007 19:53
I agree with the OP, beachfront living has its charms.
"I'm really glad we came here, but I wish you'd learn to say it right", he says, throwing his sun-bronzed body on the sand next to her, glistening from the WindLight-touched waves at their feet. "It's lie-o-me, 3 syllables."
"No its not!" she stretches out her arms above her, admiring her new manicure. "It's Lee-omm, like a mantra!"
"Lie-o(n)-me" he laughs, taking her wrists and pulling her over on top of him. "See?"
"Hey!" She squirms, then straddles him, her hips resting lightly on his ... stares into his eyes ... whispers: "Liome"
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-03-2007 20:03
From: Raymond Figtree Tiziana was dissing it because he/she got into an argument with me on a thread about a month ago and is just trolling.
The property lines are set up that way because I wanted to create a protected sailing lane for my residents. Builds overlap property lines because I have a lot of public areas for people. The land is uneven because flat land is boring.
Thanks for your honest appraisal of my sim. Good luck with your business ventures in SL. You've been most helpful. I stated my opinion, and the reason why. What is wrong with having someone describe the way it looks. Might just be what someone else is looking for. As for my business ventures in SL, there is only one, and I do not try to use it to make tier or whatnot, so if it makes sales good, if not, then that is ok too. I do it cuz I enjoy it. any business be it SL or RL has to be able to withstand the negativity. I do apologise if it impacted your business badly. I doubt if it did as majority definately see the place as awesome (and I am not saying it sucks, just not to my taste) why did I post? a moment of insanity I guess.
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Cristalle Karami
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12-03-2007 20:12
Liome is beautiful in my eyes. But if you like urban sprawl, or extreme symmetry, you won't like it. Can't please everyone! And you shouldn't try. Rha had her opinion, shouldn't feel bad for stating it - you're a city girl, through and through. It's not designed to attract city people. NO hurt feelings!
As for the rent - 5:1 is fair... to some people. It's going to be too expensive for some, who do not value the community area as much. Considering the beauty of the place, and the sailing, it is probably more fair than one may think at first blush.
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Nimue Jewell
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12-03-2007 20:22
From: Cristalle Karami Liome is beautiful in my eyes. But if you like urban sprawl, or extreme symmetry, you won't like it. Can't please everyone! And you shouldn't try. Rha had her opinion, shouldn't feel bad for stating it - you're a city girl, through and through. It's not designed to attract city people. NO hurt feelings!
As for the rent - 5:1 is fair... to some people. It's going to be too expensive for some, who do not value the community area as much. Considering the beauty of the place, and the sailing, it is probably more fair than one may think at first blush. Well said. For me, Liome is the most inviting, relaxing, friendly, unique, personable, all around fun, residential beach sim I have seen (estate or mainland) anywhere on the grid. Oh, and it is gorgeous too.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-03-2007 20:27
From: Cristalle Karami Liome is beautiful in my eyes. But if you like urban sprawl, or extreme symmetry, you won't like it. Can't please everyone! And you shouldn't try. Rha had her opinion, shouldn't feel bad for stating it - you're a city girl, through and through. It's not designed to attract city people. NO hurt feelings!
As for the rent - 5:1 is fair... to some people. It's going to be too expensive for some, who do not value the community area as much. Considering the beauty of the place, and the sailing, it is probably more fair than one may think at first blush. well I do feel bad for stating it and someone knows why I feel bad (and I know they will not soon forget) I am sorry I said anything, I just should have kept my mouth shut, and if my comments were not quoted I would edit and remove them, thus no one else would have to see the negative comments about the sim. as for being a city girl, actually nope, born and raised total country, seaside, fisherman's daughter I just prefer something that has roads/streets, and a more geometrical laid out feel (I guess yeah suppose I have turned into a city girl) once again I am sorry I said anything negative about the sim and yes hon, there were hurt feelings
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Rosie Castro
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12-03-2007 21:05
Hi! I am the normally forum-shy estate manager at Liome. Despite all that has been said in this thread I just want to encourage everyone, especially the romantic OP, to come visit and see for yourself. I love nothing more than giving tours and doing all I can for our tenants. PM me to set up a time or send me an offline IM anytime. If I am able, I will come online to help. Back to shy... Rosie 
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Avion Raymaker
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12-03-2007 21:25
I love your place, Raymond. I'm stunned that people can be so negative and childish. What possible purpose does that serve?
I find myself wanting to avoid these nasty forums and spend more time in-world. Phillip is totally right about them.
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Raymond Figtree
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12-03-2007 22:29
Jeepers. Now I feel like coming to Rhaorth's defense. She's entitled to her opinion. At least she had her reasons for why she was disenchanted with the sim. Cristalle was right, no hard feelings.
There are a ton of nice beach sims out there. Sarah Nerd has several. Kandee Herrey's are gorgeous. I hope the OP finds one they are happy with.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-03-2007 22:45
From: Raymond Figtree Jeepers. Now I feel like coming to Rhaorth's defense. She's entitled to her opinion. At least she had her reasons for why she was disenchanted with the sim. Cristalle was right, no hard feelings. thank you raymond, and I am sorry if my words seemed harsh I was expecting something grand, spectacular etc mainly because I have seen so much good stuff said about it I was expecting something breath taking, something that would wow me, major big time, because so many ppl have described it as thus sadly it did not do that, but that doesn't mean that it will not do that for someone else, including the OP I think what got me was all the hype, I have been hearing(reading) a lot about liome lately so finally had to see what was so awesome about it, I think I was expecting too much  I am sorry for my words, but sadly I can not take them back, I would if I could and for the record I do not see myself as being childish by simply stating my opinion on something. I thought this was a free country or at least the freedom on the forums to put our thoughts and opinions, if that makes me childish then so be it sure it might have been negative (to some, others may have seen it for what it was, a personal perspective) but anyone into anything that is in the public eye has to learn to deal with negativity or opinions (even when not asked for)
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Raymond Figtree
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12-03-2007 22:53
I had to take down the full-size exact to every last detail replica of the Taj Mahal. Too many prims.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-03-2007 22:54
From: Raymond Figtree I had to take down the full-size exact to every last detail replica of the Taj Mahal. Too many prims. and the city I spent much of my time building, with love and passion is slowly being disassembled your point is?
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Trout Recreant
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12-03-2007 22:56
From: Nika Talaj I agree with the OP, beachfront living has its charms.
"I'm really glad we came here, but I wish you'd learn to say it right", he says, throwing his sun-bronzed body on the sand next to her, glistening from the WindLight-touched waves at their feet. "It's lie-o-me, 3 syllables."
"No its not!" she stretches out her arms above her, admiring her new manicure. "It's Lee-omm, like a mantra!"
"Lie-o(n)-me" he laughs, taking her wrists and pulling her over on top of him. "See?"
"Hey!" She squirms, then straddles him, her hips resting lightly on his ... stares into his eyes ... whispers: "Liome" I've just decided to move to Liome. Raymond - tell me you have something available!
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Raymond Figtree
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12-03-2007 23:05
From: Trout Recreant I've just decided to move to Liome. Raymond - tell me you have something available! I do, but sadly, Nika is not included.
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Raymond Figtree
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12-03-2007 23:16
From: Rhaorth Antonelli and the city I spent much of my time building, with love and passion is slowly being disassembled
your point is? My Taj Mahal comment was a joke in response to this: From: Rhaorth Antonelli I was expecting something grand, spectacular etc mainly because I have seen so much good stuff said about it I was expecting something breath taking, something that would wow me, major big time, because so many ppl have described it as thus
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Arcangelo Vantelli
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12-04-2007 00:10
I am floating around at Liome right now; it's a pretty place; I wouldn't mind living there. I bet it looks nice in the Windlight viewer too. Honestly, I don't think people should apologize for their personal opinions about the looks of a sim layout. If done in a tactful and respectful manner, criticism can be a great source for self improvement. (it's how we examine our essays in college when we get into groups for peer review) If a place can be advertised and praised, it can also be critiqued. I try not to get offended and defensive when someone in my class says, "This sentence doesn't make sense to me" or "I would reword this like so" Negative feedback is ok (even if it is just opinion) as long as it is detailed as to why. Anything can be taken with a grain of salt; on my pie, however, I prefer a grain or 2 of sugar. 
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Claire Silverspar
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12-04-2007 00:49
Nicely said Arcangelo.
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Chas Connolly
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12-04-2007 01:13
From: Rhaorth Antonelli I prefer a more structured feel, with roads, stores, and such I like the city feel  You like the city feel .... in a beach sim? How very odd.
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Qie Niangao
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12-04-2007 04:56
I flew around Liome for a while last night--hadn't been since just after Ray won it at auction. It got me thinking a bit about what's viable and significant for residential rentals.
To be honest, "tropical" just isn't my thing, but Liome is quite good, IMHO, in its tropical genre. The Linden water makes it extra yummy in WindLight, of course, but it's a pleasingly laid-out sim, with some quite nice, prosperous-looking builds, and some near-fantasy structures that still fit together somehow.
I'd personally lose the sculpted-prim landscaping, only because I rez about one uncached sculpty every 10 minutes, so it all looks like ginormous cucumbers in my viewer, until I've hovered long enough to qualify as as Person of Interest on everybody's security scanners. But that's just me and my TRS-80-equivalent laptop.
And speaking of security, I didn't bonk into a banline or get threatened by the Psyke Death Squad even once while I was there. /me smiles.
But yeah: it's a residential rental sim. It's not exactly the place for monumental architecture. There are certain "theme" residential areas that can be pretty grand (e.g., Caledon; some parts of Gor), but for the "average" citizen, I think "grand" would be perceived as "grandiose." As for urban dwelling, it's just a very difficult technical challenge to amass enough prims in one location to build a compellingly dense "city" and still have enough left for tenants to rez much furniture--and then there's the problem of maintaining chat separation.
So, no, Liome's success is not really about amazing builds. Instead, I think the key is the arrangement of parcels and structures to facilitate a feeling of "privacy" while at the same time fostering a comfortable sense of community. This, I think, is really the most outstanding achievement of Liome's design.
(This is all a far cry from my much less ambitious approach of just renting out space to build a skybox wherever land is available. It's a very different market.)
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Raymond Figtree
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12-04-2007 07:03
Thanks for the thoughtful reply, Qie. You couldn't be more on target. It's a residential rental sim, not Svarga. Speaking of on target, could someone offer a beach home location other than Liome? I think we've covered everything except the manta rays for that particular sim. Give the OP more options, ffs. 
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JessyAnne Theas
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12-04-2007 07:11
From: Raymond Figtree Thanks for the thoughtful reply, Qie. You couldn't be more on target. It's a residential rental sim, not Svarga. Speaking of on target, could someone offer a beach home location other than Liome? I think we've covered everything except the manta rays for that particular sim. Give the OP more options, ffs.  pffffffffft... no. Did I mention if you live on Liome, you get Rosie?! And her sparkly friendship alone is worth whatevah rent you pay
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Raymond Figtree
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12-04-2007 07:15
From: JessyAnne Theas pffffffffft... no. Did I mention if you live on Liome, you get Rosie?! And her sparkly friendship alone is worth whatevah rent you pay Define "get".  Sparkly is a good word for her. Rosie C. is by far the best thing about Liome. You can't find a harder working, more attentive and responsive sim manager in all of SL. 
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12-04-2007 07:19
From: Raymond Figtree Define "get". Rosie C. is by far the best thing about Liome. You can't find a harder working, more attentive and responsive sim manager in all of SL.  I said "get" cause I knew it'd make her blush She has to be the best sim manager I've ever met. I love her lil weekly im's just checkin in!
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