No Naming Names?

Can someone point me to the rules that say you can't name names on the forums? The closest I can find is:

moderators will have the option of:

editing aggressively offensive personal attacks to remove those statements that violate the community standards (with an accompanying statement explaining the violation and reason for edit), please note language, such as "fraud, liar, cheater, griefer, troller, jerk, scam artist" etc is strongly discouraged, but will not be removed.

Well that doesn't say not to name names at all!

It's frowned upon.

I can't remember exactly which rule it comes under, but you will get your posts locked and edited if you do it, and that's all that matters.

would be included here

First bullet point under -

"Basic Forum Policies and Etiquette"

Oooh - Would that include the "Forum Cartel" then?

/me hides

Gomez

This is a place where customers and unpaying users of a comunications system discuss how to use the communication systems.

It's like being inside a cellphone store. You are welcome to discuss cellphones, but if you want to say ugly hateful stuff to the other customers, the management expects you to leave the store first.

No, as long as you are flattering about the Cartel members, that fine.

Thank you, Colette. But as you see--this is still only talking about post titles and about directing a discussion to a specific person, which should be a private discussion.

I think the volunteers that are deleting posts are a bit trigger happy. If someone has a legitimate problem with a resident--they should be allowed to write about it without a couple finger-shakers getting on their case. You can frown upon it, but the posts should not be deleted.

Write about it in your LiveJournal, Emo kid!*

*Jokin'

Well I don't agree completely. You can certainly say in a store that "Salesperson X" told me I would get a rebate and I never received it--without getting tossed out.

Including names in the thread posts would be covered under the " ,etc. " part. And thus still prohibited.

Basically you aren't allowed to make a thread negatively about someone. Playing games by not including it in the title , but including it in the Opening Post or subsequent posts is violating the spirit of the guideline.

Teejay - naming names is a deffo no-no. Look at it this way, how would you feel if your name was mentioned and you had a finger pointing at you, and it was entirley unjustified (from your point of view)? Your entire reputation could have been trashed whilst you were AFK. Just use common sense with this, and you will be fine.

That's not correct. The guideline you are referring to is about private conversations in public. The spirit of it has nothing to do with complaining about an individual.

And I don't mean to be argumentative with you personally, Collette. However, since you really believe this is against the TOS, please show me where it says "you are not allowed to make a thread negatively about someone".

And I don't mean that I am challenging you to find that exact quote--but the examples shown so-far have not resemled that quote at all. Please refer back to the quote I found in the guidelines:

"please note language, such as "fraud, liar, cheater, griefer, troller, jerk, scam artist" etc is strongly discouraged, but will not be removed."

I suspect that the OP has started this thread not because he/she is genuinely doubtful about the rules, but merely so he/she can debate whether the rules are right or not. Don't encourage him/her/it/them/whoever/whatever.

Well I hope I never do anything that causes someone to call me out for such a thing

However--I have been called a racist for saying that the Dutch have bad taste (LOL). I simply refuted the accusation.

I'm not up on the rules as such although I read them (recommended reading)
but I would imagine it has something to do with the fact that these are still considered official forums and LL famously do not get involved with resident-to-reisident disputes.

Just my 2c and such

Huh??? You can say 'him' when referring to me. LOL. And I am genuinely doubtful about the claims that have been made (specifically in a thread started today (not by me). I'm pretty confident there IS NO rule.

And I encourage debate and discussion about this.

We can only really say him when the person has a recongisable name that tells us their gender, which yours doesn't.

If you don't think there's a rule about it, post a thread bad mouthing someone and see what happens. Strife hasn't been online since the Kazike's thread started - it will disappear shortly.

That's precisely my point. I am trying to debate the fact that the people who have volunteered to moderate the board are feeling free to delete those posts. However--I do not believe they are right in doing so.

No one likes badmouthing--but that doesn't mean it is against the TOS.

The res mods are given the power to do it - ergo, if they do it, it must be right.

Nobody is deleting posts, except the poster themselves. Noone here has the ability to delete someone else's post.

Yeah--they do it. I've seen it, Bren. And to Conan's point--they have the power to do so. But that doesn't mean it's right. Look at it this way... if you have a group in SL and give some members permissions to ban people from your land for breaking rules, they can ban anyone--whether they break rules or not. That's what's happening here.

I'm sure whoever I gave those powers too would have a good reason for using them. "I'm sure they did something to deserve it: no smoke without fire", as I often say to canvassers for Amnesty International who try to get me to give them money to stop people being tortured.

Who other than a Moderator has abilities to delete posts, lock threads etc? Am I missing something?

As per my first post; It's frowned upon. Don't do it. End of story.