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Bec Sadofsky
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12-03-2009 10:16
Ok after having a talk with my various selves. I am in the first person with one and all. Well unless one is being mean or is pouting cause SHE didnt get to go out shopping or something then it is SHE or that darn alt.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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12-03-2009 10:19
I've talked with myselves and I've come to the realization, while listening to myself talk to myself, that I have the tendencey to speak of myself, or to myself as "Her Royal Highness Buttercup Meow the XXI".
Adhara Heartsdale
Registered User
Join date: 7 Oct 2007
Posts: 19
Says....me, myself, and I
12-03-2009 10:19
Thank you very much! I always refer to my avatar (that I am currently logged in as) in the first person. However, should I be referring to one of my other accounts (no surprise to some - perhaps a suprise to others), I often discuss them in the third person. Is that weird?

-----> goes to take a look at thread about noobs :-)
Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 5,250
12-03-2009 10:47
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Like Kay, I take your point, but let me add to her caveat the point that performativity, in my understanding of it, implies a radical instability of identity that is the result of always being in the state of "becoming" something or another through performance. I don't think that this is necessarily so very different from "we are what we wish to be," actually. A banker transplanted to Indonesia would no longer BE a banker: he would be performing a different self, and be in the process of "becoming" something else.


Point was that even as a local banker in society, the rules are all different ~ no transplanting concept necessary.

Identity (and identity politics) is always kind of mucky anyway, and so often just a minefield of misdirection. The people who always won big on such frontiers were those who looked waaaaay past identity ~ Gandhi for instance.
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Fox Marchant
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12-03-2009 10:57
hi kay....oh so we were born on the same day huh...mmmm interesting how our paths and lifestyles have somewhat deviated. Though I am an alt, so re-born is prhaps more applicable. I suppose one chooses to live their own SL and far be it for me to interfere or tell you how to do it, but can I suggest you don't use SL as an emotional crutch to support a shitty RL? From my experience, it certainly won't improve your health or state of mind.
Anyways I hope you have a great life. There are lots of good people in SL. Most of them are right here :)
Fox Marchant
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12-03-2009 10:58
hi kay....oh so we were born on the same day huh...mmmm interesting how our paths and lifestyles have somewhat deviated. Though I am an alt, so re-born is prhaps more applicable. I suppose one chooses to live their own SL and far be it for me to interfere or tell you how to do it, but can I suggest you don't use SL as an emotional crutch to support a shitty RL? From my experience, it certainly won't improve your health or state of mind.
Anyways I hope you have a great life. There are lots of good people in SL. Most of them are right here :)
Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
12-03-2009 11:05
First person for me, myself, and my other selves. "Invite me as Argent David", or "I'll be there as David or Silversten".

Third person when I'm referring to another me, when the context makes it important to distinguish between me and myself, "Invite me as Argent David, he's my group alt", or "Silversten is my banker, pay him".

Second person when I'm interacting with myself: "You always hold that extra week over me, David", or my player: "Hey, watch it, you almost walked me off that platform".
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Riseon Kosten
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12-03-2009 12:02
From: Naz Fride
I was thinking about this just before I read your post. When I am emoting I always use third person to refer to myself, and either second or third person for the person being emoted to, depending on if it's a private situation (second), or pubblic, with other folks around (third, to make sure it's clear WHOM I am emoting to.)

And I have certainly put my hand on your tush before, so stop with the shy and innocent routine. ;)



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Conifer Dada
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12-03-2009 12:29
Mostly first person. I'm quite ''I and me" in an unselfish sort of way. Occasionally I do type things like
'....can't remember what she said'
or
'...feels the cold steel of the dancepole pressed against her firm, flat bare tummy'
Nic Writer
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Join date: 25 Mar 2007
Posts: 740
12-03-2009 17:56
Normally in the first person (I, me, my) - with a few exceptions.

If I'm referring to the avatar AS the avatar. ("The SL me looks a lot like the RL me, but she has better hair and a much bigger wardrobe.";)

If I'm logged in as one account and referring to another. ("I'm doing a little decorating, but Sorcha's got all the gingerbread pavilions in her inventory.";) It sometimes gets a little weird with my closest SL friends when I start as one avatar, talk about another avatar, and then need to speak AS that avatar or the operator behind her. As Sorcha, I've felt once or twice as if I'm 'channeling' Nic with close friends.

In emoting, I find it awkward to mix third and first person. ("Nic Writer wraps her fingers in your hair and brings your lips to hers," sounds so much better than, "Nic Writer wraps her fingers in your hair and brings your lips to mine.";)

For the most part, my avatar is me, and I am she, but there are a few times when it seems appropriate to make a distinction.
Hank Ramos
Lifetime Scripter
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12-03-2009 18:10
I call it "Mr. Blinky" :D
Veritable Quandry
Meddling kid.
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12-03-2009 18:13
My serious answer is that I usually refer to VQ in the first person. My avatar is a piece of my personality...the one that can afford better clothes. There are times when our opinions and actions will differ...he refers to me as "The Typist" and I call him...um...VQ at those times.
Hank Ramos
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12-03-2009 18:17
Okay, if we have to be serious...

I refer to my avatar as me, just with a different name and a different reputation. It's just me known by a totally and completely different people with whom I probably will never be able to interact with in real life. It's not a fantasy life for me as it's just not immersive enough as it should or could be.

Okay, back to Mr. Blinky and his escapades in the old Tehama Lodge...ahh those were the days...
Void Singer
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12-03-2009 18:54
the people that say that their avatar is more "them" then the real life person behind it could be....

you people confuse me... you are saying that in real life you are potentially fake and never live up to the basic standard of being yourself.... which is a very scary proposition (and maybe says some things about your self esteem you didn't want known) there's really a lot of subtext to be read in there, and none of it is looking to good.....
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Veritable Quandry
Meddling kid.
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12-03-2009 19:00
I stand by what I said...VQ can afford clothes that I can't find/afford in RL. Have you tried to buy a good velvet frock coat lately?

Seriously though, for some people there is a freedom in being anonymous that brings out facets of their personality that they would like to explore. That can be good or bad. For others it is a way of just letting loose and playing, which can be very healthy as long as they respect the people behind the other avatars.

Personally, I am more relaxed in SL because I usually come to relax. But there is enough in my SL profile to come close to identifying me, including a link to my employer's web site, so I am not really that far removed from my avatar. In fact, I originally entered SL for professional reasons, since virtual worlds are a great tool for informal learning, and I made my appearance match my RL self as close as I could. In Caledon and on the Steamlander forums, I will make out VQ as a bit of a criminal...more of a care-free cat-burglar type, but that's more of an extended joke and source of amusement than anything else.
Pussycat Catnap
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12-03-2009 19:54
From: Kay Penberg
First person, always. Using the third person would feel odd.


This most of the time.

But when talking about differences between my avatars, or how my personality shifts when I'm on different AVs, I will third person them. Likewise when I'm talking about them as distinct from me - which depends on the conversation of course.
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-03-2009 19:57
From: Void Singer
you people confuse me... you are saying that in real life you are potentially fake and never live up to the basic standard of being yourself...
Well, yeh, my real self is a lot younger. And doesn't have a bum knee and adhesions in the back. And is shorter and fuzzier.
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Pussycat Catnap
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12-03-2009 21:29
From: Void Singer
you people confuse me... you are saying that in real life you are potentially fake and never live up to the basic standard of being yourself....

According to Buddha, that's everyone. The self is a fiction that dies every moment, when a new self is created - all of which is a form of denial of the horrid suffering of existing. Enlightenment happens when you finally deny (and overcome) the self.

Personally I'm taoist - I am what I am (but I'm not Popeye). Existence isn't to suffer, but to be enjoyed. The self is.

I don't view my avatars are more me than me, or less me than me - they are just part of me. facets of a whole.
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Jig Chippewa
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12-03-2009 21:34
Jig is just me. I think I'm much more "Jig" in real than I am here. Jig here is remarkably constrained.
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Naz Fride
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12-03-2009 22:41
From: Void Singer
the people that say that their avatar is more "them" then the real life person behind it could be....

you people confuse me... you are saying that in real life you are potentially fake and never live up to the basic standard of being yourself.... which is a very scary proposition (and maybe says some things about your self esteem you didn't want known) there's really a lot of subtext to be read in there, and none of it is looking to good.....


Thanks for the deep insight, Dr. Phil. In my particular case, my avatar is fundamentally different from my RL self, in ways that I can't really ever hope to reconcile. Chiefly gender. I'm glad you're happy with your life, and in many ways I am happy with mine. But there are some things I can't do or be in RL, and never will be able to, that are easy in SL.
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Maggie McArdle
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12-03-2009 22:56
i refer to my ava as that shopaholic boot queen.

in all seriousness, third person. she is my inner self and i live vicariously through her. in FL, i am shy and not as outgoing. plus i don't have her wardrobe. i would kill for her wardrobe.
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Jig Chippewa
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12-03-2009 23:11
Men have names for their thingie, like "Widget" and "Tony" and "LongFellow"
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-04-2009 00:24
From: Jig Chippewa
Men have names for their thingie, like "Widget" and "Tony" and "LongFellow"

Only weird men . . .
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-04-2009 00:52
From: Naz Fride
Thanks for the deep insight, Dr. Phil. In my particular case, my avatar is fundamentally different from my RL self, in ways that I can't really ever hope to reconcile. Chiefly gender. I'm glad you're happy with your life, and in many ways I am happy with mine. But there are some things I can't do or be in RL, and never will be able to, that are easy in SL.

see that's just it... right there... how can your avatar be "fundamentally different" than your RL self, yet also "more you" than your real life self????

improved, I can understand. even idealized, or what you dream of..... but MORE just doesn't make sense to me....

and for the record, my Av isn't a literal copy of me either... she has better hair, perkier breasts, a slimmer waist, etc (when she's human)... she's still me, just a bit more idealized than the RL me.

a BETTER you makes sense to me... but to me, nothing can be MORE you.
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Kay Penberg
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12-04-2009 01:27
From: Nic Writer
In emoting, I find it awkward to mix third and first person. ("Nic Writer wraps her fingers in your hair and brings your lips to hers," sounds so much better than, "Nic Writer wraps her fingers in your hair and brings your lips to mine.";)


I think you're quite right: it does look awkward to mix them in a situation like that.

But I'm going to have to reveal my naivety again: what is emoting? I am really new to SL, and haven't used any chat applications prior to it. When is emoting used? Is it for RP, or is that how emotionally close people in SL interact?

I'm trying to learn, so I have to ask self-embarrassing questions at times.
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