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Banning and Bad Faith

Pserendipity Daniels
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08-20-2009 03:19
From: Lindal Kidd
There was another thread, months back, about a Japanese sim discriminating against non-Japanese. This may be more of the same.

I love Japanese culture, but there is a deep distrust of the gaijin that runs through it.

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Is Skell on your ignore list now? Or are you not bothering to read even one page threads? :p

Pep (I'm not surprised that the Japanese distrust gaijin if you are an example. ;) )
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Pserendipity Daniels
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08-20-2009 03:20
From: Ricardo Harris
Maybe he been spending time with what's-his-name and his Pep monkey.
:confused:

Pep (You are normally comprehensible even if reprehensible; not this time. )

PS Is your owner leaning on your space key as you type or do you just like to blow up your posts to make them seem more important?
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Shu Zemenis
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08-20-2009 03:22
I just got my own plot, and i don't think i will ever put even a security orb on the place.
Just dont' see the need of restricting everyone else to the land.

RL has enough of these precautions for me to need to bring them over to SL.
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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08-20-2009 03:34
From: Pserendipity Daniels

PS Is your owner leaning on your space key as you type or do you just like to bloat your posts to make them seem more important?




fixed it for ya...
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Pserendipity Daniels
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08-20-2009 03:43
From: 23rdDjin Negulesco
fixed it for ya...

But . . .but . . . but . . .you lost the intentional ambiguity of meaning of the phrase "blow up"! :eek:

Pep (Transatlantic miscomprehension of "bomb" also amuses me. :D )
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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08-20-2009 03:55
From: Pserendipity Daniels
But . . .but . . . but . . .you lost the intentional ambiguity of meaning of the phrase "blow up"! :eek:

Pep (Transatlantic miscomprehension of "bomb" also amuses me. :D )


did not! it's still there in your original post!
i had simply been noting that, with each exhalation, he adds to his bloat.


(the transatlantic miscomprehension of "bomb" IS amusing. you'll note how much of the various BBCs are filled with American programming... :D )
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Iyoba Tarantal
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12-06-2009 15:25
I am resurrecting this old thread on purpose.

Last night around 1:35am, Iyoba was walking around the Company Name Withheld (but in the same company as the sim where she was banned from a parcel -- and unbanned some weeks later) last summer. She went into a club that now occupies an old chat campatorium, and had a saki. She was by herself. There were two other avatarim on the sim. She never saw either of them. She drank her saki and then I detached the cup and signed out.

I logged in again to find Iyoba somewhere on Zindra. When she tried to teleport back to the sim. She had no teleport access. When she tried several other destinations on the same continent (It's a private group of attached islands) she had no luck.

As of this evening, I suspect Iyoba has a continent wide ban on the doughnut shaped continent that must go nameless. Go figure! She quite literally did nothing but wander into an empty bar and have a drink. This is the biggest ban I've ever earned in all my time in SL and by far the most gratuitious. Blech!
Ciaran Laval
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12-06-2009 18:57
If you're region banned the message tells you that you don't have access to the sim or something along those lines, it's clear from the message that you're banned.
Iyoba Tarantal
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12-06-2009 19:15
The message said "no teleport access..." It looked like a banning.

Oddly enough, Iyoba once again has access. She is inworld on one of the islands in the group and riding the world's slowest ferris wheel. I suspect the ban was temporary and not personal.
Kira Cuddihy
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12-06-2009 20:15
Sometimes people close their sims down to access when they are doing work on it. That might be what is happening to You.
Iyoba Tarantal
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12-06-2009 20:36
I suspect that's what it was, Kira. The ferris wheel and the rollercoaster were both new and fantastic. I wish I could brag about where I've been but hey no name and shame also means no free advertisements.
Tegg Bode
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12-06-2009 22:45
From: Iyoba Tarantal
A week ago last Sunday I got banned from a parcel. This is a time when I wish I could name and shame the owners; for it is the only remedy I have besides blowing off steam. Yes, the parcel is private property. Everything except Linden Land is private property in SL.

That said, this was NOT somebody's home. It was a restaurant/cafe in a Japanese speaking sim. I use a Simbolic translator which does an awful job but is better than nothing.

Until a week ago Sunday, Iyoba always found the restaurant empty except for a cat sofa, a rabbit sofa, and an otter sofa on the front lawn. The otter and bunny were fine creatures and Iyoba liked them well enough, but the black cat, SBE Kitty (stands for sweet brown eyed Kitty) soon become another of Iyoba's good kitty friends.

Well a week ago Sunday morning there were actual avatarim in the cafe. They asked Iyoba if she knew that this was Japanese sim. Of course she knew. They also asked her if she knew what [NAME WITHHELD] was. Iyoba replied that there was a very famous rabbi martyred by the Romans in the first Century C.E, but she doubted the sim was named for him. Instead, she said it was probably named for somewhere in Japan. Iyoba shares my view that naming sims for places in the real world shows zero imagination.

I then went to the bathroom in real life and when I came out, Iyoba was on the street banned. The ban lines extend up 800 m. Iyoba protested. She was hardly griefing. Yes, her Japanese is awful (machine translation) but she can't do anything about it. They offered to let Iyoba back in if she joined a group. She refused because it was a store update group and Iyoba is full up on groups. We also both figured that Iyoba would be able to get back inside after what appeared to be a private meeting was over, though I thought it strange that the avatarim didn't just ask her to leave. I was not in the bathroom that long.

By Sunday night, Iyoba learned that the ban is permanent. If you have ever heard your avatar cry, I heard Iyoba have a class one melt down. The thought of it still hurts. Last night, Iyoba learned she had been banned from the store next door to the cafe where she has been once or twice. Don't ask me why? Someone is just ban happy. Iyoba can stand outside the ban lines and cam in and look at SBE Kitty, and yse she still talks to her kitty friend through the fence.

I also made Iyoba a cat sofa (a kitty friend) of her own. His name is Goofy Boy and he is a chinchilla which is good because replacing a kitty friend is not a great idea.

I realize there is nothing I can do. Iyoba tried complaining to others on the sim to see if they knew a way to negotiate Iyoba out of the ban. I don't believe this is AR able because a restaurant may be a public accomodation but it is still private property. That said, I very much believe the cafe owners acted in bad faith. Worse yet, I doubt I will ever respond in kind even though I have the opportunity. There are Japanese stores and cafes all over Hartley and Steponyvich where I have land. Be careful whom you ban. They could some day be your neighbors.

Perhaps if your friend Iyoba is really worried about it they can post something themselves. Perhaps the 2 of you can just find somewhere else to visit instead, there's 15,000 other sims around and if they keep kicking people out then they won't last long.
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Fox Marchant
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12-07-2009 00:59
blech......being banned for purely arbitary reasons is no big deal, don't take it personally. Even if you were unfortunate enough to get yourself banned from one sim in sl every week, it would take over 500 years....get over yourself................
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