Non-entry due to no age verification.....

Ahh, thanks Colette, I totally missed that.

Back when LL first rolled out this age-verify stuff, I went ahead and verified. I then purposefully went to a parcel that I knew had been flagged for the age verification stuff (my landlord had flagged one of his parcels). Using a pre 1.19 viewer, I always got the message about the alerts.xml file. For the longest time, with the 1.19 viewers it was still not recognizing my age verification and would give me the message saying so. Then they rolled out some server fix and all was good for a while, until another server fix seemed to allow the problem to come back again. And then it was fixed again.......... So, it seems like maybe their latest round of server changes has once again broken it.

When I get inworld this evening, I'll go back to the parcel I was messing with, using all of my different versions of the viewer - one is 1.18.5.3 - and check things again. If the problem has returned, I'll add a note here and reopen the JIRA on the issue.

If you want to check the parcel yourself, look up the Flamingo Motel in Juanita (I think that is it). You could also search old posts of mine because there were a couple of threads discussing all of these issues.

Lol since i know the anniversary is coming up soon I went and looked up the original verification announcement.

May 4, 2007.

http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/04/age-and-indentity-verification-in-second-life/

Must be a seriously high priority issue.

Ah ok....I had originally explained (in exasperation) that I was age verified...but Colette cleared it up before I got back to it Sorry about that.

Well shame on me for having not read that *rolls eyes* however my comment was not specifically directed

All griefers are not underage indiviuals. I know many people believe the age thing will keep them out but it's not the case.

I will not take part in this as I refuse to put this on any place I own. I honestly don't see this as doing anything good other then annoying and wasting time to sl residents.

Why should we? What are we getting out of this ridiculous idea? It's doing exactly what? What are the benefits? It will stop griefers? Griefers aren't just underage people nor are they just people with no info on file.

They're doing this just as they did with the attendance of sl, just for show. To show the world [corporations included] they're doing something. To show lots of people played on here when we all know they were mostly alts of people already here. And now this to show no underage kids are on here.

Sounds like what has happened - broken again.

Update: Downloaded Windlight (which is what my partner was using last night when he had no problem getting into the area I was barred from). Not only can I still not get in, NOW I get a message saying I cannot even enter the parcel at all as I am not on the access list. LOL Apparently I experimented one too many times.

Also, my partner went over there with me, also on the same WL viewer he was on last night, and now is getting the alerts.xml messages as well.

We both went over to Qie's place - and neither of us can get in there either.

Conclusion - Age verification currently borked.

Twosteppin: I would be interested to see how your tests turn out tonight. And I will be the first one over to sign the JIRA

QFT!!!!

Once the age verification system is in place, only those Residents with verified age will be able to access adult content in Mature areas. Any Resident wishing to access adult content will have to prove they are over 18 in real life.We have created Teen Second Life for minors under the age of 18.



Above is part of the message posted regarding this age verification. Now if you read it you'll see it says only the people who verify their ages will have access to adult areas.

Now, give this some thought for a second. By saying and doing this aren't they implying underage people are also in sl? Isn't it suppose to be just for adults? And we all know it is so therefore, if sl is for adults then why are we being asked to verify anything?

Its all part of the process to eventually allow minors onto the main grid.

If you think about it from that perspective, all of the Age verification stuff makes sense.

Last we tuned in, neither my Partner nor I could get on either the original island or Qie's testing spot. My Partner crashed, and when he returned at Qie's place, he was able to get in just fine!

So for giggles, I logged off, relogged back into the sim...and was "also" able to get into the same area that 5 minutes prior I was told I wasn't age-verified.

I just have to laugh about this. For me, it was just an irritation after I went through the age verification process. For others, this erratic behavior on this issue could hurt business.

That's honestly a frightening thought. (O_O)

Here are the results using myself (age-verified) and my Alt (not age verified):

Part of this does not make sense and the results are listed in the order everything was tried.

Initially, using the older 1.18.5.3 viewer, with Nicholaz BE-v: We both get the message about the alerts.xml file and cannot enter the flagged parcel and neither of us see any "no entry" ban lines.

Using the Official Release 1.19.0.5 viewer: I can enter the parcel and my Alt cannot, and she does see the "no entry" ban lines.

Using the Dazzle 1.19.0.80267 viewer: I can enter the parcel and my Alt cannot, but she does NOT see any "no entry" ban lines.

Using the Release Candidate 1.19.1.1 Viewer: I can enter the parcel and my Alt cannot, and she does see the "no entry" ban lines.

Using the older 1.18.5.3 viewer, without Nicholaz: I can enter the parcel and my Alt cannot. She gets the message about the alerts.xml file and she does see the "no entry" ban lines.

Again, using the older 1.18.5.3 viewer, with Nicholaz BE-v: Now I can enter the parcel and my Alt still cannot. She still gets the message about the alerts.xml file and she does see the "no entry" ban lines.

Needless to say, if a parcel if flagged, then I think it is probably a crap shoot as to what your results will be. Hopefully you won't actually want to go to a flagged parcel very often until they get the whole mess fixed.

I thought this was an old bug? I remember getting this on a previous client and it did stop me accessing plots.

So did I, when i could provide details I was comfortable providing them. When they tightened it up to ask for details that they have no right to verify, I decided my alts won't be age verified. I'm happy to provide fit for purpose information, I'm not providing information that the company doing the verification have no official means of verifying.

Consider this article on Massively a few days ago:

http://www.massively.com/2008/03/11/how-many-times-do-you-have-to-prove-it/

This whole age-verification thing is a farce.

I have no issues verifying my age or identity. I'm a happy pervert and really dig my porn and couldn't care less which FBI file that gets me into.

I just have some questions that I can't find answers for, even if the system ever works the way it is intended, which is to prevent non-verified residents from accessing or viewing adult/mature/nasty-nasty material in world. Fine and cool, I'm completely ok with that as a policy.

But I still don't get how that's going to stop a non-verified resident from pumping their draw-distance up to max and alt-clicking their screen view to see inside the restricted parcel on the mainland. Hell, in some places they could even be in a PG sim and do this.

Ok, I know this whole thing is just some smoke LL is blowing in pedophiles hunters faces, but wouldn't it be nice if just once LL would think a thing all the way thru before hacking it into the client?

I wonder if age verified land keeps people out better the no access banlines do?
Or when someone will find a way to sneak into age verified land like they do with no access banlines.
Though it sucks that you would age verify i.e give out personal information lot of people believe no one needs to know except in case of finical and tax matters and yet you risk giving this information and it still doesn't work.

Most of the "official documents" (and of which I have no problem to us them on the Internet) were claimed by the process as not useable.... and no, I won't throw my passport number over the Internet (it is stated very clearly in it that I am not allowed to do so... see the 10823746364 other threads on this subject).

Note: I am not a US citizen (I'm from The Netherlands).

Morwen.

Thank you for posting the results of your tests with various viewers/combos.




That pretty well sums it up. At least I'm satisfied that LL didn't just somehow bork up my particular info. Sounds like we're all in the same leaky LL boat.

Yeah...that's what got me on this rampage in the first place. One tries to "follow the rules" and it *still* doesn't work.