SL set my land for sale. Mild heart attack. Not many dead. Anybody seen this happen?
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Sling Trebuchet
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03-24-2008 07:52
Kinrara sim has been put on the market. My group has contiguous parcels in Nebo sim, which touches the NW corner of Kinrara. Ownership of Kinrara and our Nebo land has not changed since last August, when those sims came out of auction and were resold. I have always lusted for Kinrara. Like in the Great Gatsby, I can sit in Nebo and gaze across the water to Kinrara  So anyway, this morning I click on Map, and my corner plot in Nebo is YELLOW!! ZOMG! TP from MAP DOUBLE ZOMG!! I land in the middle of strange builds TRIBLE ZOMG!!! Someone's already bought it and built??? Nope. For some reason I've landed way up to the NW of my corner parcel. Get over there, and click About Land. Yup. It's for sale. 3760m of lovely double-protected waterfront and a bargain at only L$1,575,000 Hang on! That price seems oddly familiar. Ah! All the land settings apart from the land area are a precise clone of the settings for Kinrara sim. Descriptiom options, photo, media, the lot. Everything in About Land apart from the area is as for Kinrara - including the landing point settings and coordinates - which explained how I got landed to the NW when I TPed from map. I cancelled the 'sale'. Probably a bit unnecessary as it probably wouldn't have been bought at that price *sigh* - talk about mixed feelings if it did  Rather unfortunately, SL hadn't decided to set me as the owner of Kinrara. Bummer! The question is: What if my parcel had picked up the settings of a cheap 512? Would there have been anyway for me to prove that I didn't make a mistake in setting land for sale? Has anyone else seen this sort of thing happen? I took screen shots of the About Land and Map. I've raised a Support Ticket, but even at Concierge level, I have 'New' tickets sitting in the queue for a week and a half. Scarey!!
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Nina Stepford
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03-24-2008 07:56
not exactly the same issue, but maybe a year ago there was a one day period where all the plots i had bought within the previous 24 hours set themselves for sale at the price i had bought them for.
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Matthew Dowd
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03-24-2008 08:00
Maybe related to this bug (the repro given by Alvargi Daniels sounds pretty close to your situation - i.e. parcel on edge of sim adopting parcel settings from a different sim): http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-936It may be worth adding your experiences to that. I'd also suggest raising its priority given that this can also effect the for sale status of a parcel but this bug is already at showstopper level! Matthew
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Hugsy Penguin
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03-24-2008 08:01
Who has the capability to set that land for sale? If it's just you, then perhaps you could get them to look at their logs to check a couple things: when were you logged in? and when was the land set for sale. You can't set land for sale without being logged in.
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3Ring Binder
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03-24-2008 08:04
OMG! i would have totally freaked. my neighbors are chomping at the bit to get my land, and i would be devastated to lose it accidentally.
so glad you have it worked out.
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Rioko Bamaisin
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03-24-2008 08:06
Wow, that is just scary... /me runs in to check her land....
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Sling Trebuchet
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03-24-2008 08:12
From: Hugsy Penguin Who has the capability to set that land for sale? If it's just you, then perhaps you could get them to look at their logs to check a couple things: when were you logged in? and when was the land set for sale. You can't set land for sale without being logged in.
--Hugsy Nope. It was absolutely an SL bork! Everything!! in About Land , apart from the Owner and the land area, was a precise clone of the Kinrara settings. I don't even have to check what anyone else might have done. It would have been impossible for anyone to set the landing cordinates to a pair of x,y 's that belonged in a parcel belonging to somebody else in the sim
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3Ring Binder
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03-24-2008 08:14
but if it had sold........ 
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Hugsy Penguin
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03-24-2008 08:19
From: Sling Trebuchet Nope. It was absolutely an SL bork! Everything!! in About Land , apart from the Owner and the land area, was a precise clone of the Kinrara settings. I don't even have to check what anyone else might have done. It would have been impossible for anyone to set the landing cordinates to a pair of x,y 's that belonged in a parcel belonging to somebody else in the sim Ah, I wasn't clear. I was responding to the question: "Would there have been anyway for me to prove that I didn't make a mistake in setting land for sale?" and was suggesting they check the logs. My mistake, sorry. --Hugsy
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Kathy Morellet
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03-24-2008 08:28
Don't know if this is related and I haven't been able to reproduce it but...
Last night I was flying around my home sim just checking on things. While floating above a neighbors lot, I right clicked a lot in the next sim over just to have a look at the About Land info there.
When I returned to my own home, much to my surprise, the name of my home parcel had changed to that of the lot I had just looked at in the other sim. In fact, every setting, other than size and ownership, was exactly the same as that other parcel.
As I said, I have not been able to repro this effect so I haven't tried to report it on JIRA but it was very disconcerting. And, only the parcel my home is set on was affected, all of my other parcels were fine.
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Sling Trebuchet
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03-24-2008 08:32
From: Matthew Dowd Maybe related to this bug (the repro given by Alvargi Daniels sounds pretty close to your situation - i.e. parcel on edge of sim adopting parcel settings from a different sim): http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-936It may be worth adding your experiences to that. I'd also suggest raising its priority given that this can also effect the for sale status of a parcel but this bug is already at showstopper level! Matthew http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1034 is the one to hit on this It's referenced from SVC-936
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Sindy Tsure
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03-24-2008 09:03
Dunno if it's related but there may be other variations to this, too. Last week, huge chunks of my _mainland_ home went away. EVERY group-deeded (deeded.. not set) object on the sim was deleted. EVERY non-group object on the sim set to the parcel owner was either returned or deleted. There are a number of spots on the sim where people had houses with some prim litter on their lawn - these areas no longer have houses but the litter remains. Basically, every owner-owned object on the entire sim - 30 or so parcels between 15-20 different residents - went away. I managed to talk to a couple neighbors about this and the 2 who had objects returned both say that the Acquired date/time was the same. I asked the estate manager for a rollback. From: LL I'm sorry but we can't rollback mainland. There was a parcel change that precipitated a cascading prim return. Parcels that are group owned normally show 0 for the Owner unless objects are Deeded to a group. I only see the returns on parcels owned by your communities groups. It does appear a land transaction there caused this.
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Sling Trebuchet
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03-24-2008 10:53
I raised a Support Ticket at 7:15 PDT I've just received an email from LL saying that a tech team is working on it. That would be a 3.5 hour response. The JIRA that they associate with the issue is http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1034
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Nimue Jewell
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03-24-2008 12:36
From: Sling Trebuchet I raised a Support Ticket at 7:15 PDT I've just received an email from LL saying that a tech team is working on it. That would be a 3.5 hour response. The JIRA that they associate with the issue is http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1034Voted. Yikes, this bug is scary. After hearing about it I looged in just to be sure all was well at home.
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Cristalle Karami
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03-24-2008 16:04
Voted. That's hair raising. I can't imagine my land going up for sale without my permission.
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Avion Raymaker
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03-26-2008 12:49
This is a serious problem, and is still happening. Just this morning I had 3/4 of a sim take on the settings of a parcel in the neighboring sim. If that had been a 512 parcel for sale, it would have been a major disaster for me, and a windfall for some landbot.
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Charmeine Tomsen
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03-26-2008 15:50
This happened to me a day or so ago. I almost had a heart attack when a friend asked me why I was selling my shop. It corrected itself fortunately before a land bot got it and before I got home from work and could get online. Since then, I have appointed an extremely trusted friend as able to manipulate my objects. In the future should this happen that person can uncheck the for sale button. Dayam it was scary!
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Argos Hawks
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03-26-2008 20:04
From: Charmeine Tomsen This happened to me a day or so ago. I almost had a heart attack when a friend asked me why I was selling my shop. It corrected itself fortunately before a land bot got it and before I got home from work and could get online. Since then, I have appointed an extremely trusted friend as able to manipulate my objects. In the future should this happen that person can uncheck the for sale button. Dayam it was scary! The ability to manipulate your objects won't help with this. You would need to deed the land to a group, and give your friend the ability to sell the groups land.
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Raymond Figtree
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03-26-2008 21:05
From: Charmeine Tomsen This happened to me a day or so ago. I almost had a heart attack when a friend asked me why I was selling my shop. It corrected itself fortunately before a land bot got it and before I got home from work and could get online. Since then, I have appointed an extremely trusted friend as able to manipulate my objects. In the future should this happen that person can uncheck the for sale button. Dayam it was scary! What price was the land set for per meter?
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Raymond Figtree
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03-26-2008 21:07
From: Avion Raymaker This is a serious problem, and is still happening. Just this morning I had 3/4 of a sim take on the settings of a parcel in the neighboring sim. If that had been a 512 parcel for sale, it would have been a major disaster for me, and a windfall for some landbot. This is a major bug. Are any bot runners reporting getting bargains as a result of this wierdness? Elanthius would speak up if he was getting some of these mistakes, if they are indeed set low enough to trigger bot activity.
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Ravenhurst Xeno
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03-26-2008 23:13
From: Avion Raymaker This is a serious problem, and is still happening. Just this morning I had 3/4 of a sim take on the settings of a parcel in the neighboring sim. If that had been a 512 parcel for sale, it would have been a major disaster for me, and a windfall for some landbot. Are you sure your land is actually taking on the attributes of the other parcel? Frequently when i click 'about land' for a plot, it will show me the information for the previous plot i that i clicked 'about land' on. Even if that plot was a long time and several TP's ago. But if i wait a few seconds and click 'about land' again, i always get the correct plot information. If that is not the case and plot information really is getting mixed up, that would be a major scary bug. But if something that major were wrong, i suspect we would have heard more about it by now.
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Elanthius Flagstaff
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03-26-2008 23:13
From: Raymond Figtree This is a major bug. Are any bot runners reporting getting bargains as a result of this wierdness? Elanthius would speak up if he was getting some of these mistakes, if they are indeed set low enough to trigger bot activity. It's not happening. What I am seeing a lot (and be careful to avoid mixing the two isues) is that the About Land pane can take several minutes to update. During those minutes the pane will be filled with the data of the previous parcel you looked at. Especially after teleporting it takes a very long time for the About Land pane to start filling out correctly. You can even click Cancel and appear to cancel land sales for parcels you are nowhere near so it can be very convincing. This all started since they switched parcel data over to caps a few weeks ago.
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Sling Trebuchet
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03-27-2008 01:49
It's happened. Definitely. Twice to me.
I'm familiar with the occasional 'feature' where the About Land details are those of the last place one looked/clicked at.
In my case, I logged in at a different sim and looked at the map. My parcel was yellow on the map. Hence the heart attack. I asked a friend who was on a different continent to look at her map. The parcel was yellow for her. She had not been anywhere near the parcel. And no, the parcel was not on sale and had never been on sale since I bought it back in August.
Guy and Amber come to the land after the second time this happened. The owner of Kinrara was there also. Everyone could see the cloned settings.
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Elanthius Flagstaff
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03-27-2008 01:54
Sorry Sling, I didn't mean to say your problem isn't happening, I can't comment on that at all. I simply meant I haven't bought anything from anyone who claimed they never set their land for sale.
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Sling Trebuchet
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03-27-2008 02:45
Well, I'm still pissed that nobody bought my parcel for L$1.5M + Yer a bunch of cheapskates!!!!
I still have visions of the yellow patch on the map. OyOy !
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