We are getting stealth mode!!!!!

You know full well there are plenty of introverts who have and want freinds, but need times to themselves for doing non-social-interaction.

By the way, introverts are not anti-social. Neither is anyone seeking a bit of solitude for other reasons. The term "Anti-Social" is about folks who prefer to break social bonds over building them.

I'd be far more enthusiastic if LL decided to add online status to the friends list. Indicate Away, Busy, Do Not Disturb, etc on the friends list instead of an akward all or nothing deal.

I don't mind that everyone can see whether I'm online or not, I mind that I get disturbed at times when I'm busy with something. A selective online would be a welcome addition to that for those who still wouldn't get it, but without the indicators it's not much of a feature in my opinion.

The last time they messed with the friends list (showing the ones online all the way at the top) is the time that we all started to have presence issues as well. Part of me thinks they added this only so they can go "all your friends don't like you and put you on invisible" now instead of "yes, we're having presence problems" .

I totally agree.


What I personally would wish for is only my friends being able to see that I'm online, without having to activate the busy mode, which is next to useless since it hides the spatial chat. I'd like to sit at a bar and chat while being invisible to the rest of the world except for my friends. People who IM me should get the "...is currently offline" message, but I'd like to be able to view my IMs nonetheless, to decide if something is urgent.

Basically - I want a telephone. I'd like to see who's calling me before I accept the call. And I don't want anyone to know that I'm home until I pick up the phone. Should be the standard, btw. We could get rid of the presence database altogether. The notification when a friend comes online or logs off shouldn't need a presence database.

I am one of those. That's why I pick my friends very, very carefully. 99% of the people who offer me friendship are told "Hey, I really like you, but only persons who live at my house should know when I come and go". That's only realistic, imho, doesn't mean I don't value them as friends.

That's why I don't understand that not only my friends but the whole world can see when I'm online if they search for my name. It's outright creepy. The busy mode is useless there, since it keeps me from chatting with nearby people.

It's hindsight that's 20/20, Lewis.

I friend anybody and everybody - how *good* of a friend, I don't quantify with a list.

Map me? Sure, go ahead. Gee, look, there's Desmond, hovering frozen for an hour handling IM's! Ooh, look, now he's deeding a parcel to somebody! About as exciting as watching paint dry.

In fact, when I hit about a dozen concurrent IM's, I start tp'ing as many people as possible to my location. Usually about 1/2 or 2/3 come, and then kinda get the picture that I can talk in a group but not handle 12 rapid, distinct conversations.

Problem is on my clientside, so Desmond-lag won't affect anyone unless they are trying to make rapid repeated text calls to my database...

I think someone has "The insider's" perspective with regards to hindsight.

But anyway...

Lewis- I'm a helpful sort... and greet 5 to 15 newbies a day. I don't decline offers of friendship when they come, and extend friendship often as well... and express that folks are welcome to IM me for particle questions or about my area whenever they like.

Most seem to get the point and stick to the topic when they IM me later. Some take it a bit futher, they're nice people and I don't want to alienate them... but I just don't want to be their "Bestest friend in SecondLife" because that road results in me having no time or concentration left over for the things I love most in SL.... which is mainly tinkering.

If I can sneak online... wade through my IM backlog, without several people starting new IM sessions wanting to know what I had for breakfast, and how was it? will you have the same tomorrow? ... it would be a blessing.

I'm quite fond of my friends in SL. I just don't want a telepathic message sent to everyone I know saying "Jopsy Pendragon Just Woke up!" every single time I log on. All it does is encourage me to stay logged off until I'm feel up to being that chatty.

Please... do try again at explaining how this is some sort of griefer tool.

Depends on the painter... Joe house painter? Or Leonardo DaVinci?

Your parcels certainly wouldn't fall in the first category.

Jopsy makes as good a case (two posts up) as any I have ever heard for this thing.

For me, it won't make much difference. I'm generally at one of two places anyway, so if they don't see me on line they could always come look for me! haha

There wouldn't be any point in this for me anyway, though. If they're my customers, I want to hear from them at the earliest moment possible. If they're good friends on my friends list, then I want to be available to them always. (If I'm on a pressing deadline, I just say so.) If they are new people on my friends list, not-that-close friends on my friends list, or even accidental friendings on my friends, I still want to be available to say Hi and in general develop the friendship.

(I recognize that not everybody feels like that, and, what's worse, a "Hi" gotten during some intimate passion times, if you have those, can really spoil the mood. And then it's embarassing to have to explain why you really can't talk now.)

I like my answering machine on at home on my phone, too, but (a) I don't think of SL as my home (I tend to think I'm already out and about just to be in SL) and (b) telemarketers are the problem at home, but haven't been a problem to me in SL.

I really don't quite understand how this will work, though. I'm assuming that you can make it so NOBODY can see you are online, through ANY mechanism, including find. Is that correct? How about through a group you are in, which shows that person as online in the membership list?

I will take the opportunity to state here that if anyone sees me offline, it means I AM ACTUALLY OFFLINE, for God's sake. Please, customers, friends, whoever - don't start thinking I just have myself on this friends-mute or find-mute or whatever. Or worse, that I have it that way to you personally.

As for anyone who uses this extensively, and does appear to be offline a lot, I will just have to assume that individual is no longer in SL much.

coco

I look at this and I see it as great, more asset calls, more traffic, more lag on a system that can't even handle what we currently have without the massive problems that are occuring. So now not only when you login will it do a avatar check on each person on your friends list to see who can see and who can't, but it checks all your friends to see if your allowed to see them or not, every time you TP bang there goes the list of checks again, I admit I love the idea, and have wanted it for a while but not at the cost of worse performance in the game. Please LL, stop adding new features and FIX the current system.

I have no clue how to use it myself if we already have it.
I have friends one in particular who I like dearly but removed because they told me they were going offline and they weren't honest enough to say hey I am busy can we talk later and I didn't want to bother when they appeared online but really weren't
Truthfully I have met few great people I have talk to when I am here but most of time where ever I go its just ghost town or the people are so offensive I wouldn't want them as friends.
Yet sometimes I added other newbies to help because I know how it is to be literally stuck and not sure where to go for answers and friendly person to chat with.
There are times I just don't want to talk to anyone except build personally, I am not here to have cyber sex unless I got real dollars for it and not lindens.
There are times in my other online game I play when you have too many friends it gets to be hassle when you don't want to be online.
Truthfully I would love better way to connect socially in world and have control over when I get messages. I hate the way the groups set up is too. Either there no one chatting or no one to talk too, or too much at the wrong time and or if you do talk in group setting some angry group member signs on and say we are spamming them.

Maybe your friend really did go to bed, and left their avatar camping?
Maybe your friend has been wondering why you never say hi anymore, and dropped them as a friend?

yeah maybe i just learned about camping. LOL
It wasn't you lovely Winter exactly I was talking of, but I do still have you in my cards just don't have you on friendship so I don't bug you when I see you there so I don't bother you with all my newbie questions,etc. I figure if you want to talk to me you'd look me up.
I have written you because I thought I was bugging you too much. LOL
There few people I don't even remember who they are but I do remember you and Angelique.
I don't message Angelique any more because I figure she busy either. I don't like being pest.

let the people you talk to decide when you're being a pest.

Preemptively dropping people because you're AFRAID you might bother them.. is a great way to end up alone.

Silly.

Hey, I just don't want people busting in on me in the shower.

That's what you get for watching "Psycho" a few times too often.

Yeah. It's my fault for putting those specific pose balls there. Blame the victim.

Hey if someone volunteers to make the animation of raised knife and reach out and pull shower curtain back. I can make a script to pull the shower curtain back after recieving a message from a poseball that can only be activated by a stranger that is not on the access list and with no payment info on file

That happens whenever you find someone's profile in a way other then your friends list or with the Search tool.

I'm going to love these new features.

I wish my "friends" were as clued-in as yours are. Some of mine are newbies from my large group, who, when they hear one too many times that I'm busy with many IM windows, or with a large meeting, and will get to them *when I can*, decide I dislike them and go away. Until they "get it" about SL, I need times of total stealth from them, just to avoid giving them the wrong idea.

To all the nae sayers: I bet many child molesters and rapists using AIM, MSN and Yahoo keep themselves Invisable at most times... I wan't and welcome this feature along with the other new features like the chat history URL links. If you don't want it then don't use it. I get very anoyed when i'm busy working on something and 5 people IM me.

I get frustrated when i log in and i haven't even rezzed yet, but already getting IMs from people wanting to touch me in places or just saying hi... For a long time i have wished my SL Friends List was more like yahoo. Now it is. 1.13 is bringing us a whole 5H17 load of features. Broken they might be... We don't know till a heavy load of people try to use them.

It's about time LL does something like this cuz they don't have a lot of fame with their customers right now. So i gota say thank you LL and all the people who have fought (including me) with votes, suggestions, and demands to get this.

I'm not looking forward to that one. Right now there's the barrier that any URL has to be copy/pasted into a browser, remove that barrier and you're just asking for people to come and spam (phishing) sites in-world because just promise a free something and you know plenty of people are going to be clicking it.

I have somebody who constantly maps to me and I don't have the heart to tell him to quit. This is a big help, thanks LL!

Um, I think everyone is missing something, this isn't just to hide from your friends, you can now appear offline to everyone:



Anyone who has tried to build or script or just do something without interruption for a while will appreciate this. Until now we either had to go into busy mode, which causes a host of problems or just seem rude. I have no idea how this would help greifers in any way.

Me neither.

In fact, wouldn't it be more likely for it to help people avoid griefers? I mean, afterall, if they don't know you're online...