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Negative Ratings-Has it gone to far?

Polly Cassidy
Registered User
Join date: 26 Dec 2003
Posts: 29
08-12-2004 10:59
Last Night a friend was negative rated and we had no idea who this person was. We checked her profile and she had given 9 neg ratings, we checked..I KID YOU NOT, 30 minutes later and she had given 64 negative ratings. We assume this is a alt account. Hasn't this negative rating system gotten out of hand? To easy to use a temp account and neg rate someone numerous times. Does anyone else think this should be abolished or revamped, any ideas?
Merwan Marker
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Join date: 28 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,706
08-12-2004 11:08
Did you contact a Linden directly?
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Aaron Levy
Medicated Lately?
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,147
08-12-2004 11:56
Was her name Mia?
Cybin Monde
Resident Moderator (?)
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,468
it really won't matter soon enough..
08-12-2004 13:18
as i mentioned in Korg's thread, neg ratings will soon be a thing of the past. i have read enough to know that the Lindens are working hard on a replacement system that will (hopefully) do away with the current system and introduce a much more meaningful system.. one that will more truly reflect a persons influence on the society of SL.

so.. just let it roll off your back. it'll all be groovy soon enough.

(but i will say, i agree that this persons account should be put under review and potentially suspended/revoked.. negative people are not conducive to SL)
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Princess Medici
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Join date: 1 Mar 2004
Posts: 416
08-12-2004 13:18
From: someone
Originally posted by Merwan Marker
Did you contact a Linden directly?


Polly doesn't frequent the forums, so I'll answer this one for her. :)

Yes, she contacted LL, I believe she spoke with Jeska, and was told that nothing would be done, it was a resident dispute, blah blah blah.

And I don't remember the person's name, but I don't think it was Mia, although it was a female name.
Aaron Levy
Medicated Lately?
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,147
08-12-2004 14:50
I asked if it was someone named Mia cause Mia L***** neg'd me for being a land baron (I own one 2544m parcel of land). Her profile had no other feedback except 68 negatives given, and her account was created in July.
Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
08-12-2004 18:15
This persons initials are EB. Easy enough to find out who she is. She is the only person with those initials who has given out that many negs. No others even come close. She is the alt av of some coward or griefer.
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Archaegeo Platini
Ancient Earth University
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 152
08-12-2004 20:16
Non-Paying accounts (ie free 7 days with L250) should not be able to give ratings, imho
Cyanide Leviathan
Xtreme Loser Squad
Join date: 12 Jun 2003
Posts: 408
08-12-2004 21:41
I enjoy negative ratings, if your in a bad mood neg me
Matthias Zander
...me?
Join date: 2 May 2004
Posts: 109
08-13-2004 08:26
Honestly, I think the ratings system has gone too far. People are abusing it like crazy these days, with group neg ratings even when you've done nothing to these people. Perhaps it should be tracked by IP address and made so that people at the same IP shouldn't be able to neg rate the same person to prevent creating new free alts to neg rate.
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
08-13-2004 08:41
I received some negative ratings after that controversial government thread in the forums the other day. I wasn't even in world.

I did manage to track down one of the people, though. It was a brand new user (just created) named Cashuea Gilman which appears to be an alt account of Ryen Jade (from evidence in this post) although it is not conclusive.

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Damien Fate
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08-13-2004 09:04
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Barbarra Blair
Short Person
Join date: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 588
08-13-2004 09:23
I'll be glad to see negative ratings go away. I think the lack of positive ratings should speak for itself.

But I am very curious about what system will replace ratings. I hope it is not based on land ownership or wealth or number of people in your group or other such stuff.
Selador Cellardoor
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Join date: 16 Nov 2003
Posts: 3,082
08-13-2004 11:50
Without wishing to bang continuously on the same drum. You see that we are even incapable of using ratings in a way that is not corrupt. How do you think we are ready for self-government?
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Clint Cartier
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Join date: 16 Apr 2003
Posts: 122
08-13-2004 11:59
Was her name elisebeth by chance?

I was in milu working on my mall and I got neg rated. My first one since I started playing (see joined date).

I asked her why and she said she didnt like my house in ragla and that I was a land hog.

lol
Clint Cartier
Registered User
Join date: 16 Apr 2003
Posts: 122
08-13-2004 12:43
To add to my above post,
I contacted a linden just to ask if this was an accepted thing to do. Because when I looked at her stats, she had given 61 negs and had not received one neg rating. So I am guessing that like mine, she runs over to a persons property or objects, neg rates them, then flees the area so the person can not find them and neg rate them back.

How is this fair? You can rate me when I am not there, yet unless I am near you or your objects I can not rate you back?

Personally I am not too big into the ratings thing. I give pos ratings all the time but if I get a neg rating oh well. But this got me going because of the way it was done.
Polly Cassidy
Registered User
Join date: 26 Dec 2003
Posts: 29
08-14-2004 06:13
Yes, her name was Elizabeth. We found out that it is a alt account of someone who we have had past troubles with. We HOPE Lindens will suspend this IP address since suspending the alt account won't work, obviously.
Essence Lumin
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Join date: 24 Oct 2003
Posts: 806
08-14-2004 07:04
In Darko's please neg me thread he wondered who this Elizabeth was and why she was competing with him. I guess he didn't realize she was giving them, not getting them.
Darko Cellardoor
Cannabinoid Addict
Join date: 10 Nov 2003
Posts: 1,307
08-14-2004 09:48
what a bitch! that is just wrong. well i have made my point about the rating system. i ran into philip last night and he made a direct comment regarding the system after i asked him to neg me. :D

/invalid_link.html

just scroll down to the bottom of the post. i am sorry so many of u r getting screwed like this.
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Drake Extraordinaire
Junior Member
Join date: 4 Aug 2004
Posts: 1
not a good idea with IP adresses
08-17-2004 12:16
IP adresses would be fine except me and my girlfriend would get ripped off only because we have a router. Soin actually reality not such a good idea.
Lumina Lumiere
Delta-9 To The Rescue
Join date: 7 May 2004
Posts: 17
08-25-2004 12:14
Drake, I think they meant ban the IP addy of people who cause consistant trouble, so that you could still have multiple accts to one IP, but if one account causes VERY bad griefing the whole IP could be banned.
Barbarra Blair
Short Person
Join date: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 588
08-26-2004 09:17
Negative ratings should be temporary. They could fade away with time--which would also allow newbies who misbehave torecover after they learn SL manners.
Hamlet Linden
Linden Lab Employee
Join date: 9 Apr 2003
Posts: 882
08-29-2004 22:53
It's interesting how many residents add an explanation to neg ratings in their resident bio-- i.e., "so and so launched a neg rate campaign against me".
Chage McCoy
Aerodrome Janitor
Join date: 23 Apr 2004
Posts: 336
08-30-2004 02:35
Heya Hamster, welcome back.

The explanation of neg rated is a symptom of a flawed system. I have only been around since 1.3, but I think its fair to surmise the standards of neg ratijng have changed from "responsible and fair" from 1.4 to petty and frivilous in 1.4.

I have one neg rating against me for appearance. I still dont know why, because I recieved it as I was logging out. I suspect it was to do with holding a seburo in the Adam Zaius for dictator campaign last month. If I was shooting people, I'd consider the neg rating fair. For merely holding it, it was frivilous.

Similarly, I have not neg rated a single person in SL, because it will just result in a neg rating back, and possibly a neg rating campaign against me, simply because I dared to neg rate the objectionable behaviour.

I look forward to the ratings system overhaul
Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
08-30-2004 03:04
Lol, I've had a few neg rates...

Some I deserved,
Some were revenge for daring to neg rate the wrong person...
One of them I have absolutely no idea about.

But yeah, I look forward to the new system.
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