Protesting Bad and Obstructive Builds...

On my land in Samia, I have put up a protest against bad and obstructive builds.

Fly by and look (Samia (228,100)) or look at the pic on SLPics (http://www.sluniverse.com/pics/pic.aspx?id=47426&sort=PictureID+desc).

If more people would do this, maybe some of these mall and club owners will quit building these monstrosities on the landscape.

The mainland can be a beautiful place if we make it that way. I don't want to have to move to Dreamland so I can have a nice house with nice neighbors.

I may be dreaming, but that is all I have.

--Jamie

So your protest against ugly construction is.......ugly construction. Super.

Ugly builds telling you to stop building ugly builds will stop ugly builds..

Congratulations I think you've found the worlds weakest argument..

Altho I'm sure some of the ugly builds out there are out of laziness, a lot are people learning.. I've got quite a few ugly builds under my belt and I wouldn't be the builder I am today without them.. Everyones gotta learn..

part of the beauty of the mainland is the diversity of new ideas. why would anyone want to discurage ppl from participating in the anarchey/ demococratic landscape of the mainland unless your anshee chung. more power to freedom from building codes. so i say to the prtester...go get a dreamland lot.

Or Hiro Queso

Because you extended an invitation, I decided to go have a look. Took me a few minutes to see that your build is actually inside your protest display. A casual passerby will never see what you have to offer SL, except for your ugly protest build. I dont get why you want to hide your build exactly.

I do see your point with the high builds around you, but you are not blocked in. Your place could actually serve as a little oasis, but instead you have a huge ugly protest that is actually among the worst eyesore in the area, I dont get it really. I do see how your view of the area is obstructed, but it sort of seems like the theme there. It is not just one person bothering you, all the neighbors seem to have taken to tall urban like builds. They could complain that your build is out of place.

If I were in your situation, I would find somewhere else to live. Its a tough decision sometimes, but I discovered long ago that others are going to build what they are going to build, just as I am going to build what I am going to build. If I dont like my neighbors, I will pack up and move. It can be tough, because you staked your claim and all, but I sort of thrive on change and new locations are always exciting.

Good luck to you. I hope you rethink your protest methods, you are hiding a nice little build in your big ugly box.

and we know that 2 wrongs always make a right

But, but, but, you can not deny him freedom of expression, even if you disagree with what he has to say.

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The idea for this protest came from Gwyneth Llewelyn blog entry (http://secondlife.game-host.org/article53visual1layout1.html) where she says:

"In a few months, this is what Second Life will probably look like. Interesting high-quality content will be inside the boxes where people will meet, shop, and chat."

She says this will happen because of the TH change, but the ugly builds around my property appeared BEFORE the TH change was even announced. And in the scheme of TH layouts, my land and the land around me was nowhere near a TH. I remember having to fly 800m from the TH when I bought the land.

It's not a matter of where TH are/were or the availibility of P2P teleporting, it's a matter of Mall owners just wanting to build something big with as few prims as possible, not caring about the look of the textures either, so they can sell the space. Same thing with the club owners, big space, few prims, get money. All with the attitude of "neighbors? what neighbors? they don't matter, just my proffits matter." It's not flying distance. Most everyone is used to flying.

Now I will admit before I get flamed, some of the malls are nice and well done, but they are a minority.

Ok, back to the build. Why do the box? I was wanting to illustrate to everyone what a ugly and obstructive thing the box is because I don't want it to come to that. I don't want the SL landscape to be littered with "tiny worlds inside the boxes."

--Jamie

I'm still confused. You don't want the boxes, but you create one. If everyone follows the lead of your protest, you get exactly what you didn't want. Is this the objective or should only you be protesting, in which case, it doesn't do that much good?

I think a few people need to do it to illustrate the point. Show how ugly a landscape of boxes and ugly builds are to get people not to do them.

My box isn't a permanent thing. If it was, that would defeat the point. I plan on removing it around the middle of January.

--Jamie

OK. I get that. However, if the ugly builds are a problem, won't people see that from the actual ugly builds? Why add to it?

Ah, well, we all have our methods.

Thanks for the laugh, needed it.

Why do you think this is funny?

Even though this is a game, alot of people have invested real time, money and effort into it. I don't see anything funny about that.

--Jamie

What's Ugly to You may not be ugly to others Your point is purely subjective to the opinion of the individual. There for does not hold any merit.

It's funny because you apparently don't see the irony in what you're doing. This is like a nation going to war to protest the US war in Iraq, or someone screaming profanities at someone because they used foul language.

P2

What they are trying to say you built something ugly to protest something ugly.

irony

well i think this is a good idea, and i knew it was going to happen, and its just the start of a huge chain reaction that will eventualy cripple the land market if the lindens do not do something soon, and the protest is a good way of showing them that we have had enough, and what could and more than likely will happen if they do not do somethign about it, i seen this today while exploring also

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7623/extortion5ab.jpg

it reads wana buy some land?
under that a ss of the impeach bush signs

and at the bottom

Land Extortionist:

Like the Mafia only tackier.
this is posted right infront of a impech bush sign

only one word, AMEN

Audis got the point. The point isn't to build the ugly box and keep it (I want the prims back at some point), it is to build the ugly box to show what will happen if people don't start being more mindful about what is going on around them.

A good example is littering. A protest about littering would be to cover a controlled area with litter and put a sign around it saying "This is what will happen if we don't stop littering." That is what I'm doing with my box.

I see either people building their worlds inside of ugly boxes and wallpapering the insides of the box with pretty scenery or going in with other like minded people and buying a sim like they do now but on a larger scale. The first is horrible and I don't want to see it happen. The second is ok for themed groups, but for the general population it creates more disconnection in the global community.

Ok, I'm going to get off my soap box for a while. I'm sure a lot of people have heard enough of my ranting.

--Jamie

yeah builds are subjective, just because one person finds them ugly doesn't mean they are not perfectly acceptable to someone else.

We all have our different reasons to be in SL, some pople do not see aescetic beauty the way others do but still have every right to enjoy their experience here.

Basicly, you can protest someone's work all you want but, in my opinion, it just makes you look like you want to take someones fun away and that is weak and unsporting.

ugly is only prim deep

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Let Peace Be Your Fortune

IMHO, let people build ugly. Ugly is definitely in the eye of the beholder, and I have seen many a noob incredibly proud of what I would currently call an "ugly" build (and i remember bein' proud myself).

I do have one gripe, however. Certain builds and irresponsible scripting/purchase of irresponsible scripts cause LOTS of lag in a sim. Such is especially true of clubs and malls. I would like to put forth the idea that server resources are NOT allocated per sim, but per parcel (on a sq. m. by sq. m. basis...like prims) so that Mr/Ms club/mall owner with sensors, listens, animations, etc. can deal with their own lag and not "pawn it off" on the rest of us in a sim.

well, it seems i misunderstood the purpose, i'm not against ugly builds but i am aginst the land extortion with the impeach bush signs, and thats what i thought you were protesting, just making that clear

LOL! Well said

I agree with everyone here, my building skills are probably above the average noob, but I tend to go for a heavily optimised design with everything, as I'm a complete prim tight-arse, can't afford higher tier so want to get the most out of what I have!
I think my tower/shop is quite nice looking all things considered.

In the same way, people DO have to learn, and they're not going to find this a positive experience if you are going around mocking them, declaring them heathens and practically announcing them as the sole reason SL is a mess! If someone builds a building that you find ugly, then be diplomatic, maybe suggesting constructive alterations or donating textures/pre-made components that might help them on their way!

Well, since all I've gotten is much ridicule and laughs over my concerns. I'm going to do what some others have suggested. I'm moving to Dreamland.

The box is gone and my land is for sale.

Goodbye mainland, may you be riddled with malls and clubs, for that is what you seam destined for.

--Jamie