SL on Mac OSX 10.5 (Leopard)?

Yeah mine is working much better, I am still getting the occasional hang ups as well but thank god it's a lot smoother, this will work until they get a good working client for leopard.

*hopes they do get one soon!!!

Has anyone tried taking the SL source code and compiling it using XCode 3.0? It might make a difference

Well, I have upgraded to Leopard on my Dual 1.8 G5 and it works just fine. It is only my iMac with the Radeon HD card that is giving me problems.

I'm running SL on a Leopard Mac Pro and it generally runs pretty well by itself, but if I try to run other programs things get all "skippy". If i run the other programs in another space it's better, but still not totally as smooth as I would expect.

What I am really wondering is, is SL truly a Universal software or is it still operating under Rosetta? That would explain why it eats up all my RAM..

I think that they need to work on the software a bit to make it more compatible with leopard

The current release is a universal binary, so it's not running under Rosetta.

And I reduced my graphics memory setting from 128 (the max for me) to 64 and it made a huge difference. I now am seeing consistent and stable frame rates around 20 fps. So it sounds like a memory allocation issue in the graphics buffer of some sort.

Help? I've done everything I or anyone else on SL can think of and I have a horrible problem - my text entries (chat and IM) are going bonkers. Sometimes 1 line (normal) but mostly repeating echoes up to 8x. The echoes are random -2x, 5x, 2x, 3x...no pattern whatsoever. This is a brand new machine without any problems outside of sl.
I've rebooted, re-downloaded, re-installed, re-everythinged. No positive results.
I'm new to sl but some friends have been in sl since the beginning and THEY've never seen anything like my problem.
Any thoughts?
Thx,
Abbie
p.s. I love my new mac

If your using the new "leopard OS" you need to go in to your SL preferences and turn you graphics settings from whatever the highest is like for example mine was 128 mb bring it down the lowest u can, I brought mine to 16 mb , this is just a temp fix until second life can get this working right on leopard.

For me, just bringing it down from 128 to 64 made a world of difference, but definitely needs to be reduced! I haven't played with the different settings to see which is best for me -- I was just happy to no longer be caught in the clutches of the demon Lagnor.

hehehe glad I could help, I totally couldn't stand the damn clutches of the demon lagor either lol, It was really bad I can't wait for them to get a fix for it.

You don't say whether you are running Tiger or Leopard. I am still running Tiger, on the 2.0 Mini, and have no problems at all with SL. (That's why I'm reluctant to install Leopard).

The text echoing seems unrelated to the graphics setting, in my opinion. Does the mini display any echoing in any other program? Are you also using a new keyboard?

1, SL viewer (at least Nicholaz) is using both CPU's, check Activity viewer, and they seem balanced.

2. I can run SL viewer (regular) in Windows XP under Parallels VM

Macbook Pro, 2Ghz core Duo, 2 Gb RAM, OS X 10.5

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Boy, this freaking url handler in this forum is whacked.

The problem of stuttering also existed in Tiger, but it was less severe because Tiger made less use of GL memory.

It is described here: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-914

The solution is to set the texture memory under Advanced Graphics to half of what you actually have. This leaves the other half to the OS so that contention (and the slowdowns) do not occur.

SL needs a way to dynamically allocate texture memory depending on what is available, instead of just guessing.

My thoughts exactally, I reinstalled Win XP in dual OS boot after the Vista nightmare, and Vista has been out for the better part of a year now so I wouldn't cross your fingers on any fixes to the SL client in the near future. I'm quite Mac deficient, but if you can dual OS boot on a Mac I'd highly recommend that or you may be waiting for quite a long time. Anyway Vista is a nightmare all around, nothing seems to be compatable with it so maybe it will be easier on the Mac side.

Two questions:

1: Has anyone had experience yet, good or bad, with a Mac Pro Tower, 2GB RAM and the ATI 512 MB card that Apple offers as a standard option, under Leopard?

2: If I dual-boot that same Mac Pro Tower, 2GB RAM with the ATI 512 MB card that Apple offers, and run Windows XP on the Mac, will I get better performance and stability than under Leopard?

Am about to get a new computer, and I really don't want to 'go over to the dark side' and get a Wintel system. Most of my apps are Mac, and I am not about to pay to replace all of them with Wintel versions.

Not related to the above, but I can report that SL is working perfectly on my iMac with Leopard (2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, Radeon X1600, Leopard installed using the standard Upgrade option).

I've found that since I moved over to the OnRez client instead of the SL client, teleports are a lot better and overall stability. Still a little juddery at times (on Leopard, Mac Pro 2ghz, 5gb Ram) so have dropped graphics settings to 32mb.

http://viewer.onrez.com/

I have been running Second Life viewers 1.18.4.2, Release Candidate and Nicholaz version on Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard and any of these versions run so slow that it is pretty much unbearable for a day to day use.

Mouse movements almost come to a full stop and inworld movement happens so discontinuously, with so much hiccups that, when adding the normal lagg, makes using Second Life a very frustrating experience.

(iMac, 24", 2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo, 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM, Nvidia Geforce 7600GT - 256 MB VRAM)

This sounds like GPU memory overutilization. As mentioned earlier, go into advanced graphics preferences and set your video RAM to half of what you have. This should eliminate most problems.

Linden Labs really needs to fix this in the client.

I was using the voice client in Leopard with no problems then suddenly last night it started crashing. This did not affect the viewer but even after a clean install of SL (included the cache and prefs) the client continues to crash.

Anyone else having this problem?

Model Name: MacBook Pro 17"
Model Identifier: MacBookPro2,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.33 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz

The problem is, they don't have a clue. They contend it works fine in Leopard.

Also, even setting the memory to 64 megs, I still have slowness, lag, rendering issues, and crashes that I never approached in severity with Tiger.

SL is the only app I've had issues with since moving to Leopard. And for as LONG as I've used it, it's been the only app I've ever had cause kernel panics (infrequently though).

SL runs fine for me under Leopard once I found the set the texture memory to half trick (this happened under Tiger for me too). I have another JIRA entry that describes what happens better if you'd like to vote for that one too: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2763

Incidentally, SL runs fine on Vista for me.

I don't understand why some people say this makes it work fine and for others (like me) it's so slow and unstable as to almost be unusable.

I don't have quite the same setup - I have Mac Pro w/ 5 GB of RAM and an Nvidia graphics card. I upgraded to Leopard yesterday.

So far, SL seems to be running just fine. I'm using the Nicholaz client, and to be honest I can't say if its any faster or slower under Leopard than 10.4, but it seems to work fine for me. Its been stable and fairly fast for me. To be honest, the glass shelf dock is about the most stressful part of the upgrade for me