I need someone to help... a lot.

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Just curious, your forums join date is just a couple months old - what businesses did you have that have already been lost?

Also, just IMO, don't say "So what. Sue me." when you're asking for money that you're promising to pay back. Bit of a mixed message there..

edit: IBTL!

I don't mean to offend, but this is bullshit. If you're capable of posting here, and building, and creating shirts and tattoos, then you are capable of having a job to support these activities, as in this world of technology, there are tons of jobs you can do at home, online, without ever doing anything remotely strenuous or physically demanding, that would be at least as doable for you as what you propose.

Along with this, if you can afford internet, and upload costs for your shirts and tattoos, then you can probably save up the 77$ that L$20,000 costs.

If nothing else, you can get another job in SL. It's not like there's any kind of shortage of virtual jobs. Just check out the Employment forum, and you'll see what I mean.

You know, they hired me back when I was basically brand new (literally) so I can't recall what their names were. Most recently, however, 'twas Club Horizon, where I was to be a hostess there...

And, I see you're point about the "Sue me," bit, but I was just a tad mad at something else...

Well I'm sorry to say you did offend me. Deeply. I canNOT afford Internet. I have to rely on funds my parents send me monthly. And I have a 16 year old daughter to raise, and I wouldn't dare spending the money we need on a "game" (or whatever you'd like to call it.).

For the record, I can't even upload because my computer has extremely poor graphics cards and such and will crash when I try to. So please don't say I can support these activities. I can't.

And without getting into detail, you must understand that when I say I can't work, I can't work. Please do not further question this.

But, your opinion is your opinion, and I won't (I can't) stop you from thinking that this is a load of bull. Be my guest.

Then I sincerely hope you don't intend to make money to support anything in RL with this. Even if you do, it would take time, and a lot of work, for anything. Along with paying back the original loan, you'd likely just be disappointed.


Then it seems odd to me that you'd request capital to essentially do exactly that, work. When I say there are jobs available, I mean both RL and SL, both of which have jobs available for exactly what you seem to already be doing. You could advertise your ability with creating images (Such as your tattoos and shirts) and do some web graphic work, or something similar. You could use freebie 3d programs and work to create 3d models which are completely sellable, and not have to spend any money getting to that point. You might even be surprised at how similar to SL some things are, even if they are more complex.

You could even do contract work in SL, that would provide the upload costs at the start, and payment at the end, or something similar. Even build or do textures for some other business until you can get your own going.

But that's not really the point.

The real issue I'm having is your original post script, that begging is the only way. You've had other jobs in SL, why not get another one, and save up the L$ you need? Just because you've lost your other ones doesn't mean there are none left. It wouldn't be an immediate action, but it would get you there, and depending on the job you could even get there very, very quickly, possibly within a single day, without having to upload anything, or spend any L$ of your own. Many even have completely open work schedules, that would allow you to do your thing in RL (Whatever that may be, perhaps medical issues and whatnot) and still keep the job. Most employers would understand, I'm sure.

There is no reason that you should believe that begging is your only option.

Of course, I don't intend to make an RL profit out of this. I actually didn't even think of that. I simply wish to make money in-world only to get better at building (textures and such) and cover uploading costs (whilst finding someone who can upload for me).

And without going into to much detail, again, in my physical and mental state, most RL work is strenuous -- even the simplest job you could probably think of.

I have applied to several places in the past few days; don't think I have given up on SL jobs completely, oh no. But they nearly don't pay enough, and the places I would like to work at have strict schedules I simply can't abide by. And I've yet to find a place that has a completely open schedule.

And, for the record, I can't create graphic work whatsoever. If someone wants a shirt, THEY provide the image. I don't design; I can't design.

I'm basically a train-wreck.

Begging is the only way to get what I need sooner than any job (that doesn't involve a lewd act, or even dancing.).

Any further arguements/comments?

alica,
there's this thing here called camping which makes L's. many sims and places have campers that can make 200L's in an hour or 2. please don't beg, no one's gonna give you L's with that attitude, and inconsistent, "don't design," but "i build" & "so sue me" attitude. best to walk away from the forums for a while for all of your poor posts are kept here for anyone to read at any time. i've seen quite a few try to beg for investors and get shot down in flames and for far less then you're asking for, and since you have no business or marketing plan or effort put in but begging, that's a very poor and extremely risky proposition.

if you really need 20k L's immediately, you should try one of the slave auction houses. if you have a descent skin and can emote and can shut your eyes to degradation, you'll make alot more than 20K L's in one week.

best of luck to you, you poor thing. i sincerely hope someday that you'll be able to look back on this and laugh like the rest of us are doing right now.

Wasn't there that Micky Mouse themed sim? They may have some work....

omg I had never read such a thing!

There are PLENTY of EASY jobs in Second Life, not to mention camping or trying luck at spolders.
Besides, I also have a graphics card problem (a huge one, I have to relog every 10 minutes), and I cannot create the eyes I sell (my girlfriend has to), which makes me unable to build aswell. My point is I don't understand how you can't upload, but yes build. And if what you need is someone to upload textures for you, why ask for 20kL?

Seriously, if you were bored and wanted to open a discussion, congratulations lol

Easy solution, get off SL and take care of your RL first! Problem solved.

I am confused how can you make tattoos and yet not be able to upload?

It's always nice to have startup L$, but I find having startup funds is an easy way to fail. Best off to start a Second Life business with upload cost investment. Building from the ground up in SL is all to possible. Doing it on what is called a *shoe string* budget will better cultivate practices you develop over the course of running your business.

Using XStreetSL(Horrible Horrible NAME!) is key to starting a SL business on a shoestring, also striking deals with other shop / mall owners for stalls at free / commission.

Use this ideal and you will most likely develop a much stronger business than using a "Loan".


Oh, and IBTL - I seethe the maker coming for all of you, hide before it's to late!

Alica...

If you need to upload some textures, send me an IM or notecard. I can do it for you, for free of course.
Don´t wait until i am online. Lately i am very busy in RL and i don´t log into SL too much but i receive IMs in my email.
I hope we can find the way you can continue building.
And please, be patient with me English is not my native lenguaje.

Woolich

Not to sound rude...

But you don't understand.

Because you don't make them in-world?

External programs...?

Of course not! Nobody does. You don't like sharing.


Err.. actually, making things in-world is the only way to avoid upload costs...not that that's really possible for tattoos. I believe the question was meant as 'How are you creating tattoos, using uploaded textures, if you can't upload?'

...maybe I've missed something. I haven't uploaded anything. I'm quite confused now...

To make a tattoo you need to go into some drawing program and design it ( well that is what i would do) then you need to upload the texture into SL to make it usable. If youdont use some external program are you just using other peoples designs and turning them into tattoos and calling them yours?

Maybe I've misunderstood you, but no.

They come to me with an image they want as a tattoo. I put it on a skin (or an undershirt) and sell it to them. I don't say I designed it.

For any further arguments: When I said "I don't design," you should have noted what came after it. I can't. I have noooo artistic ability when it comes to drawing in any way.
You'd laugh if I drew something. Guarantee it.

What was the original question? It's missing.

She wanted money to set up a business

So they come with a alpha image and all you do is go to the inventory and make an item of clothing say 2 mins work , if that, and you sell it to them ? What if the image is not in alpha format what do you do then ?

Oh, gee whiz....should have read this early am on Monday....that's probably a better time to ask for money....by noon on Tuesdays, the requests for the week are already pouring in....Thursday and Friday definitely not a good time to ask, already overloaded......asking on Saturday and Sunday strictly forbidden.....probably best time to ask is between the hours of 12am and 2am SL time, very early Monday morning....so that you are very first in line for the week....and definitely send them to IM so that I can check the time frames on all the IMs to see who truly was first in line for the week. Just to be Fair.

Maybe I'm just coy, but you sound... either tense, or you're trying to make me feel like I can't do a damn thing.

Your vibe is quite odd... to say the least.

And maybe you've misunderstood me? Are we speaking of clothes or tattoos?

Clothes: They give me a link TO ANY IMAGE THEY HAVE. What I'm catching from you is they send me something in-world and give me the image to put it on a shirt. Um... I think anyone could do that... and I'd think it silly to charge that!

They send me a link to an image they want used, I modify it to blend in with the shirt color, and sell it to them after I find a way to upload it.

Basically the same as tattoos.

If people came to me in-world with images in-world, they could do it themselves...