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MJ Hathor
Purple Butterfly
Join date: 17 Mar 2005
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01-30-2006 18:51
A very tall Ivory pedestal comes to mind, located somewhere in the middle of Utopia. ![]() |
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
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01-30-2006 19:19
Chip made the point that we are all adults here, but sometimes I wonder about the conduct I see. I dont know adults in my first life who call one another names and insult the way we see it in forum posts. It's a different mode of communication and different idiom. It's like silent movies compared to "talkies." Everyone overacts a bit (and overreacts). People are always more rhetorical when writing than when speaking. It's a good thing to keep that in mind. _____________________
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Joy Honey
Not just another dumass
Join date: 17 Jun 2005
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01-30-2006 19:25
It's a different mode of communication and different idiom. It's like silent movies compared to "talkies." Everyone overacts a bit (and overreacts). People are always more rhetorical when writing than when speaking. It's a good thing to keep that in mind. Dang it Chip, quit bein' all smart and stuff... ![]() Der ![]() _____________________
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
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01-30-2006 19:26
Hippie.
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
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01-30-2006 19:29
It's not my fault. I was dropped on my head as a child. Der.
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
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01-30-2006 22:02
I'm sorry you had to go through all this MJ you is a fine upstanding forum poster and have always been awesome to read in the forums....its unfortunate that LL threw all the new resmods ( which are all good people in my book ) to the wolves as sacrificial lambs As for Jeska pointing out any personal attacks ...well she's wrong and no one from LL will explain their actions...I never made a personal attack against anyone in that thread period much less a direct personal attack....this is what ticks me off about LL....do they really believe there werent a bunch of us that saw that thread to the end? There were a minimum of four resmods responding and watching it too....funny how so many people missed this direct personal attack and yet Jeska found it... I watched that thread from birth to demise, and there was NO personal attack. None. That Pen, is why I employed sarcasm in my last post in this thread. _____________________
“Time's fun when you're having flies.” ~Kermit
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Flavian Molinari
Broadly Offensive Content
Join date: 1 Aug 2004
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01-30-2006 22:45
But, I think worst of all is Linden Lab's implementation of "responsibility without authority". What a lame move. Jeska will you do my work for me? It is unpleasant and ungratifying and I don't want to pay you and if you don't mind, I'd like you to do it with both hands tied behind your back. kthxbye. This and people fanning the fire because they were not picked creates a system where very few if any will want to be a forum mod. |
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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01-30-2006 23:02
This and people fanning the fire because they were not picked creates a system where very few if any will want to be a forum mod. Can you recommend a good clairvoyance class? _____________________
“Time's fun when you're having flies.” ~Kermit
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Flavian Molinari
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Join date: 1 Aug 2004
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01-30-2006 23:27
Can you recommend a good clairvoyance class? Don't need one. People have said they applied and were not picked. The same people started threads flamming the new system. Just a hunch, if these people were picked I suspect the bashing threads would not have been so harsh. I also believe if there is another call for forum mod volunteers the list will be quiet a bit shorter than the original one. |
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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01-30-2006 23:43
Don't need one. People have said they applied and were not picked. The same people started threads flamming the new system. Just a hunch, if these people were picked I suspect the bashing threads would not have been so harsh. I also believe if there is another call for forum mod volunteers the list will be quiet a bit shorter than the original one. Ohhhh kayyyy boss. _____________________
“Time's fun when you're having flies.” ~Kermit
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Flavian Molinari
Broadly Offensive Content
Join date: 1 Aug 2004
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01-31-2006 00:14
Ohhhh kayyyy boss. Thanks for the sarcasim there employee. This Res Mod forum event reminds me of the Emperor's New Clothes. God forbid I point out the obvious and I say anything against the local post whores. Somebody might think I'm not cool ![]() |
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
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01-31-2006 00:41
Thanks for the sarcasim there employee. This Res Mod forum event reminds me of the Emperor's New Clothes. God forbid I point out the obvious and I say anything against the local post whores. Somebody might think I'm not cool ![]() What's obvious to me is that you like to base theories on unprovable assumptions, even though 99% of us who have issues with the program have no personal issues with the people who are ResMods, and have stated as such dozens of times. I guess they're all liars too, as well as jealous post whores, huh? It's ok, assuming people's motives automatically imbues one with superior character, right? Post whores eh? I find it hillarious that those in this thread who are issuing blanketed personal attacks are those selfsame folks criticizing those who have reservations about the program. It's also funny that the thread hasn't been moved to purgatory yet, because it contains caustic language from the same folks. Should I press the red triangle? Naw, I'll leave that up to the employees of The Ministry of Truth. So, since we're all about assuming here, is it safe to assume that you support Talen being formally warned for a thread that contained no personal attack or ToS violation what so ever? Please note - lest the above paragraph be construed as some sort of "jealousy" - that would be a criticism of LL and the program itself, not the ResMods, as they have no authority to warn people or delete threads. Attributing motive for criticism to jealousy is a fallacious and lame rhetorical device used by those without a solid counter-argument. In fact it's ad hominem. Oh well. _____________________
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Flavian Molinari
Broadly Offensive Content
Join date: 1 Aug 2004
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01-31-2006 01:05
What's obvious to me is that you like to base theses on unprovable assumptions, even though 99% of us who have issues with the program have no personal issues with the people who are ResMods, and have stated as such dozens of time. It's ok, assuming people's motives automatically imbues one with superior character, right? Post whores eh? I find it hillarious that those in this thread who are issuing blanketed personal attacks are those selfsame folks criticizing those who have reservations about the program. It's also funny that the thread hasn't been moved to purgatory yet, because it contains caustic language from the same folks. Should I press the red triangle? Naw, I'll leave that up to the employees of The Ministry of Truth. So, since we're all about assuming here, is it safe to assume that you support Talen being formally warned for a thread that contained no personal attack or ToS violation what so ever? Please note - lest the above paragraph be construed as some sort of "jealousy" - that would be a criticism of LL and the program itself, not the ResMods, as they have no authority to warn people or delete threads. Attributing motive for criticism to jealousy is a fallacious and lame rhetorical device used by those without a solid counter-argument. In fact it's ad hominem. Oh well. I didn't read your whole post because it's boring. I'm pretty sure you didnt read mine either because I didn't say anything about the Res Mods being attacked personally. As far as unprovable assumption, this isn't a court of law. If it looks like dog shit and smells like dog shit and it came from a dog. Then it must be dog shit. What's there to prove? Should I prove the sky is blue? The only questions I've had about this program is why would someone actually want to be a Res Mod. Everything else about it has been obvious. |
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Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
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ResMod alert!
01-31-2006 01:38
Everyone... breath in.... and.. exhale.
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
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01-31-2006 01:38
I didn't read your whole post because it's boring. I'm pretty sure you didnt read mine either because I didn't say anything about the Res Mods being attacked personally. As far as unprovable assumption, this isn't a court of law. Oh, and the grade school rhetoric you're employing here isn't helping your case. Especially if you support the program - as your language is in direct conflict with the spirit of the program. If it looks like dog shit and smells like dog shit and it came from a dog. Then it must be dog shit. What's there to prove? Should I prove the sky is blue? Actually the sky isn't blue, it just appears as such due to the Rayleigh Scattering effect. The blue wavelength of sunlight is scattered and the other wavelengths aren't! They pass virtually straight through, and the sky itself is virtually transparent! See how that works? When we take things to be what we think are "obvious" (assumption), many times there's a lot more to it.The only questions I've had about this program is why would someone actually want to be a Res Mod. Everything else about it has been obvious. _____________________
“Time's fun when you're having flies.” ~Kermit
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Flavian Molinari
Broadly Offensive Content
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01-31-2006 02:25
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Nolan Nash This message is hidden because Nolan Nash is on your ignore list. ------------------ I love this feature. ![]() |
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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01-31-2006 02:40
Unread Today, 09:38 AM Nolan Nash This message is hidden because Nolan Nash is on your ignore list. ------------------ I love this feature. ![]() Yeah, I know, logic is hard to handle when you're driven by emotion and assumption. _____________________
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Cybin Monde
Resident Moderator (?)
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,468
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dear MJ
01-31-2006 02:45
MJ, thanks for trying as hard as you did. i know you were trying to both enjoy your position and to make a helpful and decent ResMod.. and in my opinion, you were doing a good job.
i'm sorry to see your resignation and you have my condolences.. on the other hand, i appreciate your position and i'm sure you're enjoying the air on the other side, where it's much easier to breathe and be yourself. (and thanks for your stated intentions of making our job easier )_____________________
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Selador Cellardoor
Registered User
Join date: 16 Nov 2003
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01-31-2006 03:31
the local post whores. You mean some people get paid for posting here? ![]() _____________________
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
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01-31-2006 03:36
You mean some people get paid for posting here? ![]() Hahahaha! *Shakes his moneymaker* ![]() _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
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01-31-2006 03:58
Oh my stars, I have been PWNED! Actually the sky isn't blue, it just appears as such due to the Rayleigh Scattering effect. The blue wavelength of sunlight is scattered and the other wavelengths aren't! They pass virtually straight through, and the sky itself is virtually transparent! See how that works? When we take things to be what we think are "obvious" (assumption), many times there's a lot more to it.To be anal about it, this means the sky is blue. Color is simply the result of perception of different wavelengths of light. Now, ordinarily, we base color on the light that is reflected off of an object. In the case of the sky, we're seeing the light that isn't reflected. But either way, it's mostly just a case of perception - The sky is blue because we percieve it as blue, if we expound logicly from the conclusion of Descartes' evil genius hypothesis. The sky would only not be blue if we subscribed to a more dated view of perceptive reality, such as Platolian forms, which would say that we have no way of knowing the true Form of the sky except by comparison of all derivations of Sky, which include green, gray, yellow, blue, red, pink, purple, etc... This, verses a more Aristolian view of hylomorphic composite reality, which would allow for the sky being blue, because matter makes it blue, regardless of what the Form of sky is. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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01-31-2006 04:14
To be anal about it, this means the sky is blue. Color is simply the result of perception of different wavelengths of light. Now, ordinarily, we base color on the light that is reflected off of an object. In the case of the sky, we're seeing the light that isn't reflected. But either way, it's mostly just a case of perception - The sky is blue because we percieve it as blue, if we expound logicly from the conclusion of Descartes' evil genius hypothesis. The sky would only not be blue if we subscribed to a more dated view of perceptive reality, such as Platolian forms, which would say that we have no way of knowing the true Form of the sky except by comparison of all derivations of Sky, which include green, gray, yellow, blue, red, pink, purple, etc... This, verses a more Aristolian view of hylomorphic composite reality, which would allow for the sky being blue, because matter makes it blue, regardless of what the Form of sky is. As I understand it from my meteorology courses in college, we see scattered blue sunlight, and the "white" sunlight goes through nearly unimpeded. The closer to the horizon you look, the paler the blue, because the blue light has to travel further (to your eyes), and is therefore weaker. It is an atrribute of the light interacting with the atmosphere, not the atmosphere itself. When the sun is down, the sky turns black, because the sky itself has no color, other than weather systems or other suspended particulate matter. The air (sky) is not blue. A portion of the sunlight is. I am not speaking in the philosophical sense, but rather the scientific one. At any rate, with your addition here, you've highlighted my point - perception isn't necessarily the truth. _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
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01-31-2006 04:18
As I understand it from my meteorology courses in college, we see scattered blue sunlight, and the "white" sunlight goes through nearly unimpeded. The closer to the horizon you look, the paler the blue, because the blue light has to travel further (to your eyes), and is therefore weaker. It is an atrribute of the light interacting with the atmosphere, not the atmosphere itself. When the sun is down, the sky turns black, because the sky itself has no color, other than weather systems or other suspended particulate matter. The air (sky) is not blue. A portion of the sunlight is. I am not speaking in the philosophical sense, but rather the scientific one. At any rate, with your addition here, you've highlighted my point - perception isn't necessarily the truth. Well, you're basicly exactly correct, though as for the sky being colorless... Its just that we can't percieve the color, because sky isnt dense enough to reflect enough light to really let us see what it would look like. If you could somehow condense a chunk of sky into a solid mass, you could tell. So, it's blue because we percieve it as blue ![]() _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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MJ Hathor
Purple Butterfly
Join date: 17 Mar 2005
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01-31-2006 07:22
Stop making my thread off-topic you two!! (Nolan and Reitsuki)
I hear off-topic needs a new thread titled "Why is the sky blue?". MJ ![]() |
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
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01-31-2006 07:26
Stop making my thread off-topic you two!! (Nolan and Reitsuki) I hear off-topic needs a new thread titled "Why is the sky blue?". MJ ![]() LOL. Well, I used it to make a point about Flavian's assumption - since he used it as an example of something "obvious" to him - with respect to his feelings about those critical of the ResMod proggy. Sorry if it meandered a bit. *Smacks the backs of Reitsuki and my hands with a ruler* And MJ, sorry to hear things went this way for you, and I wish you the best of luck in all your future endeavors. ![]() _____________________
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