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Grim Lupis
Dark Wolf
Join date: 11 Jul 2003
Posts: 762
08-06-2004 06:41
From: someone
Originally posted by Kurt Zidane
I think they should take multiple account very seriously, and back up their option with good procedures. Other wise they should just admit they can't take the time to properly police, and allow people to have as many accounts as they want. Because multiple account give those players a huge advantage over every one else.


Umm, multiple accounts are allowed. They're not against the TOS. To the best of my knowledge, the only restriction is 5 per household.

You're trying to enforce a rule that doesn't even exist.
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
08-06-2004 07:27
From: someone
Originally posted by Kurt Zidane
Because multiple account give those players a huge advantage over every one else.


Even assuming you werent entirely missing the point/barking up the wrong tree etc., I'd really love to know exactly how you justify the above statement?

Do enlighten me... how do multiple accounts give players who have them a huge advantage over everyone else?
LordJason Kiesler
imperfection inventor.
Join date: 30 May 2004
Posts: 215
08-06-2004 13:29
Ok first to the guy that said
"It's not that you can't have the same account from a different IP, it's just that you can't have more than one account on the same IP."
im currently using My wifes and my own through nothing more than ICS on a singal cable connection. And we can both get on at the same time.

if you restrict access by Ip It will be More Unfair to ppl than it is now. and Anyone who knows how can simply Change there IP whenever. What about ppl who dont have the same Ip all the time?.
Also you can Change the Mac adress on most routers easly through a simple Gui. And even some Nic cards.
Huns Valen
Don't PM me here.
Join date: 3 May 2003
Posts: 2,749
Ever heard of DHCP? LOL
08-08-2004 04:23
I say that if they limit it to one poster per IP, they also limit SL to one account per MAC address, or maybe just by name and/or street address. That would balance the forums being crippled for roommates by making it impossible for people to have alternate avatars.

That would be fair, wouldn't it?

:)
Angel Leviathan
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Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 440
08-20-2004 08:54
Bump.

One poster per IP please.
Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
08-20-2004 09:00
From: someone
Originally posted by Angel Leviathan
Bump.

One poster per IP please.


Hi Angel :)

We missed you. And thanks for confirming my conspiracy theory. lol

j/k
Angel Leviathan
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Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 440
08-20-2004 09:19
From: someone
Originally posted by Kris Ritter
Hi Angel :)

We missed you. And thanks for confirming my conspiracy theory. lol

j/k


Hi Kris, I was moving into my new house and stuff. :)

umm which conspiracy theory did I confirm?
Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
08-20-2004 09:22
From: someone
Originally posted by Angel Leviathan
Hi Kris, I was moving into my new house and stuff. :)

umm which conspiracy theory did I confirm?


ooh snap! I was moving house too :)

And the conspiracy theory that you was all the new alts popping up to troll! see here
Jack Digeridoo
machinimaniac
Join date: 29 Jul 2003
Posts: 1,170
08-20-2004 09:25
*waves at Angel and stares at his toes
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Angel Leviathan
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Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 440
08-20-2004 09:32
From: someone
Originally posted by Kris Ritter
ooh snap! I was moving house too :)

And the conspiracy theory that you was all the new alts popping up to troll! see here


"What is it with all the alts coming out to play on the forums?

Ya know, I have a theory... no wait. Hear me out...

Remember Angel wanted a 'one poster, one IP address' feature implemented for the forums? Well these are ALL her proving why it's necessary " -- that is from the forum link you provided.

LOL!!! Yup you know it, all those annoying people in the forums are actually my many many alts trying to make it clear how necessary the one forum poster per IP policy is.

LOL no..just to clarify, I only have one alt that I rarely use since I don't give out neg ratings anymore. I never used my alt to post in the forums and I find it very annoying watching these people who do use many alts to argue with themselves and manipulate people of sound thinking into believeing the "community" is against them.

One forum poster per IP please! Let reality be.
Angel Leviathan
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Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 440
08-20-2004 09:34
From: someone
Originally posted by Jack Digeridoo
*waves at Angel and stares at his toes


Hey Jack, Sry I was out of contact for so long but I'm back now :)
Moleculor Satyr
Fireflies!
Join date: 5 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,650
08-20-2004 11:44
Seriously Angel, it isn't a good idea.
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Angel Leviathan
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Join date: 1 May 2003
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08-20-2004 11:53
From: someone
Originally posted by Moleculor Satyr
Seriously Angel, it isn't a good idea.


Seriously, I think its a very good idea and needed for the health of the community. What reasons can you offer besides that maybe a significant other or roomate can't post? If LL could make it so others in your home could post then would you support LL putting something in place to only allow one account per paying member to be used on the forums? If not, why not?
Wraith Jensen
I can walk thru walls....
Join date: 8 Aug 2004
Posts: 130
08-20-2004 12:29
From: someone
Originally posted by Angel Leviathan
Bump.

One poster per IP please.


Okay, I'm gonna bump YOU if you don't stop that.

Bumping threads is one piece of netiquette that should be clearly posted on every forum on the planet. It's probably against this forums TOS, and it's not, it's still extremely rude.

At least add something substantial when you bump.

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Okay, so here's my thing: first of all, I can't see how limiting forum postsings will actually do anybody any good. If someone has paid the extra money to have a second avatar, then I can't see any reason they shouldn't be given the same free speech rights as the rest of us. Not having an "anonymous" feature on the forum, there is no other way for a person to otherwise make a statement that might get him flamed.

Second, there are too many co-domiciled people using routers. This would limit their rights.

Third: since IP addresses do change, it's possible for someone to get clobbered because someone else on their ISP also posts on the forums.

Fourth: regardless of whether the user has 1 or 10 accounts, they still have to respect the CS and TOS on every one of those accounts , or they could indeed get a blanket ban or suspension.

So if you see someone violating the terms of service, then report that post. Linden is not here to be a Gestapo, or to be Angel's little Police Force. I can't think of a single good reason to block alt accounts from posting, and people have already given you several reasons why they SHOULD NOT be blocked.

You have yet to cite specific examples of abuse involving alt accounts on the forums, and until you do this and offer proof that it is indeed one person trolling with a second account, I can't see why anybody should take this suggestion seriously.
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Wraith Jensen
I can walk thru walls....
Join date: 8 Aug 2004
Posts: 130
08-20-2004 12:32
From: someone
Originally posted by Angel Leviathan
Seriously, I think its a very good idea and needed for the health of the community. What reasons can you offer besides that maybe a significant other or roomate can't post? If LL could make it so others in your home could post then would you support LL putting something in place to only allow one account per paying member to be used on the forums? If not, why not?



Because there's no way to enforce such a draconian idea.
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Angel Leviathan
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Join date: 1 May 2003
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08-20-2004 12:34
From: someone
Originally posted by Wraith Jensen
Okay, I'm gonna bump YOU if you don't stop that.

Bumping threads is one piece of netiquette that should be clearly posted on every forum on the planet. It's probably against this forums TOS, and it's not, it's still extremely rude.

At least add something substantial when you bump.

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Okay, so here's my thing: first of all, I can't see how limiting forum postsings will actually do anybody any good. If someone has paid the extra money to have a second avatar, then I can't see any reason they shouldn't be given the same free speech rights as the rest of us. Not having an "anonymous" feature on the forum, there is no other way for a person to otherwise make a statement that might get him flamed.

Second, there are too many co-domiciled people using routers. This would limit their rights.

Third: since IP addresses do change, it's possible for someone to get clobbered because someone else on their ISP also posts on the forums.

Fourth: regardless of whether the user has 1 or 10 accounts, they still have to respect the CS and TOS on every one of those accounts , or they could indeed get a blanket ban or suspension.

So if you see someone violating the terms of service, then report that post. Linden is not here to be a Gestapo, or to be Angel's little Police Force. I can't think of a single good reason to block alt accounts from posting, and people have already given you several reasons why they SHOULD NOT be blocked.

You have yet to cite specific examples of abuse involving alt accounts on the forums, and until you do this and offer proof that it is indeed one person trolling with a second account, I can't see why anybody should take this suggestion seriously.



I'll bump this thread as many times as I like until I get a response from LL. I am not seeking my own little police action or anything else that your mind has created. I am only asking that people not be able to destroy real debate in the forums by posting with multiple accounts which causes at a minimum, confusion.

LL please make it so only one account per paying member can post on the forums.
Moleculor Satyr
Fireflies!
Join date: 5 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,650
08-20-2004 15:40
From: someone
Originally posted by Angel Leviathan
Seriously, I think its a very good idea and needed for the health of the community. What reasons can you offer besides that maybe a significant other or roomate can't post? If LL could make it so others in your home could post then would you support LL putting something in place to only allow one account per paying member to be used on the forums? If not, why not?


1. Family/friends can't post in the same household.

2. College students in a dorm (an entire DORM) can't post.

3. Two legitimate, friendly alts of one person, who have friendly, decent behaviours and two seperate buisnesses can't post.

4. People who lose power for a few minutes and get a new IP couldn't post any more.

All for what? Protection from one or two alts that are already breaking other rules on these forums?

You'd take away abilities from far too many people, and probably double or worse LL's support requirements for handling complaints about access to the boards, making more work for LL.

If someone is breaking rules on these forums, or being generally rude (like you're doing by bumping your own thread when it's obvious it's dead), report the thread!
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Angel Leviathan
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08-20-2004 16:30
Moleculor

I would say you are the one being rude. Your opinion is now stated and I understand that you are against this idea. I do believe that LL can find a way to fix this problem that I believe is more widespread than you understand. Maybe you have alts to protect, who knows..
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