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Angel Leviathan
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07-27-2004 10:03
LL could you please cut down on the confusion that is sometimes created from people posting the same opinions with multiple accounts by only allowing one account per IP to post on the forums? Is it possible with this software?
Goshua Lament
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07-27-2004 10:09
What about people who use routers or are playing from internet cafes? Wouldn't that be unfair to them?
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Darwin Appleby
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07-27-2004 12:53
It's not that you can't have the same account from a different IP, it's just that you can't have more than one account on the same IP.
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Hank Ramos
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07-27-2004 12:57
If you are going to do this, which I don't agree with, you should restrict it to one account per Network Adapter MAC Address, not IP Address.
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Angel Leviathan
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07-27-2004 13:32
From: someone
Originally posted by Hank Ramos
If you are going to do this, which I don't agree with, you should restrict it to one account per Network Adapter MAC Address, not IP Address.


Ok for those who don't know, like me, what is the difference?
Khamon Fate
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07-27-2004 13:41
one ip address can be assigned to a router that several computers are using to communicate with the internet. all of their traffic seems to come from that single ip.

mac addresses are uniquely assigned to every network card produced on the planet.

now where did i put that official endorsment stamp?
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Kris Ritter
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07-27-2004 13:52
yeah, I could go with MAC address, but not IP. Several people use my connection. And I dont see why they shouldnt be able to post if they wanna. Mind u, they aren't mouthy morons like me, so they prolly dont wanna. But if they did...
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Angel Leviathan
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07-27-2004 14:56
So how do people feel about only allowing one mac address to post on the SL forums?
Hawk Statosky
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07-27-2004 14:58
Nice idea, Hank, but AFIAK MAC info goes *splat* as soon as it hits a router.

:(

(feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
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Angel Leviathan
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07-27-2004 15:00
From: someone
Originally posted by Hawk Statosky
Nice idea, Hank, but AFIAK MAC info goes *splat* as soon as it hits a router.

:(


What does that mean?
Kris Ritter
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07-27-2004 15:04
From: someone
Originally posted by Hawk Statosky
Nice idea, Hank, but AFIAK MAC info goes *splat* as soon as it hits a router.

:(


Oh crap. LOL. Didn't think of that.

What it means, Angel, is that although each computer's network card will have a unique MAC address, the router which you'd go through to join up your multiple PC's to the one connection ALSO has a MAC address, or will clone one of the other two thus merging them into one.

Therefore this wouldnt' work as a solution either.
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Angel Leviathan
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07-27-2004 15:07
So back to my original post. Can LL please only allow one IP per forum poster?
Hawk Statosky
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07-27-2004 15:09
As far as I understand it, Angel, the MAC address gets overwritten by each router it passes through, whilst the originating IP address stays the same.
It's to allow devices that are directly connected in a network sense to keep track of one another. Er. Sort of.
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Hawk Statosky
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07-27-2004 15:10
Dang. Didn't see your reply.

I could cope with some kind of time-restriction on posting (once per x minutes per topic), perhaps.

Other ideas?
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Hank Ramos
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07-27-2004 16:09
From: someone
Originally posted by Hawk Statosky
Nice idea, Hank, but AFIAK MAC info goes *splat* as soon as it hits a router.

:(

(feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)


Ahh, right. I was thinking of the SL client, which could read and pass that info along. Wasn't thinking of the forums.
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Ricercar Neville
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07-27-2004 16:51
From: someone
Originally posted by Angel Leviathan
So back to my original post. Can LL please only allow one IP per forum poster?

I can't buy into this from any direction.

If only one avatar could post per IP (your intended request) then family members cannot post individually from the household router/cable/DSL modem. This is unacceptable.

If only one IP was allowed for posting per avatar (your quoted request), then one could not post from the office, and also post from home. This is unacceptable.

I appreciate the sentiment, but not the cost of implementation.

How often does self-aggrandizing multi-avatar posting occur, anyway?
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Angel Leviathan
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07-27-2004 18:40
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Originally posted by Ricercar Neville
How often does self-aggrandizing multi-avatar posting occur, anyway?


Thats what I would like to know.
Angel Leviathan
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07-28-2004 08:12
Bump.

One poster per IP please.
Siggy Romulus
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07-29-2004 22:18
Big thumbs down -- that would mean that either myself or my wife could post on the forums.

Seeing how we both pay for accounts and play, we should both be able to post on the forums.

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His Grace
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Join date: 23 Apr 2004
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07-29-2004 22:52
no to one forum post per ip.

my boyfriend and i share a router, which might suffer from this.

also, i some times post from campus, a friend's house, and other non-home networks. if someone else is assigned that ip address, then i wouldn't be able to post from my laptop.

also, people with multiple network access would probably be able to get around this prohibition.
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Michi Lumin
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08-02-2004 14:07
Same here. It'd be a real problem. Liam Roark and I share the same connection thanks to 802.11 wireless.

Angel, People *do* have roommate situations, where both roommates are indeed different people with different accounts. (Edit: And they often don't hold anywhere near the same opinion.)

I'm sure there are LOTS of people who got onto SL, and encouraged someone else in their household to get an account, too. I don't think it's a rarity. Under your proposal you'd have to designate a "forum representative by household".

I don't think that'd work.
Strife Onizuka
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08-02-2004 16:05
putting a restriction like this will only make people unhappy. The problem isn't big enough to warrant this solution.
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Paolo Portocarrero
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08-03-2004 13:10
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Originally posted by Strife Onizuka
putting a restriction like this will only make people unhappy. The problem isn't big enough to warrant this solution.

Agreed and well said.
Kurt Zidane
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Join date: 1 Apr 2004
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08-05-2004 14:00
To Really keep an eye on who's using multiple account. I think some one would have to do more then banning double ip login. If all they do is band double ip login, all that will happen is the people who are abusing the system. Will sign up for isp that give user 5 ip address instead of a single ip.

I think there are better ways, such as requiring a valid driver license id, that matches the name of the credit card holder. And do not let people pay through anonymous services such paypal. Work with omg to watch for possible duplicate accounts, and create a system of login statistics, commuter keys, and money transfers to analyze accounts activity. There is a hole range of statistics tools that an be used against mulling.

I think they should take multiple account very seriously, and back up their option with good procedures. Other wise they should just admit they can't take the time to properly police, and allow people to have as many accounts as they want. Because multiple account give those players a huge advantage over every one else.
Essence Lumin
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08-05-2004 18:59
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I think there are better ways, such as requiring a valid driver license id, that matches the name of the credit card holder.


That will never happen and god help us if it did. A new player - "I just heard about this cool new game but they want me to fax them a picture of my driver's license.". I don't think so.
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