Windows 2000: Do you think Second Life Should Stop Support for Windows 2000

Well, you learned something new: Windows 2000 is still supported by Microsoft, and still has a substantial user community. It's NOT a dinosaur because it has a number of advantages over XP and Vista.

And Windows 2000 still has better nVidia driver support then Linux.

I dont understand Linux. How i say, i am an invalide. i am happy that i can understand microsoft products... it was hard enough to learn these. now i must lern linux?? only while lindenlabs will stopp the suport? no way. sry... but then i need mor than an year to understand linux.

and i dont use windows 2000 for bot's, or i dont us sl only as fun... sl is the only chance who i has, to can work and earn an little bit money.

you must knew, i comming from switzerland. in swizerland whe are in the stoneage with computing learning. and also... for pay an school or linux lessions, that i can understand it... i dont has the money.

so i say it again.

DONT STOP THE SUPORT.

thanks

Sayonara Shamara.

The support for Windows 2000 will stop eventually (it has virtually everywhere else). This thread should probably be considered your heads up to that effect. Now would probably be a good time to start your "upgrade to the supported OS of your choice" fund.

Oh, XP people, you're next. You and whatever PPC Mac users are still left.

Keep it up until nVidia ships drivers that Just Work on Linux.

It's Linux, aren't you supposed to write your own drivers or something?

You know, Milla, there's a reason I'm using Mac OS X and Windows 2000 for my desktop, and free UNIX for my servers.

Windows 2000 is an OK desktop. Mac OS X is a great one. Windows XP and later and Linux are ... well, less than OK for various reasons.

On the other hand, Windows makes for a really horrid server. REALLY horrid. I'd rather use SCO Unixware, and if you'd ever done that... well, just don't.

no your reading the random "win 2k is SOOOO 2k fuck it" posts

what your not seeing is that win 2k is 99% the same as XP,

THE ONLY REASON TO STOP SUPPORTING IT is for tech support, which YOU DO NOT PROVIDE, you dont even provide documentation to your own software, comeon man

im not really against dropping support for 2k, eventho it is out of ms mainstream(altho not extended) support, im MORE worried that your going to shoot yourselves in the foot doing so

heres the reality of it

you (as LL not you directly) publicly announce that SL WILL run on almost decade old hardware

sooo while your still supporting P3 ~ 850 mhz and ati 9550's you will NOT support the mainstream consumer OS that runs best on those machines?

the API in windows 2000, is a direct copy in windows XP, they use the same drivers, and even support all the same software, minus IE7 and Quicktime which are both not your problems, would it not be easier to write a footnote, or OMG update your system requirements than add in win2k blocking functions to the core client software???

could you not use that wasted effort for a SMALL minority of people to actually come up with a official non beta linux client, or even a better mac client ???

just let it die off, or in other words keep your friggin pants on, spend the time you would WASTE killing 2k support, for NO REAL REASON on something usefull, like oh i dunno a client that wasnt hard rooted in 1999?

please dont waste your time on this, you have bigger fish to fry

just crumple up that post-it note and quit looking like your doing something, and ACTUALLY do something

sl 2.0 its been nearly 3 damn years ... forum upgrade, Jeebus give me a backup of the files and the database (its encrypted anyways, if your not retarded) ill do it in a weekend, its taken you nearly 2 years, hell give us simple chmod style permissions that people have been bitching about for well before i started this account (i started sl in 2003 and it was a old topic then)

do something fkin useful FOR GODS SAKE

thanks

-- Osgeld

Maybe you do this, but how many users out there do that, too? Reading the comments in this thread is sometimes like geek-talk to me, not about the Win2K support in general, as it was intended.

Celina
XP SP II

cool.. i actually went from win 95 as my home pc to xp. the old win 95 is the one that runs ubuntu.. (i recently got a hdd installed with vista..although i like xp better..)

rofl, yes you can if you how to...
I have to admit, im a little computer illiterate when it comes to that sort of thing...

Well, it's a deeply technical issue.

OMG!

The best OS for SL.
But Linden canel it.

Better or worse?

Worse!

Oh, yeah... W2000 is so good for SL. An insecure quicktime, no security updates unless you pay for them (and even that won't be an option soon), Radeon drivers that don't support VBO. At least the Linux version uses gstreamer instead of quicktime, and all supported OSs going forward have security updates, vendor support and drivers that work...

This has to be the most ridiculous troll post I have ever read.

Before anyone starts believing him and saying "wow, look what he said, we must drop support now!", I'll tell you it's all FUD.

Security updates are still FREEly available from Microsoft until 2010.

Second Life does not let you use the old Quicktime so that doesn't matter. Nobody likes Quicktime anyway.

From what I understand you can install and use XP drivers with little problems, and the last nvidia drivers that were for 2000 work great.

Nerfing support for Win2k will likely have zero impact on the improving the performance of WinXP, Vista, Linux or MAC. It's no magic bullet. QA at LL is dubious at best.

Quicktime and IE7 are not supported under Win2k... well whoopdie-doo. I don't run either in WinXP either. They are both horrible applications and completely useless for my needs.

Win2k is an excellent OS, despite it's age and support status. For those inclined, there are any number of third-party applications, codecs and drivers capable of doing most anything. Not all, but some run much better than other OS.

While only 1% of SL residents use Win2k, it's wrong to flip off those users needlessly. A percent here and a percent there adds up. Along with the other 1%'s out there, it's another nail in the coffin of the endless stream of needlessly pushing uses aside.

If LL decides to discontinue support, at the very least provide an archive for a "last generation" client for those who either cannot afford an new system/OS or for those who are able to run it effectively.

They do:

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Old_versions

Using the -channel command you can continue to run the current viewer (or older releases) without being forced to upgrade.

Yes it should be dropped.

I'm frankly surprised it is still supported. If people don't want to run Vista, that's fine, run XP instead. Any PC that will run SL will run XP very happily, and it is as stable, and as secure as 2k. (in 2 years time it will of course be more secure)

Why the decision was not taken at the same time support for OS X Panther was discontinued is beyond me.

I don't have a problem with QuickTime. Perhaps because the Operating System I choose to run supports it natively, however having used it on Windows I can understand their frustrations to an extent.

You're having a laugh. XP is now a better OS to 2K IMO. Vista OTOH I wouldn't touch with a 6' barge pole.

And if you think XP is too slow, turn off the themes service.

The desktop reverts to classic and a bunch of system resources are saved

Even if you turn off *everything* you can, XP has more background threads than 2k. And, of course, it comes with all the DRM "enhancements" from Windows Media Player 9.1 baked into the kernel... it's not as extreme a situation as Vista, but it's the start of the slippery slope, and even if you get the "Media Player Free" build of XP it's still got a lot of that stuff... and you can't turn it off.

I vote to drop Windowss 2000 support so engineers can move on to other work which will benefit a much larger group of Residents.

I vote to keep win2k as it comes in handy for those of us that do still use it in a production setting.