Unfair Practices at the Lab

Sometimes it is the store you shop at being in a high fraud category.

I finally asked them after repeated shutdowns after normal shopping, "Why did you not shut my card when I was on vacation & it was used in Los Angeles, New York, & London within one day but you keep shutting it down whenever I go to the local outlet mall?"

The answer was that everytime I went to the outlet mall I had made a purchase at a popular designer store, and that is what flagged it. Even though they were not big purchases, it was considered a high fraud store.

I have also had 9.95 monthly premium charges from LL prompt this kind of shutdown on my credit cards.

Hmm, that person must be a LL employee. Sounds like classic disinformation.

Anyway, I have heard from my friend, and he has consented to having his Avatar's Identity revealed. However, since LL has a strict 'no naming names' policy in place, I'll be making a followup post on my blog.

And it's up. Keep in mind his profile won't show up in people search since he's banned. It may show up in search all. maybe I'll post a screenshot of it on the blog, come to think of it.

http://dariencaldwell.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/lls-secret-shame-continued/

Imo, you are absolutely on the mark.

This happened to an ESC person, for much smaller amounts, simply for paying her employees. TWICE it happened to her.

There is no reason for them not to at least send an e-mail to the person they have banned, with contact numbers to dispute it.

There is no reason, none, period. It is absolutely unconscionable, imo.

coco

What a super-crap forum post

Is there some sort of secret thing between you two, or are you just like this to other people all the time?


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Nevermind, I missed that line before and didn't realize it was comedy. Thanks for the chuckles

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Yep, more twaddle. You realize you have no substantive arguments, so you resort to rhetoric. Enjoy your mindless bandwagon, anyone with any sense reading your post will realize it is twaddle.

What rot. Having met some later banned folks, their names DO SHOW UP IN SEARCH. Maybe after a long time, and maybe after a perma-ban, maybe it goes away, but that would mean your "friend" appealed and was turned down. So:

No find in search EQUALS not believable.

Of course you could use an alt to maintain your fiction.

Try blogging something useful, something with consequence, it is fun to bash Lindens (I know, I like it too), but your post was just useless.

I thought you weren't going to read her posts any more anyway?
Here: I quoted where you said it in case you forgot.

You seem angry...

Thanks Snowflake I WAS referring to her BLOG posts, but I guess you missed that.

It starts: "What a super-crap blog post." Why would you think I'm talking about anything else lol. But perhaps typical of Darien's readership...

Yeah I just saw where you said her posts.

So what I don't get here is this Darien man/woman/thing gets to spew venom. Let's recap from his/her/its article:

"Is this any way to treat your paying customers? ban them without cause, give them no recourse, and on top of that, steal their money, which they paid for out of their own pocket? Is this what LL has stooped to being, a common petty thief?"

So let's get this straight: it is ok to engage in libel -- calling LL a "common petty thief" and stating without substantiation that LL does "steal their money" is LIBEL in a LEGAL sense -- and this is just hunky-dory with everybody. Everbody (the sheep) nod their heads sagely and curse the devil-spawn Linden Labs.

And somehow I'm the angry one because I smell BS? Because somehow I'm not sucked in? Because I trust LL about 100x more than Darien? Because I see a work of fiction for what it is? Because I think twaddle like this deserves no audience (or perhaps an audience for those easily conned, or perhaps just the not-very-bright folk)?

They are questions, though, not blanket satements. She did not call LL a "common petty thief" and say that they steal money, she asked if they were. Yes it is rhetoric but that is her style of writing. It's certainly your prerogative to be unhappy about it but your posts seem inordinately angry at someone who is posting her own opinions on her own blog.

FYI I feel that LL could do some big time improvements in their treatment of customers as well. A few weeks ago a LL representative promised me a refund on my new sim so I sent it back, only to be told later "sorry, no refund". I couldn't get anyone to help me for days and I was out a substantial amount of money AND my sim, so I don't doubt that these kinds of actions do take place, since I have experienced having US $ taken from me by LL and not being able to get any help with the situation.

To be fair my money was eventually refunded but when they do something like that it does not inspire consumer confidence, and I also wondered for a few days if they were thieves. When someone takes your money and doesn't give you the promised item you have to question their integrity.

I used to trust LL too but after my experience with them I have no doubt in my mind that a banning could have happened and the person can't get an answer from LL.

My own personal experience has lessened my trust for the company, thus I am more inclined to believe when I see similar tales of woe.

Let's see, it said "they stole his money, banned his account." That does not sound like a question -- I found a good link you need to check out:

http://www.time4learning.com/readingpyramid/Comprehension.htm

When you are done with that, we'll get around to discussing the rest of your (non-blog) post.

I realize having a filter called "common sense" puts me in the minority in this thread/forum, but who cares what sheep think?

Who is spouting twaddle here? I just had a friend go through this exact thing. Her account was suspended without notice and for transferring much less L$ even.

Her profile did NOT show up in search, she did NOT show up in ANY of her groups, including the ones SHE created.

As soon as she got her account squared with the Lindens, two weeks later I might add, she magically re-appeared in all those places.

And, no, she is not a crook, or a money launderer.

Please get your facts straight before accusing others of spouting "twaddle".

I think I will pass on your link and on any further discussion with you. You seem like a very angry person looking for a fight with anyone who does not worship the ground the Lindens walk upon.

As for reading comprehension you seem to have missed the part of the blog where Darien states that she is speaking her mind. Speaking one's mind in one's personal blog is known as free speech and is protected by the US Constitution. If you feel it is libel by all means I encourage you to take all necessary legal steps on the Lindens' behalf to protect them.

Aw, give up so easily? Not believing BS is not the same as "worshipping the ground LL walks on". And despite the fact that LL likely will not pursue libel against fly scat like Darien's blog (recognizing it is worthless), it does not change the fact it is libel.

If I post to the internet that you steal money, is that protected speech really? If I phone your boss, and tell her/him you stole from your last employer, is that free speech -- no consequences, really?

Like I said, common sense...

P.S.: Why am I branded as angry, and not Darien?

Lol who? I don't believe you -- a friend of mine was suspended and still shows in search.

Because, rather than simply explaining why you disagreed with the post in a civil manner, you chose to deride both the OP and anyone else who subsequently questioned you?

Allow me to rephrase my question: WTF?!?!?

P.S. Also, you're wrong. My partner, our mutual friend, and one of my tenants were all autobanned by the RiskAPI and all three of them disappeared out of Search > People until they called LL and got their accounts turned back on. Search All might still show suspended accounts because it's often up to 3 days out-of-date.

That would give peopel who are doing fruad and scamming time to move/redirect the money a nother or many other directions.

That would not be smart to give warnings.

I waz here.

Revising my last supposition:
Sometimes days just have bad people.

That "Add Fia Tyne to Your Ignore List" button is pretty sweet.

I agree but, the problem here is that there is no notification of the ban/suspension at all. And, once you do find you have been suspended, it can take you days of fighting the LL runaround trying to get to someone that can actually help.


Everyone wants to see fraud stopped in its tracks. But, when someone is flagged for the act of simply transferring L$ to themselves, as in an alternate avatar, there should be a clear notification of what happened with a phone number that will take you directly to the people that can help straighten it out.

I have had the honor of ARing griefer alts that deserve summary banning. They usually disappear from Search immediately upon banning - sometimes it has been as little as a few minutes after filing the AR.

Your confident assertion of something I know to be false is yet another marker calling for a public service announcement:

TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT! DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS! THANK YOU.

This has been a public service announcement. We now return to our regular thread-posting.

Exactly my point, troll blogs like Darien's should not be supported.

It is amazing how the bandwagon continues to roll on though, despite common sense and reason.

P.S.: Wildefire Walcott I love how you quote my posts in their entirety and add "wtf" with some random typing, an effective use of space. Why don't you ask "wtf" about hate-spewing fiction like Darien's blog?