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Raymond Figtree
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04-30-2007 11:12
“He who does not have the courage to speak up for his rights cannot earn the respect of others.” --Rene G. Torres

http://www.projectopenletter.com

http://secondlife.reuters.com/stories/2007/04/30/business-leaders-press-linden-lab-on-second-life-glitches/
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Ashlynn Dawn
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04-30-2007 11:15
"Linden Lab was not immediately available for comment."

Ive yet to read the entire letter...but this part just made me snicker.
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good for you, Raymond
04-30-2007 11:16
:)
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Susanne Pascale
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04-30-2007 11:22
Hooray for Rueters, Anshe Chung, Aimee Weber and the rest!! LL may no tlisten to us, but I think they WILL listen to them and the negative publicity may will inspire LL to be less complacent! Hoo ray hoo ray!!!!
Sys Slade
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04-30-2007 11:30
From: someone
growing from a small community of early adopters to a platform supporting millions of users.

It can barely "support" 40,000 :p
Shara Holiday
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04-30-2007 11:32
a great letter...! i think LL is trying to do all the above..but.. isnt there a saying?. "you have to spend money to make money?..i sometimes think LL is using alot of duck tape and glue. things will get better hopefully :)
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04-30-2007 12:24
*moves to RRW*
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04-30-2007 13:17
bumparoo ! keep it up peeps :D
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04-30-2007 13:18
From: Strife Onizuka
*moves to RRW*

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SuezanneC Baskerville
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04-30-2007 14:03
How do we know the people listed actually "signed" the letter?

I have a pretty good sized list of avatar names, maybe I should create some open letters. :p
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Wilhelm Neumann
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04-30-2007 14:15
well try to sign it twice you will see what happens :)
Cindy Crabgrass
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04-30-2007 14:46
Hmm... it wont do Miracles, but its for a good Cause.
*signs* :)
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04-30-2007 14:56
From: Wilhelm Neumann
well try to sign it twice you will see what happens :)

it only sets a cookie to prevent repeat signature entries, so that's easily circumvented.
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04-30-2007 15:02
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
How do we know the people listed actually "signed" the letter?

I have a pretty good sized list of avatar names, maybe I should create some open letters. :p

maybe i'm too trusting, but i think the first thousand or so votes are 99% genuine. I'm not so sure after that, given the addition of a certain person's name ;) without her knowledge..and the news now leaking about how easy the signing process is to compromise.
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04-30-2007 15:49
One could add all the Linden's names. :D
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Wilhelm Neumann
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04-30-2007 15:55
well i guess we have to go on honour although it might be a bad idea but I dunno. Figured it worked on cookies didn't actualy try left it for someone else to ^^

considering LL will probably want 1.5 million signatures to even look at the thing I think we are safe ^^ (yes I know those user numbers aren't real but..)
Walker Moore
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04-30-2007 16:05
From: Wilhelm Neumann
well i guess we have to go on honour although it might be a bad idea but I dunno. Figured it worked on cookies didn't actualy try left it for someone else to ^^

if you're using firefox (not sure about ie), it's easy to check (tools > options > privacy tab) without fraudulently adding a signature.

it's a laudable idea IMO, and i'm glad to be a part of it. I just hope people are nice enough to respect the time it must have taken to formulate, by signing it once only.
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04-30-2007 19:00
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
How do we know the people listed actually "signed" the letter?

I have a pretty good sized list of avatar names, maybe I should create some open letters. :p


It is not a legally binding document, so adding levels of authentication to it seemed overkill - many online petitions do not ask for anything but your name and email. I have watched the list for anamolies, and there are some background things in place to notice any patterns of abuse. The more well known names on the list were also contacted directly by me to confirm if I did not ask them myself to sign and hear back from them. If someone wants to ruin an effort like this by being a jerk and spamming it, there is not a whole lot I can do - it was preferrable to have the signature process be as convenient as possible.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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04-30-2007 23:00
From: Cristiano Midnight
If someone wants to ruin an effort ... by being a jerk
Such a thing is beyond conception. :D

I made a post in my Letters to Linden Lab blog and linked to it and included the full text of it the letter and signed the letter. With ony one name. ;)

I went to sluniverse.com to check out the forum and saw that sluniverse's homepage is changed to promote the Open Letter project.

Do you have a list of other SL homepage's that have also changed their main site in a similar manner?

Anyone have any Open Letter Project goodies like shirts and dresses and such?
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Raymond Figtree
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LL has opened the letter!
04-30-2007 23:31
http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/04/30/project-open-letter/

Wait, can you open an open letter?
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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05-01-2007 00:16
Possibly they picked the open letter up and held in front of their faces such that they could read it. Alternately, perhaps the opening of the open letter was a miracle. An internet miracle. Internet miracles aren't quite as impressive as real miracles

There's no reason to stop signing it just because LL responded.

The time to stop signing such a letter might be after ALL the bugs are fixed.

Including the illegible text and the oversized sun.
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Ken March
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05-01-2007 01:55
Raymond, Thanks for ur writing.. and i ever had the problems with Find and Friends List and Grid stability and performance. I hope this get better soon..

From: Raymond Figtree
“He who does not have the courage to speak up for his rights cannot earn the respect of others.” --Rene G. Torres

http://www.projectopenletter.com

http://secondlife.reuters.com/stories/2007/04/30/business-leaders-press-linden-lab-on-second-life-glitches/
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05-01-2007 01:57
well looks like this thread will be closing soon :rolleyes:
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05-01-2007 03:08
From: Walker Moore
maybe i'm too trusting, but i think the first thousand or so votes are 99% genuine. I'm not so sure after that, given the addition of a certain person's name ;) without her knowledge..and the news now leaking about how easy the signing process is to compromise.


Well in any case we got some result so it was worth it and from the resposes we could have probably had another 1500 sign in too, I could have signed all my alts, but I didn't, but then they are SL residents too :)

Should alts have voting rights too? :)
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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05-01-2007 04:42
The rapid response from Linden Lab may have been an attempt to keep the number of signers from becoming much much larger.

Those who agree with the intent of the letter should still sign it.
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