SLProfiles Multi Tabs

We received a lot of positive comments from our members after we launched our mini profiles. As always, we asked what other features they would like to see and received input from several of our members on how to further expand our mini profiles. Last week, we implemented one idea allowing you to organize your mini profile better (you can choose what is displayed in your mini profile and where). A few days ago, we've implemented another great idea from one of our members called SLProfiles Multi Tabs. Just like before, you can add your own profile, but now you can also add your photo albums, custom created web pages (we've got a little html editor to assist you with this), customizable RSS Feeds (you can change the colors), links to other sites, and so on. Depending on your requests, we'll keep expanding these multi tabs and as always on SLProfiles.com - this service is FREE.

More information can be found at:
http://www.slprofiles.com/secondlifemultitabs.asp

CYA,
Yo Brewster

Wow. After all the drama with SLStats, I thought you'd understand what it felt like to have an idea of yours taken, but damn. You go and do it to Cristiano. Tis the season, eh?

/signed

I've been beta testing SLTabs since before the profile browser came out, and all I can say is if you were going to rip someone off, at least be different?

This is blatently identical in both design and aesthetic to what Cristiano announced long before you did.

If you haven't contacted him already to apologize you might want to soon.

The COPYBOT GOT CRIS!

I think maybe it would have been cool for Yo Brewster to mix up the features a bit. Maybe the tabs could have gone down one side rather than at the top ... or SOMETHING that would be different. I love competition in the market but duplication is less interesting to me.

About the SLStats thingy - I never cared about somebody creating the same service, ONLY about the same name. It's hard to brand something if somebody else is using the same name. Besides, it's not like the SLStats idea was that unique in the first place. X-Fire has been doing it for years -- only theirs wasn't geared to SL alone so it would be kinda dumb for me to be mad about that! LOL

Same idea on the tabs? When we first launched the mini profiles, I wanted to create tabs so people could create a biz profile (since ppl have been asking about this) and a personal profile at the same time. I couldn't figure out what a business really wanted on their profile (since there are so many different kind of businesses in SL) so I decided to build something that would allow people to create their own web pages which is how it all started. Then our members started to ask how they could arrange their profile and how they could hide content. The idea of the tabs kept coming back BUT since I can't place ads on tabs and therefore make no revenue, I decided not to launch my idea. However, when I saw what Cristiano was working on, I realized I had no choice but to finish up what I started. Why? To stay on top of things! The RSS Feeds and the idea of counting the number of hits, I got from him - all the rest is I'm sure unique to SLProfiles as our mini profiles, mini blogs, mini albums, mini comments pages were available nearly a month before the web tab was launched so I'm not sure how anybody could EVER say that those things are identical copies. Wouldn't it be dumb not to implement ideas of others into my project to make them from good to great? If that would be the case, then nobody should create a blog site any more because somebody already did and I'm sure they have the same style however not the same content just like it is with my tab implementation. Look at the sites that sell/buy second life merchandise? Who copied who's idea? Wouldn't it be logic for me to launch this service as well in the web tabs or do I need to be worried about other attacking me about that as well?

Tabs on the side don't make any sense due to the size of the window. The tabs don't even look the same, they're just located in the same spot. The content of ALL tabs are different.

Yo I'm amazed how fast you were able to implement this. Great work and don't worry about what others are saying!!!!

Right, cos silly little concerns like copyright and IP violations are stupid!

YEAH! His tabs are square! And white! And yours are grey! Totally different!

It's not ba da da da da dum da, it's ba da da da da DUM da!

Facts:
1) the use of tabs would have to be patented for it to be a violation (a design patent would have to exist)
2) it's an obvious solution, a patent would (should) not be granted for it. Tabs have been a common window api control for more then 15 years.

Please refrain from trolling.

Butt out from conversations that don't concern you.

Please refrain from annoying me.

Just noticed on my explorer browser..there's a button that says "add tab" ..did microsoft steal that idea too?

We're not talking about the "concept," here.

Cristiano came up with this specific design long before Yo did, and Yo's version is nearly aesthetically identical, with little significant changes whatsoever, to Cristiano's version.

Like the little tabs on my browser window you mean? That idea?

If I write a poem, and then someone else writes the same poem after seeing my original one but changes three words, that's theft.

What you're arguing is that somehow Cristiano created the concept of poetry and Yo wrote a poem, which isn't the case. Yo ripped Cris off.

Sorry but it looks to me like Cris ripped microsoft off.

Right, because Microsoft designed a tabbed profile browser for Second Life before he did.

You're again back to the concept. If I make mouthwash I'm not ripping off Listerine. If I make mouthwash based on Listerine's formula but change an ingredient, I'm stealing. The latter scenario is what happened.

The tabs look the same whether they are in my explorer browser or my SL profile browser (which is basically what it is). Gotta go..don't have any more time to argue with you..I was just making a point..they do look the same and it seems to me the idea came from there. That's all.

I have thought about how I wanted to respond to this. Yo is certainly correct that more than one site can develop the same idea. There are all kinds of online stores, for example (or the dubious blog example Yo gave). I suppose what bothered me here is how blatantly the idea and feature set were copied. It was one thing for Yo to add the ability to have multiple tabs of content from his own site, that makes sense in the purpose of his site and is definitely important for growing the site. He went beyond that and created a general purpose tab service that replicates exactly the features of my site (and he even acknowledges doing so) and that is what bothers me, though there is nothing I can do about it. It is not going to stop me from continuing what I am working on and continue to add innovative features - if Yo wants to continue to copy what I add to it, that is his choice. I like slprofiles and have been supportive of it and will remain so.

BTW, all the arguing about who invented tabs is not the issue. InternetWorks was the first to add tabs for web browsers in 1994 - tabs have been used in many operating systems as well. Netcaptor, an IE based browser, added them in 1998, and Opera added them in 2000 (contrary to belief, Mozilla did not come up with them).

You're sure it's your lack of time or the fact that you're going back to whichever alt you belong to? I'm honored that you wasted your first four posts to fight with me. But it's better to argue when you're on your actual account.

Joshua I have 2 accts yes.. I have never posted here on either one.. My alts name if you really want to know is Jaxi Morrison.. and irl Yo is my husband. I don't see what the big deal is here..there is no money being made..there is no contest being held over this. Yo offered a service for the people on his site...that's all. In a year nobody will even care who offered first. Do you really think these 2 people will be the only ones to offer it? Please I am sure there will be many more.

I have to be really honest here Cristiano -- I did NOT know that you created a general purpose tab. Do you mean you have a little web editor available for people to create their own web pages like I do? The RSS Feed idea did come from your site and I'm not going to lie about that. When creating a tab approach where you allow people to customize their content, it's kinda normal to allow them to create their own web pages especially because it's so easy to do. Like I said, I wanted to do the biz tab but since nobody could tell me what would be usefull for them and everybody I talked to had a different idea on them, I decided to allow people to create their own web pages. The entire wizard approach I took actually came from one of my other sites called www.dggpro.com which allows people to create their own website.

This kinda reminds me of the day I launched SLProfiles.com --- "everybody" was saying that I got the idea from me.com. I never mentioned this before (because I didn't feel it was relevant at the time), the base of SLProfiles.com actually came from another profile site I created a LONG time ago called TSOProfiles.com.

Ok back to the topic here. First of all I think Cristiano is a very creative person and I've always been a very big fan of his work. I wish at some point we can actually work together but I guess we're both so involved in so many projects that a thing like that is sometimes hard to accomplish. The tab approach Cristiano took is not as unique as some of you might think and I wish I could have shown what I started of with back in Sep/Oct but that is rather unimportant at this point. I'm not going to lie here - if I'm sure an idea that somebody created is great and will fit within the SLPRofiles site (and I'm convinced our members will benefit from it), I will implement it as well OF COURSE customized to fit the needs of our members which is what I did with the tabs. Not implementing such ideas because I would have to be worried about what others would say would simply be insane and that's simply not gonna happen. Do the tabs look the same? Duh - of course the graphic looks the same BUT the implementation and the content of all tabs are VERY unique to our site. I don't feel I did anything wrong and I will continue to provide the tools our members are requesting.

Ok - gotta reply to this one cause that doesn't even make sense at all. Besides, don't you know that rolling your eyes is rude? LOL - anyway - the CONTENT of our tabs is different and so is the entire approach on how to implement them. Before you call somebody a thief, you might want to check out what they did before you post your comments here.