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Neehai Zapata
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01-28-2005 04:47
This is three and the numbers will only get larger. It does make me a little annoyed that my tax dollars are being used to pay journalists to write stories against homosexuality.

So we have a huge deficit and Bush is spending money hand over fist to pay people to like him? Wow, the silver spoon syndrome is worse than I thought.

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One day after President Bush ordered his Cabinet secretaries to stop hiring commentators to help promote administration initiatives, and one day after the second high-profile conservative pundit was found to be on the federal payroll, a third embarrassing hire has emerged. Salon has confirmed that Michael McManus, a marriage advocate whose syndicated column, "Ethics & Religion," appears in 50 newspapers, was hired as a subcontractor by the Department of Health and Human Services to foster a Bush-approved marriage initiative. McManus championed the plan in his columns without disclosing to readers he was being paid to help it succeed.

Responding to the latest revelation, Dr. Wade Horn, assistant secretary for children and families at HHS, announced Thursday that HHS would institute a new policy that forbids the agency from hiring any outside expert or consultant who has any working affiliation with the media. "I needed to draw this bright line," Horn tells Salon. "The policy is being implemented and we're moving forward."

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/01/27/mcmanus/index.html
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01-28-2005 05:16
Not suprising.
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Neehai Zapata
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01-28-2005 05:39
Yes, not surprising at all. Bush has doubled PR spending in this administration.

I tell you, being fiscally conservative sure does cost a lot of money!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=710&ncid=703&e=5&u=/usatoday/20050127/pl_usatoday/reportprspendingdoubledunderbush
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01-28-2005 08:26
From: Neehai Zapata
Yes, not surprising at all. Bush has doubled PR spending in this administration.

I tell you, being fiscally conservative sure does cost a lot of money!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=710&ncid=703&e=5&u=/usatoday/20050127/pl_usatoday/reportprspendingdoubledunderbush


OMG, yes! I am horrified by the lack of fiscal responsibility displayed by this administration...
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01-28-2005 08:34
And Bush points the finger elsewhere and cries "Innocent!' yet again. Anyone keeping score? I think this is about the 539th time he's placed the blame on those around him and acted dumbfounded and suprised? Jeez..you would think they would find a new act, for art's sake if nothing else.
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01-28-2005 08:48
Or at least have someone ask, "If you can't manage your own Cabinet, how can you manage the country or the world."

The buck never stops for Dubya.
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01-28-2005 08:54
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And Bush points the finger elsewhere and cries "Innocent!' yet again. Anyone keeping score? I think this is about the 539th time he's placed the blame on those around him and acted dumbfounded and suprised? Jeez..you would think they would find a new act, for art's sake if nothing else.


It scares me a bit, well alot, how Bush thinks playing ignorant some how makes him look more credible.

ohh and Nee...that is only if the buck isn't his.
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01-28-2005 16:31
Ok, exactly how many of our tax dollars have gone straight to Fox News? Don't answer... Wait for it... Wait for it...
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01-28-2005 17:48
From: Neehai Zapata
This is three and the numbers will only get larger. It does make me a little annoyed that my tax dollars are being used to pay journalists to write stories against homosexuality.

So we have a huge deficit and Bush is spending money hand over fist to pay people to like him? Wow, the silver spoon syndrome is worse than I thought.


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/01/27/mcmanus/index.html


God, if I see another article against homosexuality I might just stop doing it. :p
Neehai Zapata
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01-28-2005 18:39
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God, if I see another article against homosexuality I might just stop doing it.

It's not so much the topic but that tax dollars are being used to fund the "press".
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01-28-2005 18:49
From: Neehai Zapata
It's not so much the topic but that tax dollars are being used to fund the "press".


Neehai, you're just being difficult. Joseph Goebbels never got any crap for subverting the press. ;)
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01-28-2005 19:03
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Kiamat Dusk
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01-28-2005 21:43
First, I think this is simply wrong. I don't condone this activity in the least and I think the administration needs to stop doing this piecemeal. Call it ALL off regardless of whether its been uncovered, apologize for doing it, and move on. It's embarrassing.

*waits for the Lefties to pick themselves off the floor after that lil revelation....

On the other hand, at least I *agree* with the policies being promoted. My tax dollars have been going to fund all kinds of things I don't support. Things like the National Endowment for the Arts. As a Christian, I'm glad to know that part of my hard earned money is going to support some guy who puts a crucifix in piss and calls it art. Or the one who covers a picture of Mary in pornography and elephant dung and calls it art. Or how about welfare? Yeah, it makes me really feel good to know that I'm working so that someone else can be paid to sit around, have babies, and drive and Escalade.

So, Lefties, yeah-you're right on this one. Sad thing is, being right hasn't kept you from being hypocrites.

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01-28-2005 22:11
From: Kiamat Dusk

So, Lefties, yeah-you're right on this one. Sad thing is, being right hasn't kept you from being hypocrites.

What about us "Have a mind of my own and think about issues rather than go strictly with party line" moderates?
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01-29-2005 05:46
I agree Kiamat. I remember when Bill Clinton made the largest reforms to welfare in decades. It forced a lot of people off of welfare but people still loved him for it.

I think that was back when he was creating a record surplus that has long since been pissed away with record spending by the fiscal conservatives.

You have every right not to like some government programs. You can even vote your opinion on these issues. I don't find it shocking that you disapprove of this administration paying off reporters to promote their agenda.

Agree with the policy all you want, but this type of action is heinous. It is a history of lies and deceit. I mean, we are fighting a war based on lies and misinformation.
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01-29-2005 06:16
Not to mention.. spending our tax money on two separate parties for Rice alone. That's what made me puke, let alone all this other spending unnecessarily.
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01-29-2005 06:25
Neehai... didnt you post something a while ago, about how gay people made more money than straight folk?
Vote with your dollars. Get a gay or gay-friendly journalist on YOUR payroll, and refuse to support newspapers who have a government-issued agenda.
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01-29-2005 06:50
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Neehai... didnt you post something a while ago, about how gay people made more money than straight folk?

While it seems that gay people make more money than heterosexuals, it's not really true. I was making a joke.

The reason it seems that gay people are more educated and make more money than their heterosexual counterparts is because it is the gay people who have money and status that are willing to openly admit that they are gay.

For every successful homosexual who is not afraid to talk about their sexuality, there is a mechanic in a small town who will not disclose. Gay people are generally good about spending their gay dollars wisely. We even get heterosexuals to support out companies. Did you ever hear of E-Trade? Started by lesbians. Did you ever hear of Quark? Created by a homosexual. We do try to keep our finances "in the family" as much as possible and it is one of the reasons why we have some of the success we do.

Ultimately though, we shouldn't have to buy the press. And absolutely we shouldn't have this administration buying the press with my money.
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01-29-2005 09:02
From: Neehai Zapata
I agree Kiamat. I remember when Bill Clinton made the largest reforms to welfare in decades. It forced a lot of people off of welfare but people still loved him for it.

I think that was back when he was creating a record surplus that has long since been pissed away with record spending by the fiscal conservatives.

You have every right not to like some government programs. You can even vote your opinion on these issues. I don't find it shocking that you disapprove of this administration paying off reporters to promote their agenda.

Agree with the policy all you want, but this type of action is heinous. It is a history of lies and deceit. I mean, we are fighting a war based on lies and misinformation.



Neehai,

You're right about Clinton's welfare reform. But, actually, it did piss off a lot of people-including Michael Moore. However, that surplus you mentioned was paid for by strip mining the military (wonder where those 2 divisions everyone says we need went?), slashing the intelligence budget (how is it possible that we didn't see 9/11 coming?), and the highest taxes in US history-something to which he himself admitted.

Now, I agree with the war. And I agree that we need to fund the war no matter how much it costs because it will pay dividends in the end just like our spending in the Cold War, however, I do believe that there are ways we can help control the deficit. For example, cutting funding to the NEA, stricter welfare reform, stop throwing money at junk science, and hey, I didn't hear Liberals complaining about all the money we're spending in Indonesia and the other areas hit by the Tsunamis. What's the deal with that? Do you have any idea how much that is costing us? Why don't I hear calls for an exit strategy from Indonesia? How about slogans like "No Humanitarian Aid In My Name" or "Feed American Children First"?

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01-29-2005 09:07
From: Kiamat Dusk
I agree that we need to fund the war no matter how much it costs because it will pay dividends in the end just like our spending in the Cold War


Uh, right... just like our pouring millions into the Taliban paid off... just like putting Hussein on the CIA payroll, helping him stage his coupe, and supplying him with chemical weapons to use against Iran paid off... just like giving Bin Laden CIA training paid off...
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01-29-2005 09:09
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Uh, right... just like our pouring millions into the Taliban paid off... just like putting Hussein on the CIA payroll, helping him stage his coupe, and supplying him with chemical weapons to use against Iran paid off... just like giving Bin Laden CIA training paid off...




Those were all done during Democratic, no-war-at-all-costs, Presidencies.
...or at least that is what I choose to believe.

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01-29-2005 09:23
From: Kiamat Dusk
Those were all done during Democratic, no-war-at-all-costs, Presidencies.
...or at least that is what I choose to believe.

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Why do you choose to make this a partisan issue? Personally, I fight against Government action (Republican OR Democrat) whenever it is morally wrong and against the will of the people. For example --did u know 60% of the United States population is against this immoral war in Iraq?

It never fails to amuse me when right wingers trot out Clinton as if he represented the left. Most liberals were disgusted with Clinton's foreign policy -tho' in retrospect Clinton's foreign policies wren't nearly as fucked up as Bush's. I'm still pissed off at Clinton over DOMA and NAFTA.
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Why do you choose to make this a partisan issue? Personally, I fight against Government action (Republican OR Democrat) whenever it is morally wrong and against the will of the people.


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01-29-2005 10:31
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For example, cutting funding to the NEA, stricter welfare reform, stop throwing money at junk science, and hey, I didn't hear Liberals complaining about all the money we're spending in Indonesia and the other areas hit by the Tsunamis.

No offense, but the NEA isn't taking that much money. Nor is welfare. Honestly, pick up a copy of the budget.

Clinton hardly slashed our military. And everything he is, he did with the approval of a Republican congress. It's not surprising that you point fingers later, but the big attack happened on Bushie's watch. As a matter of fact, you should take a look at what was slashed at the request of Dick Cheney. CLinton brought back the use of preemptive force against terrorists. He also successfully hunted down and prosecuted terrorists. How many terrorists have been successfully prosecuted by this administration? Let me give you a hint. Zero. :)

Republicans need to stop blaming past administrations and step up to the plate. To quote last years superbowl scandal, "What have you done for me lately?"

Now Bush is implementing "fees" to offset the deficit. They aren't called taxes, they are called fees. Read my lips, Bullshit.

Our economy is shit and this administration decides to give the contract to build executive helicopters to foreign bidders. Would someone please shoot me in the ass so I can wake up. Yea, sending manufacturing jobs overseas will surely jump the economy. What a laugh.

Meanwhile, we learn that good ole Cheney was dead in the middle of Oil-for-Food while he was CEO of Haliburton. (oopsie) On top of that he did business with Iran when he wasn't supposed to. What to do about that?

Don't give me crap about Clinton and the NEA. The NEA is a piddly pile of dog shit compared to the stinkers by this administration. The NEA is a tool they use to incite and control you. It distracts you from the real issues at hand and you like it that way.
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