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Neg Rated by Grievers Alts

Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
02-11-2005 13:36
Here is some background.

When I first started SL in August, I rented a condo on a lagoon in Akea. They assured me that privacy foremost when I signed in. The owner, has several alts, both female and male.
During the evenings when I was alone, he would bring his alts into the next room and engage in sex. Now, I ask, WTF is a man with alts doing in a PG sim, having sex next door to a girl? At one time I asked him, if these were his alts, he flatly denied it.

A few weeks go by, and a few more incidents went by, so I took the issue to his in game wife/manager. She apologized profusely for his actions and asked me to stay, and assurred it would not happen again.

Two weeks later I came home to find the building partially deleted. His manager had booted him from the land and and she welcomed me to help rebuild and stay, among the many others that were put out. While I was putting a roof on my home, he returned and began to delete the rest of the building. Jill Linden was called, but we got the normal response when it comes to contracts between subscribers. The manager also asked me to help rebuild the rest of the place as well, so, for two days I did so. On the third day, they reconciled and I was out. No loss, in fact, I was glad to be gone from that creep.

Today, nearly six months later, I logon to find I have been negged by his alts.
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Lordfly Digeridoo
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Join date: 21 Jul 2003
Posts: 3,628
02-11-2005 13:40
From: Weedy Herbst

Today, nearly six months later, I logon to find I have been negged by his alts.


Look on the bright side; in 6 months it won't matter :)
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Jonquille Noir
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Join date: 17 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,025
02-11-2005 13:43
And the other bright side, he's out $25 smackers for each of those negs.
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Weedy Herbst
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Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
02-11-2005 13:52
Is it an abuse to neg storm with alts according to the TOS?
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Adohan Zephyr
Bang bang
Join date: 20 Sep 2004
Posts: 216
02-11-2005 14:10
And you care about his negs, Why?
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
02-11-2005 14:18
From: Adohan Zephyr
And you care about his negs, Why?


Neg rating after months of no contact is not a decent thing for someone to do, no less by alts. Thats cowardly and seethingly vindictive, which has me fearing my safety.
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Ana Beckett
Registered User
Join date: 17 Jul 2004
Posts: 43
Report it to the Lindens Weedy.
02-11-2005 14:27
Mutliple Neg ratings from alts is not allowed Weedy. I saw this subject on another thread some time ago.

The Lindens will remove the alt's neg ratings and advise the primary account holder to cease the practice, if you let them know about it.

It's a shame, I agree. *hugs*
Adohan Zephyr
Bang bang
Join date: 20 Sep 2004
Posts: 216
02-11-2005 14:32
From: Weedy Herbst
, which has me fearing my safety.


Are you serious?

Fearing for your safety?
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Weedy Herbst
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Join date: 5 Aug 2004
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02-11-2005 14:39
From: Adohan Zephyr
Are you serious?

Fearing for your safety?


Yes, seriously, this guy is a creep.
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Lash Xevious
Gooberly
Join date: 8 May 2004
Posts: 1,348
02-11-2005 14:45
I was negged by alts too! My alts and an Ingrid actually. Negs are SL street-cred. Deem yourself badass'd mofo'd. :D
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
02-11-2005 14:51
From: Lash Xevious
Deem yourself badass'd mofo'd. :D


Hehe...btw, love your sculptures :)
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Dave Herbst
Registered User
Join date: 4 Sep 2004
Posts: 343
02-11-2005 18:34
I do not post here generally, but I will this time because of my observations. Weedy, is my longtime real-life partner and her account is in my name using my CC. We played Everquest together fo 4 years and looked forward to finding a new platform to join. We both are very creative and computer savvy, so we looked for something to do. The rating SL got at mmorpg.com looked very good to us, so we both joined. Weedy was everywhere immediately making friends and learning the grassroots of the game. Early on, she happened upon a place listed under "Popular Places" in Akea. There was a few couples hanging around the hot tub, and naturally they found Weedy to be exciting and interesting. Weedy wanted to live there, but there was a waiting list. Weedy attended the events with regularity and a couple of days later, they told her she could have an apartment (while overlooking other applicants). The commentary about the lagoon has a phrase "Privacy Assured". I was suspect, but Weedy was trusting. I dont play SL as much as she does, but I sit next to her everyday, because I also play EveOnline and Everquest.
One of the AVs who was a regular there, bothered her quite alot with innuendo and the like. Being good natured, she overlooked it. This AV and his wife of the same surname would go into rooms and engage in virtual sex. The green letters would flood her condo.
At first, we though nothing of it, other than to repsect another couple's right to privacy.

Over the next period of time, I began to deduce that these AVs were not a unique couple, but alts of the owner. I mentioned this to Weedy one night, so she confronted him. He denied having any control or ownership of the AVs.

Weedy got her landless plot in Luo, built a gallery there and decided to continue living in Akea. Proud of her build, at a party one evening, she decided to show the owner of the lagoon and show him what she had learned. Throughout the tour, he did nothing but make lewd comments towards Weedy, but still she defended him although I know she was greatly embarrassed.

One day, she teleported home to find the condo partially deleted. All of her items were not returned, but deleted, which included some very expensive furnishings. The manager had booted him and banned him from the property. Weedy then asked her, if it was ok to rebuild. She agreed. As she was laying out a floor, he returned, and from outside the property lines proceeded to delete the remainder of the building, putting out at least a dozen people, who had rent (expensive) paid up. The manager claimed he was a deadbeat and a cad and that she was "dying of cancer" and could not build herself. Weedy, being who she is, happily began to rebuild for her, even going as far as to raise an event to celebrate the new changes.

The following day Weedy logged on to find her work returned. The two had reconciled an deleted her stuff AGAIN.

This guy is a fucking creep and first class asshole, nearly 5 months after this incident, Weedy has had no contact with them, the stupid fucks negged her with alts. Have they been seething this whole time? Is dragging Weedy's good reputation through the mud a way to make them feel better. I doubt it. His alts BTW say "BTW Im nobody's alt" This guy is a asshole and I would not hesitate for one second to bust his face for what he has done.

I recommended strongly that Weedy leave this game, but it is her choice to make. She enjoys creating and building. Her radios are a huge success and she thrives on interacting with people about them, but today she is devastated because someone could be so cruel.
Howard Eisenberg
Registered User
Join date: 30 Aug 2004
Posts: 1
02-11-2005 19:48
From: Dave Herbst
This guy is a fucking creep and first class asshole, nearly 5 months after this incident, Weedy has had no contact with them, the stupid fucks negged her with alts. Have they been seething this whole time?


I agree Dave, I rated this assmunch and his manager for what they did at the time. Given the present situation, soon the 6 month rating decay will happen. I will re-neg them
Dave Moreau
Registered User
Join date: 22 Dec 2004
Posts: 29
02-11-2005 23:21
internet. serious business.

as for fearing for your safety, get real. It's a game and unless this person is a linden or unless you are casual about sharing RL information in game (which is dumb) then you have nothing to worry about except minor annoyance of e-harassment. Call him a jerk, laugh at him, and move on.
Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
02-13-2005 08:53
This guy continues to stalk me with his alts, yet I have heard nothing from the Lindens. The rules prevent me from posting logs, even though I have submitted them with abuse reports.

Inaction means he has a license to stalk and I am less than impressed Philip.
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Weedy Herbst
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Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
02-13-2005 09:26
Rather than name names, or post logs, just check my banned list in Luo, Tharu or Dacia.
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
02-13-2005 16:32
Send me his name in a PM. I will be happy to post it for all to see.
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Heather Nyak
Second Life Resident
Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 184
02-14-2005 02:24
I don't wanna go against TOS so please DO DOnt pm me his name :)
Malachi Petunia
Gentle Miscreant
Join date: 21 Sep 2003
Posts: 3,414
02-14-2005 04:28
Wow, you're lucky; my friends neg-rate me all the time.
Raina Robertson
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Join date: 1 Nov 2004
Posts: 18
02-15-2005 08:41
I normally dont post in the fornums, and basically stay in the "peanut gallery", but I happened on this post acouple of days ago. And this thread as reading more into it and going in game to check Weedy Herbst's parcels out for the grievers name, it became more apparent that things can be written about other people with no proof at all that there is any truth to the subject.

Stalking is serious business, I had it happen to me in RL. There is a comment by Weedy or Dave Herbst that Weedy signs in after 6 months to find she is neg rated by this guy. How is this stalking?? Stalking is making someone's life a living hell everyday. Logging into SL after 6 months and find I was neg rated by another avatar is hardly "stalking". I went to your parcels, Weedy, and there was many names on your ban list. And they all are established players. Either this guy has a home network set up with many computers and would have to be on SL 24/7 playing many avatars all at the same time or you have alot of enemies. I can not see this guy having that many alts with the solid fountation that these players have. I noticed your parcel you sell alot of stuff and have many vendors. Maybe, this is a way of drawing attention to your items for sale? It certainly appears this way to a person who reads your post to go look at her ban list, and go there to find many people banned who in fact have been playing longer than yourself. And making a statement that they are his alts, without proof, is slandering the people on your ban list. Not a good practice to do. That is sad, and maybe that is why the Lindens are not responding to you. It is also scarey that people can post a one sided story without any responce from the other parties, who in fact, may not be aware of your post.

I just found this post so fill of holes and discrepancies, to be so consumed over a neg rating but basically doing the same thing yourself but in a different form.

Enjoy the game, neg ratings show you arent an angel (no one is) and spend the time finding another way to advertise your vendors.
Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
02-15-2005 08:54
People can be too dramatic but I don't think fearing for one's safety is TOTALLY off the wall. On reflection, if a really determined stalker collected all the information I have allowed to slip here and there, I could see it being possible for them to connect the dots enough to find me.

Thankfully I have only known one individual in SL unbalanced enough to spook me in a RL kinda way, and that whole issue seems to have died down. It was, however, enough of a jolt for me to understand where Weedy is coming from.
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Bruno Buckenburger
Registered User
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 464
02-15-2005 08:58
From: Weedy Herbst
Neg rating after months of no contact is not a decent thing for someone to do, no less by alts. Thats cowardly and seethingly vindictive, which has me fearing my safety.


LMAO!!!!!

I'm sorry. I do agree that it is not a decent thing to do but a neg rating would have you fearing for your safety!?! Or is it the six montn delay?

If it's the delay, don't fear. The guy is just really really slow. Wouldn't make a good stalker.
Bruno Buckenburger
Registered User
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 464
02-15-2005 09:02
From: Devlin Gallant
Send me his name in a PM. I will be happy to post it for all to see.


I second that. I'd be happy to introduce myself (or would it be my alts?) to this scumbag.
Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
02-15-2005 22:48
It has not stopped. In fact it has now escalated into him cajoling others to neg me.

Abuse reports have been filed against these people, and a formal letter of complaint has gone to the Linden's, but I have yet to hear anything other than the usual bot created form letters.

Accordingly, rules prevent me from posting the names, but they are listed on my ban list at the land.
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Weedy Herbst
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Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
02-15-2005 23:17
From: Raina Robertson
Stalking is serious business, I had it happen to me in RL. There is a comment by Weedy or Dave Herbst that Weedy signs in after 6 months to find she is neg rated by this guy. How is this stalking?? Stalking is making someone's life a living hell everyday. Logging into SL after 6 months and find I was neg rated by another avatar is hardly "stalking". I went to your parcels, Weedy, and there was many names on your ban list. And they all are established players.


All names on the list are involved. Either as alts, or cajoled. Negging after all this time surely indicates seething. Over what? My guess is he wants to continue defaming me in light of the six month rating wipe. Please believe me when I tell you, this man is attacking me systematically. I have proof, but am bound from posting the logs.

From: Raina Robertson
Maybe, this is a way of drawing attention to your items for sale? It certainly appears this way to a person who reads your post to go look at her ban list, and go there to find many people banned who in fact have been playing longer than yourself.


This has nothing to do with my objects and I cannot post names here.

From: Raina Robertson
And making a statement that they are his alts, without proof, is slandering the people on your ban list. Not a good practice to do. That is sad, and maybe that is why the Lindens are not responding to you. It is also scarey that people can post a one sided story without any responce from the other parties, who in fact, may not be aware of your post.


These being alts is no secret, in fact I have plenty of proof. Yet again, I cannot post the names or logs of proof

From: Raina Robertson
I just found this post so fill of holes and discrepancies, to be so consumed over a neg rating but basically doing the same thing yourself but in a different form.

Enjoy the game, neg ratings show you arent an angel (no one is) and spend the time finding another way to advertise your vendors.


This is not a disagreement, or result of any recent action. It is an continued attack by a vindictive person.
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