Brief tutorial on how to make money in SecondLife

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*sets up a lawn chair and awaits the fireworks*

This works! I sold PG land at $20/m today! W--t!

swing battah battah swing !

blaze, sounds like you've found a winning formula. how about posting some images of examples?

How many people leave the plants and such on there land once its sold to them?

Jack, are you REALLY land baroning nowadays?

And someone bought PG land at $20/m2 today!
https://secondlife.com/auctions/auction-detail.php?id=0026194763
W--t! Right outside my front door! It wasn't me! W--t! W--t!

Heres my tutorial:

Find something you really enjoy doing.

Do it.

Work hard and do it to the best of your ability.

If you make something you enjoy, share put a reasonable price on it - something you think is reasonable and that the people you wish to have this can afford.

Find something else you really enjoy doing...

Repeat.

Eventually you may make some money - but in the meantime you'll do a lot of things you enjoy, make friends, and ultimately have a lot more fun than jumping on the plethora of get rich quick schemes.

Siggy.

Have you noticed yet blaze that 99% of the people that "snipe" you are in the top 5% of most successfull in SL? that should tell you something,take notes and dont make enemys.

nope, success is most often found without looking. If you help people with your time and lend a helping hand it comes back to you. I cant count how many projects i have done where i didnt want to make a penny off of it and people INSIST on donating to the cause. But if you go around expecting donations its not likely to happen. Put your heart into your work not your bussiness sense and you will succed and often far greater rewards then monetary value will be aquired in the process.

blaze,

two words:

Land.
Barrony.


now go away and let people BUY the cheap land and USE it at the cheap price

Rather amusing, first suggesting that I am insecure and 'hijacking your idea' and then saying I am typing out insult.. please go back and quote for me directly where my insult was... oh, it doesn't exist.. now lets quote where I say your idea is a get rich quick scheme.. hmm doesn't say that either..

I was following the thread and suggested one of the many alternatives that will also make you money..

... hmm but you chose to read into it, suggesting that I was directly attacking you motives... that would be a symptom of?

Like I say, very very very interesting

(for the sarcasm impared - the answer is being insecure)



Hmm I must see where the camera in this place is that lets you see me wringing my hands as I come up with new and wonderful ways to (not) insult people...



More words of wisdom from the non-insulter... and another bit of mis-information, again, please go find the quote where I'm telling you how you should be doing things..

You're not going to find one... you'll see where I give my views on various ideas, but not one where I say you should be doing something...

So far Blaze, in this post you've managed to do everything you accuse others of, and totally unprovoked!

Well done!

Now please, define snipe - you're using that word for everything that doesn't directly agree with your perspective..

Siggy.

blaze, wake up.

your advice of how to make money is nothing more than a glorified Ponzi (pyramid) scheme. Land prices can not keep rising indefinitely. At some point they will level out or drop and someone will be a loser. You endorsing this is a dispicable act.

As for your complaining about how this "5 minute post" has gotten into a "silly little drama", maybe you should consider what the reaction to your post might be before you post it, rather than blindly expecting people to agree with your money making schemes.

"blaze", this is a much better way to troll than "alby", or "shepp". it's amusing and non-hateful. i'm amused.

Heres another way I think will work... put this into a notecard, now send 5 lindens to the everyone on the list . Now, heres the cunning part, put your name on the top, take off the name on the bottom, and send it off to 5 friends.

Siggy Romulus
Jauni Wu
Hiro Pendragon
Darko Cellardoor
Lynn Lippman


I swear to god, you can't go wrong!

Time for Hiro's patented line-by-line ownage.(tm)


Because no one thought of "buy low sell high" before??? This notion is absurd. And you have yet to address my statements that your "business" is nothing more than a pyramid scheme, which, by federal law, is illegal.


Maybe if you addressed the concerns we raised, then we could put this to bed. Otherwise, yes, it must be exhausting!



Hyperbole much?


I didn't post on the Ozzy thread, fyi, but we're allowed to chat about whatever we want. We've also been lobbying to get the Off Topic forum back.

And you have awful balls accusing Siggy, of all people, of reducing SL to chatter. SL is an awesome scriptor and has dozens of cool creations. What have you CREATED in SL?


And other people who see land speculation as the only good way to make money. It's risky, exploitive, and has a destabilization factor to the SL economy. The overwhelming majority of players are against this. (If you read Cory Linden's latest piece, he concurs that this is true about a great number of players.)


Like your personal attacks? Is that respectful and polite?


"It" being variety, yes, you're correct. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with the rest of your post.


Pyramid schemes are pyramid schemes. And if there's something I've learned about the old school, it's that they respect creation, not barrony.


I agree.


So if I found a way to exploit you, would it be okay for me to just take your money? Of course not. Your argument lacks substance.


You have the BALLS to accuse us of forcing you to land barrony, when the VERY THING we have been arguing against has been land barrony? You really do need to wake up, bro.


Another personal attack, nice.

You show real class, blaze.

Low.

I got some insomnia set in after work, so I'm gonna steer this back on track before I hit poser for a couple of hours.

The thread is about how to make money in SL..

You can buy and sell land and make some money pretty quick - depending on the market.. as we can see it fluctuates, and is a finite resource.. I can say honestly looking at history by going this route you're going to be doing a lot of running around, auction bidding, paying tier costs, juggling parcels. And at the end a good day you'll get some dollars.
You'll also probably get a lot of animosity. this is at best.
At worst land prices will dump and you'll end up losing money hand over fist and have a near $200 USD bill for land usage to contend with, along with auction costs as you continue to lose money.

That is one way.. there are others.

Now admittedly a lot of people cash out regularly, but if you look at the leaderboards the first non-corporate player you see is Fey.. Fey is a 'lindenairre'.

Fey makes clothes. She does it in her own time, as she enjoys it... Fey puts a killer dress out and it's there for as long as she wishes it. She adds content, she gets money and uploads more dresses of her creation.
Fey has a lot of the only REAL currency you have in SL -- reputation and respect...
If anyone has anything bad to say about Fey, I've yet to hear it. She is probably one of the most loved people in Second Life.

There are others I know who cash out regularly, one whos name I won't mention would give most the land barons kidney stones if they found out their SL income. They deal in content too.

Land Barony looks very nice at first glance, but it certainly isn't the bees knees of money making in SL - I think content is king.

Siggy.

blaze,

You have a view of what SL should be, and that's fine: we all do. Nobody amongst us has all the answers because this is a new and evolving society. As we've watched the world grow over the last couple of years (or however long we've been around), most of us have become very attached to it and become fiercely protective of the creative and artistic freedoms that we've discovered here.

It struck me recently that there's a central tension in the way that SL has been marketed to the public. On the one hand, the ability to create has always been heavily stressed, and I know that Philip has been rightly proud of the artistic talent that he's attracted to SL, sometimes from all manner of unlikely sources. On the other hand, there's also been a lot of recent publicity about the ability to earn money from the game. This has been an age old tension - between art and commerce - in the Real World, so it's hardly surprising that this is beginning to cause impassioned debate within SL also.

It was very interesting watching the videos of Philip's and Cory's interviews, and I was struck by how Philip talks mostly about self-expression and seems more interested in things like online relationships and the human possiblities of a virtual world. Cory, on the other hand, talks much more about the economic side of things and seems most animated when discussing SL as a platform for commercial opportunities. So I wonder, perhaps, if this divergence is not also encapsulated within LL itself.

Why does this matter? Why can't we, as you suggest, just respect each others' interests and allow everyone to play the game in the way that they choose? I suspect the answer is that, ultimately, the two philosophies are mutually exclusive. If you want us to live in a world where making money is the main priority, that will automatically impinge on my creative freedom of choice.

Commercialism can certainly be a powerful force for creative expression, and limitations of all sorts can produce great art; you only have to look at the relationship between art and patronage in the RW to understand that. But for the first time, we might be able to live in a world with potentially limitless creative possibilities, and it's an intoxicating dream.

Many people arrived in SL and saw a better world than the one in which they lived: one in which they could create, free of commercial restrictions. Maybe that world disappeared when beta ended, maybe in truth it never really existed in such an idealised form at all; but I think you can be sure that many will defend their vision of what SL means to them, and could mean to all of us.

When you or anyone posts about land baroning, it really goes to the core of this vision, so you mustn't be surprised when people post their contrary views on the subject.

For me, I am pretty post modern and I just see business as another type of art form.

And I have no problem with contrary views. In fact, I pretty much ignore all views unless they are contrary because that's the only time they are interesting.

Reading stuff by people agreeing with me is boring as all heck.

What I do have a problem is with the rampant attacking that attributes weak morals and shady character to simple proposals of ideas and hard work.

This was demoralizing at first, but now all it appears to be is some expression of bizarre self-rage that comes up over and over again on these forums. The language, the negativity .. I have no other way of characterizing it.

Well certainly it can't be anything that you're *doing* that makes others rage... obviously people who are upset are just cyclicly miserable people who rage at everyone for no reason. ... ?

Daemioth in all due respect this has more to do with Blaze's condescending attitude and fucktard ways than his unproven scheme to make money.

Blaze i have read all of your replies and tried to stay quiet but dude you are such a fucking tool. Like so many others before you that float in and out of the forums, you have no interest in the communal good of Second Life. Your actions suggest u don’t give a fuck about anyone but yourself. Your replies are so arrogant and judgmental. I wish u would go away.

I really don’t think anyone is interested in your amateur get rich quick scheme. Peddle your wears elsewhere douche bag.



You are a self admitted troll. Nice.

Edited in attempt to make the post more forgiving.

Dammit Siggy! You know I like it on TOP!

*squirms* Move over Darko, pardon me, coming up... Ooops, sorry, I really didn't mean to bump *that*, but oh what a nice one it is... EEep, I can see Hiro's bum! Whooooo.

I take that back, Siggy. I *do* like being an, um, bottom feeder.

Ahhhhh Siggy - you left me off the the list-of-lists!


Bummer!

blaze,

<<Beware of people who are against this idea.>>

Do you mind if I borrow that for my own postings?