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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
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03-14-2005 23:55
At 1131 pm PST, these appeared over my land in Luo.
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
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03-15-2005 00:23
Phew! for a moment there I thought the drama was going to fall completely flat! Thankfully I can look forward to far more lynching, name calling, accusations and new threads by blaze!
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,905
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03-15-2005 00:26
Phew! for a moment there I thought the drama was going to fall completely flat! Thankfully I can look forward to far more lynching, name calling, accusations and new threads by blaze! Kris, the melodrama was practically absent until you added to my original thread. Not that you ever admit to your hypocrisy. _____________________
Hiro Pendragon
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
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03-15-2005 00:39
Kris, the melodrama was practically absent until you added to my original thread. Not that you ever admit to your hypocrisy. You unmuted me? Could you do us both a favor and please re-mute me? I have no wish to discuss anything with you ever. Not that you even would, because anything I ever say is conveniently dismissed as trolling by the likes of you anyway. And as to my causing the drama? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,905
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03-15-2005 01:20
You unmuted me? About 1 day after muting you. Could you do us both a favor and please re-mute me? I have no wish to discuss anything with you ever. Funny, because your involvement in this thread certainly seems to indicate the opposite. You posted here and accused anyone questioning a clandestine, temp-on-rez, self-propogating satellite network as people creating drama and out as a lynch mob. That seems to me to be a direct invitation for the said people to respond to you in discussion. Hypocrite again. Not that you even would, because anything I ever say is conveniently dismissed as trolling by the likes of you anyway. I've said this before, but I'll say it again: I will raise an explanation why you are wrong, for instance, how I just showed you contradicting yourself twice so far in this thread. Then I may call you a troll, if it's clear that your intentions are to hijack the thread and evoke a response. Which is precisely the definition of an Internet forum troll. That's 3/3 you've been proven wrong. And as to my causing the drama? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Rather than merely dismissing everyone you disagree with as drama queens, why don't you try putting aside your own prejudices toward certain folks in the forum, and realize that there's a legitimate concern being addressed? Want more proof? Fact: Reputable old players have agreed that this is a significant concern. Fact: Several Lindens have stated that there are many aspects of this that should be discussed (land owner rights, returning objects over your land, sim resources, to specifically name three) Fact: The overwhelming majority of posters have been mature over several threads and 30+ pages. Fact: The only person who's been sarcastic has been you. Other dissenters have been fairly polite. Fact: The only person who's used oversized, colored font is you. I try and respond to you seriously, Kris, giving you the benefit of the doubt that your incorrect assumptions are based on previous bias rather than sheer malicious trolling or outright lack of reasoning ability. Perhaps that's a foolish thing for me to do. You never seem to learn. _____________________
Hiro Pendragon
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
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03-15-2005 01:35
how come kris doesn't bump my threads anymore
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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,905
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03-15-2005 01:37
how come kris doesn't bump my threads anymore ![]() Don't press your luck, blaze. ![]() _____________________
Hiro Pendragon
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Zuzi Martinez
goth dachshund
Join date: 4 Sep 2004
Posts: 1,860
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03-15-2005 01:54
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Zuzi Martinez: if Jeska was Canadian would she be from Jeskatchewan? that question keeps me up at nite.
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
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03-15-2005 02:20
About 1 day after muting you. blah blah blah spew hack blah bullshit etc HIRO, PUT ME ON IGNORE. NOW. PLEASE. AND RESIST THE URGE TO TAKE IT BACK OFF. EVER. Or I shall keep responding in that font until you stop responding to me. ![]() |
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,905
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03-15-2005 02:23
Real mature, Kris. I suppose this proves I'm the drama queen?
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Hiro Pendragon
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
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03-15-2005 02:28
Real mature, Kris. I suppose this proves I'm the drama queen? It's not drama. It's contempt. Now please for the fucking love of all that is fucking holy stop fucking responding to me. |
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Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
Join date: 22 May 2004
Posts: 9,935
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03-15-2005 02:34
*must respect Ya... I mean Kris*
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,905
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03-15-2005 02:44
It's not drama. It's contempt. Now please for the fucking love of all that is fucking holy stop fucking responding to me. You don't get it, do you? You responded to me first. I posted the thread. You called me and other people drama queens. I responded to that comment in a civil manner. If you don't want to hear my responses, mute me. But this is a public forum and I will respond to public comments. _____________________
Hiro Pendragon
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
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03-15-2005 02:45
Heh heh.
Give it up Hiro. There is no arguing with those who do not wish to listen. _____________________
Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,905
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03-15-2005 02:46
Heh heh. Give it up Hiro. There is no arguing with those who do not wish to listen. LOL you're cracking me up lately, blaze. _____________________
Hiro Pendragon
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Huns Valen
Don't PM me here.
Join date: 3 May 2003
Posts: 2,749
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03-15-2005 02:55
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Malachi Petunia
Gentle Miscreant
Join date: 21 Sep 2003
Posts: 3,414
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03-15-2005 03:51
Yep, they are back. I can't really say which is worse, starting this system in the first place or stopping them and restarting them. I still think it quite possible that they are truly uncontrolled by their owner, and that one of these left unchecked was capable of reinfecting the grid.
Just an added data point, there are three active scripts running per joined set, two in one of the cubelettes and one in the other. I guess I'll fire up my countermeasures today. Damn, I really wish I didn't have to do this. |
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Talen Morgan
Amused
Join date: 2 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,097
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03-15-2005 04:22
Yep, they are back. I can't really say which is worse, starting this system in the first place or stopping them and restarting them. I still think it quite possible that they are truly uncontrolled by their owner, and that one of these left unchecked was capable of reinfecting the grid. Just an added data point, there are three active scripts running per joined set, two in one of the cubelettes and one in the other. I guess I'll fire up my countermeasures today. Damn, I really wish I didn't have to do this. Isn't it possible that the lindens asked the owner to turn them off for a period of time and then to turn them all back on for testing purposes? Robin Linden did say they were in the process of testing the objects and their impact on the grid. _____________________
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Malachi Petunia
Gentle Miscreant
Join date: 21 Sep 2003
Posts: 3,414
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03-15-2005 05:06
Isn't it possible that the lindens asked the owner to turn them off for a period of time and then to turn them all back on for testing purposes? Robin Linden did say they were in the process of testing the objects and their impact on the grid. Bring some evidence rather then guesses and you might be taken seriously. |
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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03-15-2005 05:13
I suspect Weedy Herbst is using the data these things collect to find public land. I think he owes us an explanation.
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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03-15-2005 05:17
I suspect Weedy Herbst is using the data these things collect to find public land. I think he owes us an explanation. Weedy is a she ![]() _____________________
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Hank Ramos
Lifetime Scripter
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,328
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03-15-2005 05:54
You do realize that Pete Fats and the Lindens are just laughing at you all, no? Pete Fats is reading the forums, and not responding to people's concerns about his ability to use server resources without owning land. The Lindens don't think it's a problem since their current rules don't prevent this type of behavior and probably just find it all amusing.
Basically I see a few courses of action... 1. Protest inworld and in the forums. Not everyone reads the forums. 2. Give it up and accept the fact that people can get around the rules and there is nothing you can do about it. 3. Pressure the Lindens through the appropriate channels (Feature Requests, Hotline, chatting with Linden developers, etc) about why it's a problem. 4. Flood the world with the same technology so Linden Lab is forced to fix the problem. (I don't see this as a problem really as only one person is allowed to skirt the autoreturn and self-replicating rules and as one person, it's low impact. If a dozen people do it world wide, the grid will strain and people will demand something be done). 5. Kick back with a martinni (3 olives, extra dry), play and explore the SL you love, and relize it's all just a Game. _____________________
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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03-15-2005 06:09
4. Flood the world with the same technology so Linden Lab is forced to fix the problem. (I don't see this as a problem really as only one person is allowed to skirt the autoreturn and self-replicating rules and as one person, it's low impact. If a dozen people do it world wide, the grid will strain and people will demand something be done). . I vote for 4. I think this would be a riot. _____________________
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Eggy Lippmann
Wiktator
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 7,939
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03-15-2005 06:14
Weedy is a she ![]() Everyone in SL is male until proven otherwise ![]() _____________________
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
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03-15-2005 06:17
Everyone in SL is male until proven otherwise ![]() Except for when they first log in. Or sometimes when they teleport. Then even the guys are girls (and all sisters, apparently) ![]() |