Welcome to the Second Life Forums Archive

These forums are CLOSED. Please visit the new forums HERE

Some kind of neg rating record?

Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
05-10-2005 09:31
From: Aimee Weber
:O My neg rates on you must have expired!! Hold still Flip... :D Turns out i have 1 neg rate in all three categories :confused: No idea who hit me with that.

But do rates (pos OR neg) DO anything anymore? I thought they were deprecated! I haven't paid attention to them since the Lindens made the rate changes. Are they still relevant?



Can guess,
considering a well known proponent of triple neg rates for attitude adjustment purposes reguarding forum coments recently locked horns with you.

Speculation of course.
ZsuZsanna Raven
~:+: Supah Kitteh :+:~
Join date: 19 Dec 2004
Posts: 2,361
05-10-2005 09:35
From: Essence Lumin
I saw someone in the welcome area who has given 190 neg ratings. Is that a record? It's the most I've seen. In her profile she describes herself as just an average everyday woman with a gun.



I know exactly who you mean, The only negs I have are from her. I gave em right back to her. She said she negged me because she hates subs. I said that was her problem and I had done nothing to deserve it and I hope it made her happy. She negs everyone she can, including new people. She is a sad immature person and I have always assumed she is a minor because of how she acts. There is a difference between being silly and having fun...and being immature and idiotic for no damn reason. It doesn't bother me so much that she negged me, but that it was done for no reason other than her being an idiot who is seeking attention in the wrong way. I feel bad for the newbies she has done this to though. A newbie asked me why that girl had negged her, what had she done wrong? I said to ignore it and not to take it to heart. It always amazes me how some people will go out of their way to be cruel...it's much easier to be considerate and respectful of others than it is to be an ass. What comes around goes around...karma is a bitch...
_____________________
~Mewz!~ :p
Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
05-10-2005 09:44
From: Colette Meiji
Can guess,
considering a well known proponent of triple neg rates for attitude adjustment purposes reguarding forum coments recently locked horns with you.

Speculation of course.


LOL Maybe but but it would have to have been a stealth job. I've actually never seen the aforementioned person in game.
_____________________
Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
Posts: 6,734
05-10-2005 09:46
From: Aimee Weber
LOL Maybe but but it would have to have been a stealth job. I've actually never seen the aforementioned person in game.

Most acts of terrorism and or cowardice are performed in stealth.
_____________________
YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net '

From: Khamon Fate
Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !
Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
05-10-2005 09:55
If I look at a profile of someone who gives out a lot of neg ratings .. I think much less of them than I would someone who has been given a handful of negative ratings.

So who's reputation are they really huring.

If you meet someone who has given out 100 negrates .. you should steer clear of them. One unintended misunderstanding and you get neg rated.

I honestly think responsible use of the neg ratings would require you to only use them if someone offended you in some way.

Someone with a grotesque bloody appearance in a non violent area that refuses to move on or cover up could earn a Apearance neg

Someone who spews expletives could receive a Beahvior neg

A Greifer who builds a giant flashing neon sign that is a total eyesore to all their neighbors could recive a building neg rate.

I dont see why every little misunderstanding or something you didnt particularily agree with would earn a negative.

Ive never neg rated, and I have met people in SL who have offended me. I wonder why people would make a concerted effort to be so critical of others.

If you dont like someoene put them on Mute and leave it at that.
Artemis Fate
I'm a big stupid-face.
Join date: 24 Oct 2003
Posts: 746
05-10-2005 10:09
The girl likes to fancy herself a crusader of justice by tagging all the people who go against her or she doesn't like with negs from herself and all of her alts. Maybe someone will look and go, wow that person has 12 negs, but i'd be a lot more frightened as said, of someone who has 190 negs given. That's just like, "Hiya Violet", "How dare you not call me by my full name!" *triple neg rate*

I usually disregard neg rates that were given in all 3 catergories though anyways, that means that the person was angry and not thinking straight. Granted if I see FIFTY of these tripple negs like on her, then yes i'm going to take notice :P But if it's like 3 neg rates in every catergory I think, "Pack of asshats negrated this person", if it's 12 negs in behavior and 2 in appearance and building, I think "wow she's an asshat".

She'd been known for this negrating zeal since 2003 though :)

But again, who's the real loser here, the person who recieves a negrate in each catergory that most people don't even care about at this point and that just *poof* disappears in 6 months. Or the person who spent 75L$ dishing out those ratings, lol mind you roughly 70 times in her negrating career totalling out too: 5250L$ worth of negs.
_____________________

Ko Industries, unique clothes for the unique woman:
Ko Industries: Nexus Prime Gibson (main) store

"Be still like a mountain, and flow like a great river" -Lao Tse

"Deus Ex Machina"

"Dom Ars Est Vita Est"

"Stand tall and Shake the heavens" -Xenogears
Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
05-10-2005 10:17
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Most acts of terrorism and or cowardice are performed in stealth.


:eek: DAMN!

But I just want to go on record saying I am not accusing anybody in particular of doing these neg ratings. I honestly hadn't noticed them until this thread and they really could have been done by ANYBODY.
_____________________
Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2,648
dont agree
05-10-2005 10:18
From: Buster Peel
I agree! The welcome area should be a "no rating zone". Even better, don't allow trial and basic accounts to give or receive rates at all. Or don't allow avs under 30 days (or some other limit) to give or receive rates.


Speaking as a newbie, it is almost impossible to get rated at all now as the system is definately "broken" due to the higher cost.

I have been here two months only and the only ratings I got were during the first few days.
Most of these were from mentors or other helpful people in the Welcome area.

Until more people in the "non-newbie" areas start giving ratings again, to cut off ratings in the welcome area would seriously impact on ratings in general IMO.

:)
_____________________
.
black
art furniture & classic clothing
===================
Black in Neufreistadt
Black @ ONE
Black @ www.SLBoutique.com


.
Buster Peel
Spat the dummy.
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 1,242
05-10-2005 19:41
From: Dianne Mechanique
Speaking as a newbie, it is almost impossible to get rated at all now as the system is definately "broken" due to the higher cost.

I have been here two months only and the only ratings I got were during the first few days.
Most of these were from mentors or other helpful people in the Welcome area.

Until more people in the "non-newbie" areas start giving ratings again, to cut off ratings in the welcome area would seriously impact on ratings in general IMO.

:)

I think the system base broken BEFORE the change. When ratings were free, everyone had hundreds, even thousands of ratings. There were people who had been rated by more than half the population of SL.

What did ratings actually mean then? How could 1,000 people know enough about you to actually RATE you? That's nonsense. Ratings were more a measure of how long you were in SL and how many rating parties you went to. That's COMPLETELY USELESS.

Now ratings actually MEAN something.

There is a problem with abuse of the ratings system, such as griefers who neg rate for fun, or people who use ratings for inappropriate retaliation (like neg-rating somebody's building skills because you don't like something they said).

Brand new players should not be rated before they have been in world long enough to actually do anything. (How long that should be, I donno. But three minutes is not enough.) How could you know that a new av won't turn out to be the worst griefer to ever materialize? On what basis can you rate somebody minutes after they first materialize? How can they rate you when they just arrived and have no idea what's "normal"?

Limiting the rating system to premium accounts would create another incentive to upgrade, and it would prevent people from setting up basic account alts and using them to neg-rate with impunity.

Buster
Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
05-10-2005 19:51
I think you can easily pos rate someone on behavior and appearance within a little while of meeting them.

The chance that they would turn out to be a horrible person and a griefer in disguise is pretty small.

coco
Artemis Fate
I'm a big stupid-face.
Join date: 24 Oct 2003
Posts: 746
05-10-2005 19:57
From: Buster Peel
I think the system base broken BEFORE the change. When ratings were free, everyone had hundreds, even thousands of ratings. There were people who had been rated by more than half the population of SL.

What did ratings actually mean then? How could 1,000 people know enough about you to actually RATE you? That's nonsense. Ratings were more a measure of how long you were in SL and how many rating parties you went to. That's COMPLETELY USELESS.

Now ratings actually MEAN something.

There is a problem with abuse of the ratings system, such as griefers who neg rate for fun, or people who use ratings for inappropriate retaliation (like neg-rating somebody's building skills because you don't like something they said).

Brand new players should not be rated before they have been in world long enough to actually do anything. (How long that should be, I donno. But three minutes is not enough.) How could you know that a new av won't turn out to be the worst griefer to ever materialize? On what basis can you rate somebody minutes after they first materialize? How can they rate you when they just arrived and have no idea what's "normal"?

Limiting the rating system to premium accounts would create another incentive to upgrade, and it would prevent people from setting up basic account alts and using them to neg-rate with impunity.

Buster


Actually the ratings are still totally meaningless. They always have been. For one they disappear after 6 months. For two look at the top ratings before and after, the same people who were on the top at 1L$ ratings are on the top as 25L$ ratings. I'm surpassed by 500 something people for building rating, even though I know a lot of those people almost never build, while I consider myself a builder.

So really it still comes down to that they're still the same as ever, people are just getting less of them, they disappear quicker and cost more.
_____________________

Ko Industries, unique clothes for the unique woman:
Ko Industries: Nexus Prime Gibson (main) store

"Be still like a mountain, and flow like a great river" -Lao Tse

"Deus Ex Machina"

"Dom Ars Est Vita Est"

"Stand tall and Shake the heavens" -Xenogears
1 2