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Ulrika Zugzwang
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03-28-2005 06:39
From: Billy Grace
Grow up Ulrika, name calling is so 3rd grade. Nobody cares what you think anyway sweetie. Go back to your lil liberal govt play toy is falling flat on it's face because nobody likes you.
This is exactly what I'm talking about with people like you. Even though there is a diverse group of individuals with a wide variety of personal political, social, and religious beliefs participating in the project, all you see is "liberal". I assume in your mind the label "liberal" is applied to everything which you either do not like, are not comfortable with, or cannot understand.

That and your personal attacks on members of the group is the reason why you are the only person who has ever been fired from our project.

~Ulrika~
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03-28-2005 06:44
Name one member who is knows to be a conservative and is still involved with your group.
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03-28-2005 06:50
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
In this case you are absolutely right.

I have great disdain for creepy middle-minded misogynistic evangelicals, who flip flop between extreme piety, pornographic language, and fits of rage and I don't mind showing it.

~Ulrika~


Pornographic language? Sex and syrup? Thats PG13 at best.
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03-28-2005 06:59
Oh... and this is your idea of a "free" society, "free" from censorship and "free" from corruption???

This is what I get for trying to help you. I become involved in your project to see if I can add some conservative viewpoints and see what happens when the rolls are reversed and as a conservative I am in the minority. I invest my time and energy trying to help you and what do I get in return? I called you out on your attempt to squelch ideas other than your own and what did you do? On your own without consulting with anyone else you did kick me out of the group. Nice going there Ulrika. Way to show exactly how your government treats people who disagree with you.

The amazing thing is that you seem to think this is a good thing. Your government’s idea of how to deal with opposing ideas is to kick anyone out who disagrees with you. No wonder every well-known conservative that has ever been involved with you has quit or been kicked out.

Your actions, your intolerance, your hatred and your corruption are why your project will NEVER work. You have proved beyond a shadow of doubt that a game wide player run government will NEVER happen and I thank you for that. Well done.

From: Ulrika Zugzwang
I support this idea of a state-sponsored church that supports inclusive denominations only. Individuals who would argue against these inclusive denominations become exclusive by nature of their argument, eliminating the city's need to make concessions to them. :D

~Ulrika~

This is how ideas that you disagree with are met. You kicked me out because I wouldn’t stand for being told by you and you alone that the city will make no concessions to anyone with a viewpoint other than your own. You decided this ON YOUR OWN. You did not bother to consult the group, you are the dictator who will squelch any idea that you don’t like. What you did to me is the proof.

I invite anyone interested to read that thread in its entirety. It is quite enlightening.

Here is the link again: Intollerance on display in Neualtinburg

I have named it more appropriately.
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03-28-2005 07:02
From: Kasandra Morgan
Pornographic language? Sex and syrup? Thats PG13 at best.

TY Kasandra. I happen to like sex and syrup... lol. :D

You forget that Ulrika seems to have no sense of humor. Her personal hatred of Christians and Christianity are what drives her to such depths of hatred. It is a sad thing to watch someone in such a downward spiral.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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03-28-2005 07:19
From: Billy Grace
OThis is what I get for trying to help you. I become involved in your project to see if I can add some conservative viewpoints and see what happens when the rolls are reversed and as a conservative I am in the minority. I invest my time and energy trying to help you and what do I get in return?
You were fired by me personally when I was the project manager (before the government took over) for badgering members in a thread, while we were discussing the city church (of course), and for libelous statements posted in Hamlet's blog.


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On your own without consulting with anyone else you did kick me out of the group. Nice going there Ulrika. Way to show exactly how your government treats people who disagree with you.
I take full responsibility for terminating you but I assure you it was not a solitary decision. :)

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Your actions, your intolerance, your hatred and your corruption are why your project will NEVER work. You have proved beyond a shadow of doubt that a game wide player run government will NEVER happen and I thank you for that. Well done.
There it is. This is exactly the kind of libel that got your reactive tush tossed into the trash can. What's astounding is that you were doing this kind of garbage while you were in the group and you actually think (still think) that you were doing us a service.

I actually went easy on you, because at the time, based on your behavior, I thought you were a young child. Imagine my surprise when I found out you were an adult.


~Ulrika~
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03-28-2005 07:27
TY for validating everything I just said.

Gwynith, Kathy and I were finding middle ground on lots of issues which you didn't like. You butted in to squelch what was happening. That is a fact. Read the thread people and you will see what happened for yourself.
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03-28-2005 07:36
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
You were fired by me personally


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I take full responsibility for terminating you but I assure you it was not a solitary decision. :)


Caught yourself in a lie there… oops. Which is it??? You personally… or not… can’t have it both ways… rofl. I spoke to several individuals who were in the group at a high level at the time… They didn’t even know about it. Try again.

You didn’t even have the guts to say anything to me either btw. Didn’t have the guts to tell me you were doing it. Didn’t have the guts to communicate with me in any way. Wouldn’t answer my questions etc… This is Neualtinburg’s illustrious leader folks.
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03-28-2005 07:47
From: Billy Grace
Caught yourself in a lie there… oops. Which is it??? You personally… or not… can’t have it both ways… rofl. I spoke to several individuals who were in the group at a high level at the time… They didn’t even know about it. Try again.

You didn’t even have the guts to say anything to me either btw. Didn’t have the guts to tell me you were doing it. Didn’t have the guts to communicate with me in any way. Wouldn’t answer my questions etc… This is Neualtinburg’s illustrious leader folks.



Please keep the facts straight as Ulrika is not the leader there is a government in place and the RA along with the SA and Guild make all decisions.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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03-28-2005 07:51
From: Billy Grace
Caught yourself in a lie there… oops. Which is it??? You personally… or not… can’t have it both ways…
I personally fired you but it wasn't a decision made in a vacuum. What to do with Billy was a story unto itself that played out in email between several groups in the background. Ultimately, it was my last act as the project manager before transitioning rule to the provisional government.

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You didn’t even have the guts to say anything to me either btw. Didn’t have the guts to tell me you were doing it. Didn’t have the guts to communicate with me in any way. Wouldn’t answer my questions etc… This is Neualtinburg’s illustrious leader folks.
Billy, you're fired for badgering group members and making libelous statements outside our group forum. Sorry that took so long.

Also, just to bring you up to speed, I am no longer the leader of the project. I don't even hold a position within the elected government. I'm a contributor who supports infrastructure and planning mainly from the forums. The project is now led by a group of elected representatives. Check out the forum. Err. Never mind. :D

~Ulrika~
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03-28-2005 08:01
From: Madiera Westerburg
over the last day and several private messages later...ive fallen in love with billy grace....i just want the world to share with me in my incredible joy...and oh yeah i almost forgot....
BILLY WILL YOU MARRY ME?


you could do a whole lot worse than billy

Eggy, for example... (but I didn't really say that)

WTG girl!!!!!

- Ace
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03-28-2005 08:05
hmmm :)
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03-28-2005 08:06
How about you Ace? Care to share your experience with Neualtinburg & the treatment that Ulrika gave you? Ace is another good example.
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03-28-2005 08:11
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
I personally fired you but it wasn't a decision made in a vacuum. What to do with Billy was a story unto itself that played out in email between several groups in the background. Ultimately, it was my last act as the project manager before transitioning rule to the provisional government.

HAHAHAHA… right. Nobody believes that. If it is true, how about giving us some names? You certainly have proved beyond a shadow of doubt that you are not credible.

I am still waiting for you to list even one well known conservative that is involved in YOUR group.

If any of you know Lector or Toy just ask then why they quit. Same stuff that you see here.

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Billy, you're fired for badgering group members and making libelous statements outside our group forum. Sorry that took so long.

Which is it? Change your mind again? Is it the thread you referenced or the blog??? HAHA

You were the only one I was confronting. The thread and blog stands for themselves no matter what lies you want to try and spread.

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Also, just to bring you up to speed, I am no longer the leader of the project. I don't even hold a position within the elected government. I'm a contributor who supports infrastructure and planning mainly from the forums. The project is now led by a group of elected representatives. Check out the forum. Err. Never mind. :D

~Ulrika~

You don’t get it… nobody outside of your tiny group cares.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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03-28-2005 08:12
From: Billy Grace
How about you Ace? Care to share your experience with Neualtinburg & the treatment that Ulrika gave you? Ace is another good example.
Ace was actually a contributing member (and perhaps still a member albeit no longer active) and someone whom I grew to respect over time. In addition to joining us in the forums for discussion, he also provided me with several very useful scripts and objects that contributed to our city wares.

While you might tempt him to join in on your commiseration, it does not mitigate your past destructive behavior in the group. I invite everyone to read the this thread and watch you transform.

~Ulrika~
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03-28-2005 08:13
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Ace was actually a contributing member (and perhaps still a member albeit no longer active) and someone whom I grew to respect over time. In addition to joining us in the forums for discussion, he also provided me with several very useful scripts and objects that contributed to our city wares.

While you might tempt him to join in on your commiseration, it doesn't change how you destructively you behaved in the group. I invite everyone to read the this thread and watch you transform.

~Ulrika~

Everybody can predice accurately what you think.

Ace, I assume you are not comfortable with Ulrika putting words in your mouth. Care to speak for yourself?
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03-28-2005 08:15
all it is is bait.. why take the bait.

Lets get back to the topic.. and you marrying all these gals??
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03-28-2005 08:17
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
I actually went easy on you, because at the time, based on your behavior, I thought you were a young child. Imagine my surprise when I found out you were an adult.QUOTE]
Oh, I almost let that one slide. This thread is evidence to all who behaves like a child. TY for the good laugh though. I will be chuckling about that one all day sweetie.
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03-28-2005 08:21
From: Vanillia Tapioca
all it is is bait.. why take the bait.

Lets get back to the topic.. and you marrying all these gals??

I know, I know... you are right. You know me, I just can't sit back and not respond to attacks. I know it is a fault of mine.

How about I just marry all of the girls who replied in this thread... with one exception of course... hehe. Wouldn't that be fun?

Apologies to Madiera for my irresistible need to respond to the trash Ulrika spreads. I will try to refrain and get back to having fun.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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03-28-2005 08:24
From: Billy Grace
Nobody believes that. If it is true, how about giving us some names? You certainly have proved beyond a shadow of doubt that you are not credible.
Believe it Billy. There wasn't a single argument to keep you in the group. The only reason you held on as long as you did is that at the time the others were worried about the public relations debacle you might create. We saw the damage you could do while you were in the group, we were afraid of what you'd do outside of the group.

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Which is it? Change your mind again? Is it the thread you referenced or the blog???
It's both. It started in this thread and continued in this blog. It's all there for anyone to read. For those who take time to review these threads, ask yourself if this is the kind of partner you'd like in your project. :)

Ultimately, the whole thing started when I discussed the art of rhetoric with you in the forum thread. It was beyond your comprehension, so you interpreted it the only way you could, by assuming it was an attack on your religious beliefs. After that you resorted to misogynistic name calling escalating the problem until your ire spilled across the forum and out into external blogs. It's just sad.

But of course from your viewpoint, it's all because we're "liberals" and not because you're a flawed and reactive person who has difficulty working in groups.

~Ulrika~
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03-28-2005 08:25
Talk to the hand... enough has been said... people can make up their own minds

still no names i see... hehe

Out of respect for Madiera, I will not be responding to this any longer. Make your own thread if you want to discuss this any further.
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03-28-2005 08:27
Look.. you dont deny your temper flares a bit too quick.
You dont deny your faith is important to you.
You dont deny that sometimes your biting at the chomp to respond even when you shouldnt. Its all been said. Anyone that knows you knows your true character and the rest is just goading and baiting to take you to places you know you really dont want to go. Why prolong the whats been said and defend yourself against obvious attempts to get you started again. Its not worth it. That is just my opinion tho.
Marry them all eh? You are old. I dont think your libido can take care of em all :):)
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03-28-2005 08:28
From: Vanillia Tapioca
Look.. you dont deny your temper flares a bit too quick.
You dont deny your faith is important to you.
You dont deny that sometimes your biting at the chomp to respond even when you shouldnt. Its all been said. Anyone that knows you knows your true character and the rest is just goading and baiting to take you to places you know you really dont want to go. Why prolong the whats been said and defend yourself against obvious attempts to get you started again. Its not worth it. That is just my opinion tho.
Marry them all eh? You are old. I dont think your libido can take care of em all :):)

haha... I'd like to give it a try though.

And yes, the rest id true darlin. TY for your intervention. You are a good friend. I wub U! Hugz!!!
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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03-28-2005 08:29
From: Billy Grace
TY for the good laugh though. I will be chuckling about that one all day sweetie.
There it is. :D

You were asked by several group members in person not to use misogynistic diminutive labels for females in our forum. I believe in that thread you even posted an apology for it. Yet when you're threatened it shows up like a poofy tail on a cat. Is talking down to females what Jesus would do, Billy?

~Ulrika~
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03-28-2005 08:30
Holy Fuck!!!

What a maelstrom... I think I'll duck.

Its kind of like when I have AJ-suited, and the other mofos go raising the pot bigtime.

- Ace
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