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Angelic Grace
Junior Member
Join date: 7 Apr 2004
Posts: 8
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05-06-2004 09:09
From: someone Originally posted by Cristiano Midnight I think that is my favorite signature ever. Hi and ty  I just wanted to say that there are many that are open-minded enough to see past that hate Death holds in his heart. I do as well. YES, it pains me that he has small minded views about other races, but he doesnt bring them up to me, or anyone else unless they ask. He doesnt hurt anyone, he doesn't spout "Kill the Jews!", or gun down people he doesnt like. We lead a very quiet life here, we build, we talk, we have many friends, and you'd never know his views without poking your nose in. I'm still sore that the origninal poster got upset. I mean really, what did you expect? You were informed of his views before you asked, you should have shrugged it off and walked away, OR not get offended when he confirmed what you suspected... either way you knew what you were getting into when you spoke to him... As for Death: I love my baby, but I do not subscribe to his beliefs. I personally love everyone equally. I have never "hated" anyone, and I do not think of people in slanderous terms. I'm truely sorry if any offense has been taken by his words/actions, but I don't take responsibility for them, that's his job. I do my best to "keep him in line" and prevent him from hurting people by saying things that are hurtful, but I don't feel it's fair, honestly. Churches are available in SL, and though people speak out about them, no one gets them ejected from SL. Should my baby have to suffer that fate? I think not! He's really a nice guy, and YES I DO DEFEND HIM. If not for me, no one would stand up for him... I dont condone his beliefs but rather see past them to the true self he hides from everyone else. He is, like so many others, a product of his environment, and it's only partly his fault he is the way he is. However this all being said, he is still one of the most noble and sweet human beings I've ever met, and I thought this even before I knew his views, and still continue to think so, in spite of them. *Can't we all just get along?!* and as always: *Death's Baby Girl*
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Kasandra Morgan
Self-Declared Goddess
Join date: 17 Mar 2004
Posts: 639
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05-07-2004 06:09
I was fortunate enough to run into Death once. A group of friends and I were discussing God and he happened to walk by. Eventually, he managed to turn the discussion to race and my opinion on it didn't count for obvious reasons. But I will say this, he explained my inferiority to me so politely I would have never thought to report him. I am big on free speech and everyone being entitled to their opinions, no matter how stupid. But I did delete that couch he had sat on because I could not believe someone who thought like that entered MY house, sat on MY couch and tried to turn MY friends against me. Go figure.
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Selador Cellardoor
Registered User
Join date: 16 Nov 2003
Posts: 3,082
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05-07-2004 07:27
<<the Lindens wouldn't object (and I could very well be wrong) to some group of "neo-nazis" setting up a club somewhere in-world. So long as they weren't actively bothering people, having a club with a swastika on the front wouldn't be any worse, legally or ideologically, than a church with a cross on it.>>
The day that happened would be the day I left SL.
I'm amazed by some of the comments I have read in this forum. Perhaps people who have no direct links to recent European history can say things which, I have to say, seem to me to be totally inane. Oh, he's a nazi, but apart from that he's a great person. Oh, he might espouse views which call for the extermination of many of the people in sl, but he doesn't make an issue of it, so why should we?
Are you people living in the same world (real or second) I am?
IMV, being a nazi is similar to being a paranoid or suffering from OCD. It's a reaction of a mind gone wrong to an environment it can't cope with. The problem is, being a political aberration it can spread. And the place to which it leads is a place of pure evil.
I have spent a long time in conversation with someone who is a survivor of Belsen, and to hear her describe the things that happened is almost unbearable. She still suffers today as a result. To hear someone talking about it in a matter-of-fact tone gives an immediacy missing from reading accounts.
When I was a child I was shown photographs of some of the concentration camps by my parents, specifically so that I would not forget what people are capable of, and I know this happened to several people I know of my generation. We haven't forgotten, and we hate and find deeply offensive any expression of these disgusting views.
I find it very unpleasant that anybody with these views is allowed to pollute this world with their presence. If I were Jewish I can't imagine how I would feel. To me a nazi is an abomination, and I certainly don't wish to meet or talk to one of them.
I'm sorry if this message is somewhat rambling, but my reaction to this thread is very visceral. As someone who was alive before the war's end and lived through the period when these crimes gradually came to light, I'm afraid I believe that a nazi is the scum of the earth. I don't believe they belong in sl.
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Bhodi Silverman
Jaron Lanier Groupie
Join date: 9 Sep 2003
Posts: 608
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05-07-2004 07:51
From: someone Originally posted by David Cartier Yes, and no cheeseburgers with bacon on them for you! Maybe if the world were run by Jewish women... I could deal with that. And, David, just what makes you think it isn't? Oh, oops, wasn't s'posed to say that out loud. Bhodi, who damn well THINKS she rules the world, at least.
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Julian Fate
80's Pop Star
Join date: 19 Oct 2003
Posts: 1,020
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Re: Ty for the compliment, I think...
05-07-2004 13:46
From: someone Originally posted by Angelic Grace I personally love everyone equally. Does that mean you're my baby girl too? Call me fascist (oh, the irony) but there are some views it's simply not ok to hold even if they are private. To be a nazi in the 1930's, I can see the appeal that it had as a political movement. To be a nazi today, knowing or denying what has happened, indicates either mental illness or a grotesque disregard for decency and a childish desire to rebel for rebellion's sake. It's not cool, or tough, or impressive. It doesn't demonstrate integrity, or heroic devotion. It is sad and sick and shameful. The fact that you are unable to feel that shame is itself a symptom of your disease. Flame on.
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Kasandra Morgan
Self-Declared Goddess
Join date: 17 Mar 2004
Posts: 639
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05-07-2004 20:00
*Grabs Julian Fate and kisses him!*
Enough flame for ya?
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