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Homosexual to head up RNC

Neehai Zapata
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11-30-2004 21:09
I love it!

Let the Christain Coalition suck on that one.
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Juro Kothari
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11-30-2004 21:20
Get the f*ck out.... I can die now... I've heard it all.

Seriously... details! Who is it?
Isis Becquerel
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11-30-2004 21:23
Either Bush has seen the light and realized that sexual orientation has nothing to do with a person's right and ability to excell in society or he is hedging his bets that when Mehlman says that he will not say whether or not he is gay or straight he means straight...teehee. Sure and the normal hetero sexual male response is "I'm not telling" :p Has he actually come out yet?

from AP
President Bush today tapped the manager of his re-election campaign, Ken Mehlman, to head the Republican Party.

Mehlman, a protege of chief White House strategist Karl Rove, is Bush's pick to replace party chairman Ed Gillespie, who is returning to the private sector. The Republican National Committee formally selects the party chair early next year, and Bush's recommendation holds enormous sway.

"Ken has served the Republican Party and the president with honor and distinction," said White House press secretary Scott McClellan.

While Rove is considered the driving force behind Bush's political strategy, Mehlman is widely credited as the organizing genius who turned White House orders into action. From the campaign's headquarters in Arlington, Va., he oversaw an Amway-like political organization that recruited tens of thousands of volunteers, assigned them political tasks and held them accountable.

Mehlman directed a multimillion-dollar advertising and operations budget while smoothing over conflicts between the White House, the campaign and the scores of senior Republicans who offered advice and criticism from the sidelines.
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Before joining Bush's team, he worked on Capitol Hill and practiced environmental law in Washington. Mehlman is a graduate of Harvard Law School and Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster, Pa.

Here's a site that offers a tad of background and a bit of opinion....

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=18160
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11-30-2004 23:14
Okay, so the guy's gay, and he's sided with (and now chosen for an important position to represent) a bunch of bigots, racists, homophobic gun-freaks who want to destroy people just like him.

Is that the moral of the story here...? Or...are just a few incorrect assumptions being made?

Logic test: Failed.

Something isn't adding up here.
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12-01-2004 00:11
It wouldn't be the first time a homosexual has sided with what would normally be considered 'the other side'.

Sad, but true.
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12-01-2004 06:49
From: Garoad Kuroda
Okay, so the guy's gay, and he's sided with (and now chosen for an important position to represent) a bunch of bigots, racists, homophobic gun-freaks who want to destroy people just like him.

Is that the moral of the story here...? Or...are just a few incorrect assumptions being made?

Logic test: Failed.

Something isn't adding up here.



Yikes! Generalize much? And before you jump on the bigot, racist thing...look into Dem. Senator Robert Byrd's background...or Al Gore's pappy. Don't be so bitter about the party the man is due to head, maybe some positive changes can come out of his taking the position. Remember, the bigoted, racist, homophobic, gun freak Republican party was once the party of Lincoln...and the Dems at one time used to be considered the "cracker" party that hated people of color, differing sexual preferences, integration etc. If this guy can soften the Republican's stand concerning homosexuals, I say, more power to him. Conversely, if he is just there as a figurehead of some sort, what can it hurt?
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Neehai Zapata
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12-01-2004 07:16
Oh, he's gay. Secrets are hard to keep in this town. :)

By the way Isis, nice article. John Aravosis who commented in that article is a very good friend. Sadly for Mehlman, John is also like a genius pitbull. Once he latches on, that's pretty much the end of it.

I don't have that much of a problem with a homosexual heading up the RNC. I like it so much that I sent letters to every Christian Coalition member applauding their move to promote a homosexual so high in their political ranks. You should to. :)
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12-01-2004 07:25
From: Neehai Zapata
Oh, he's gay. Secrets are hard to keep in this town. :)

By the way Isis, nice article. John Aravosis who commented in that article is a very good friend. Sadly for Mehlman, John is also like a genius pitbull. Once he latches on, that's pretty much the end of it.

I don't have that much of a problem with a homosexual heading up the RNC. I like it so much that I sent letters to every Christian Coalition member applauding their move to promote a homosexual so high in their political ranks. You should to. :)



You are absolutely awesome Neehai! ROTFLMAO! *** setting up the form letter right now *** :D
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12-01-2004 08:22
If you could either post the replies from the Christian coalition or send them to me in PM, I would be dazzled. :)
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12-01-2004 08:54
From: Garoad Kuroda
Okay, so the guy's gay, and he's sided with (and now chosen for an important position to represent) a bunch of bigots, racists, homophobic gun-freaks who want to destroy people just like him.

Is that the moral of the story here...? Or...are just a few incorrect assumptions being made?

Logic test: Failed.

Something isn't adding up here.


Undercover agent?
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12-01-2004 09:20
Let’s all give a rowdy hurrah for our President, George W. Bush. I am so glad to see you all finally giving him credit for surrounding himself with more diversity than any president in the history of the United States. Something no democrat has ever done.

Oh, and I hate to burst your bubble but as a Christian myself I applaud this appointment. Please explain to me why you think I should have any problem with this. Poof… there goes another stereotype.

From: Neehai Zapata
Let the Christain Coalition suck on that one.


From: Garoad Kuroda
Okay, so the guy's gay, and he's sided with (and now chosen for an important position to represent) a bunch of bigots, racists, homophobic gun-freaks who want to destroy people just like him.


Once again… liberal hatred and jealousy on display for everyone to see.

From: Garoad Kuroda
Is that the moral of the story here...? Or...are just a few incorrect assumptions being made?

Logic test: Failed.

Something isn't adding up here.

The moral of the story is that all of your prejudices and bias about republicans are wrong. The logic fails and it doesn’t add up because you base your conclusions on a pack of lies.
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12-01-2004 09:28
It is a true FACT - people are, well, just people. Condi Rice... and the new gay guy... ya know they too can have politics that suck considering what groups they are perceived to be aligned with because of the color of skin or sexual preference.

Just because it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, flies like a duck doesn't mean that it will pee like a duck.

If I were a duck, you cn depend on me peeing like a duck!!! :D
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Isis Becquerel
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12-01-2004 09:36
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Let’s all give a rowdy hurrah for our President, George W. Bush. I am so glad to see you all finally giving him credit for surrounding himself with more diversity than any president in the history of the United States. Something no democrat has ever done.

Oh, and I hate to burst your bubble but as a Christian myself I applaud this appointment. Please explain to me why you think I should have any problem with this. Poof… there goes another stereotype.

Once again… liberal hatred and jealousy on display for everyone to see.


The moral of the story is that all of your prejudices and bias about republicans are wrong. The logic fails and it doesn’t add up because you base your conclusions on a pack of lies.



What? Surrounding himself with leg humping Shitzu's regardless of their ethnicity or sexuality doesn't make him Queen for four years. That aside, they have given the job to a CLOSETED homosexual (or the only straight man in the world who will not admit to being straight), not exactly someone who represents gay Americans. So get off the cross sweety, nobody is attacking Bush or the Christians. Just pointing out that someone who calls Gays out as a threat to the fabric of America and then appoints a homosexual to a very important office may be a couple pickles short of a Big Mac. So applaud away, he somehow found the one hispanic who believes the Geneva convention is archaic and unnecessary, the one black woman with an oil tanker named after her (they changed the name recently from what I heard) and the one gay man besides little Richard who believes that his own sexuality is a threat to the moral fiber of America. :rolleyes:

Anyhow neither Bush nor the RNC had anything to do with any of these appointments....They are all Rove babies.
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12-01-2004 09:53
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12-01-2004 10:49
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Homosexual to head up RNC
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I love it!


So? Are you saying that all homosexuals are good people?

Can you explain why he is the best choice for the position other than his sexual preference? I am not saying he is not, most likely he is, but...

I am not jumping of joy because Alberto Gonzales was nominated for the US Attorney General position, even though I am Latin American. I don't personally know the man, and as far as I know he can be the biggest racist jerk in the world. Him having a Spanish surname does not make him special in my eyes. Like everyone else, he must prove himself to earn my respect.

That is one thing I do not understand about the USA. Everyone loves to segregate themselves into all these little 'clicks'; I am a latino, I am a woman, I am homosexual...
No wonder there is so much mistrust and hate between the races, sexes, religions, and ethnic groups.

True equality means that you understand that there are good people and bad people, period. It makes no difference what their nationality, color, religion, ethnicity, or sexual preference may be.


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12-01-2004 10:55
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So? Are you saying that all homosexuals are good people?

Can you explain why he is the best choice for the position other than his sexual preference? I am not saying he is not, most likely he is, but...

I am not jumping of joy because Alberto Gonzales was nominated for the US Attorney General position, even though I am Latin American. I don't personally know the man, and as far as I know he can be the biggest racist jerk in the world. Him having a Spanish surname does not make him special in my eyes. Like everyone else, he must prove himself to earn my respect.

That is one thing I do not understand about the USA. Everyone loves to segregate themselves into all these little 'clicks'; I am a latino, I am a woman, I am homosexual...
No wonder there is so much mistrust and hate between the races, sexes, religions, and ethnic groups.

True equality means that you understand that there are good people and bad people, period. It makes no difference what their nationality, color, religion, ethnicity, or sexual preference may be.


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And you called me a diplomat !! /clap :)
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12-01-2004 10:58
From: Billy Grace
Let’s all give a rowdy hurrah for our President, George W. Bush. I am so glad to see you all finally giving him credit for surrounding himself with more diversity than any president in the history of the United States. Something no democrat has ever done.

Oh, and I hate to burst your bubble but as a Christian myself I applaud this appointment. Please explain to me why you think I should have any problem with this. Poof… there goes another stereotype.

Once again… liberal hatred and jealousy on display for everyone to see.

The moral of the story is that all of your prejudices and bias about republicans are wrong. The logic fails and it doesn’t add up because you base your conclusions on a pack of lies.


He appointed a closet homosexual who is clearly ashamed of his lifestyle...

...and considering Bush, himself, is against equal rights for Gay people and actually is calling for an amendment to the Constitution of The United States to establish gay people as having fewer rights than all other citizens, I'd hardly give him the golden key of diversity just yet.

Your President and his band of neo-con thugs are hate-mongers, but I don't think all republicans are hate-mongers.
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12-01-2004 11:00
From: Kendra Bancroft

Your President and his band of neo-con thugs are hate-mongers, but I don't think all republicans are hate-mongers.

Aww thank you Kendra ! :)
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12-01-2004 11:02
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So applaud away, he somehow found the one hispanic who believes the Geneva convention is archaic


Ehem.... I think a little reading up on Latin American history is necessary here...

The history of Latin America, from Mexico to Argentina, is full of despotism, tyranny, abuse, torture, racism, oppression....

Are you saying that all those animals in the annals of Latin American history were not Hispanic?

Please do not assume that because we come from South of the border or the Caribbean we all look the same, think the same, and act the same. Each one of us is an individual; some good, some bad, some right wing, some left wing, some hate America, some love America.

Why does everyone assume that because you belong to a "group" you think exactly alike as all other members of the group? Ridiculous!

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12-01-2004 11:52
From: Kendra Bancroft
He appointed a closet homosexual who is clearly ashamed of his lifestyle...

Must not be a very big closet if everyone knows he is gay… rofl

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...and considering Bush, himself, is against equal rights for Gay people and actually is calling for an amendment to the Constitution of The United States to establish gay people as having fewer rights than all other citizens, I'd hardly give him the golden key of diversity just yet.


Ok… just for kicks I have one question. Granted Bush is for marriage to be defined as between a man and a woman. In what other ways is he “against equal rights for gays”? I would appreciate an answer to this because I honestly cannot think of even one.

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Your President and his band of neo-con thugs are hate-mongers,

When will you learn Kendra that name calling really adds nothing to your argument and in fact makes you look petty and prejudice. It in fact undermines any legitimacy you may have in what you are fighting for. I see it as totally unnecessary but am amazed at how often it appears in these forums.

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but I don't think all republicans are hate-mongers.

I agree with you and acknowledge that I feel the same way about liberals.
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12-01-2004 12:03
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Ehem.... I think a little reading up on Latin American history is necessary here...

The history of Latin America, from Mexico to Argentina, is full of despotism, tyranny, abuse, torture, racism, oppression....

Are you saying that all those animals in the annals of Latin American history were not Hispanic?

Please do not assume that because we come from South of the border or the Caribbean we all look the same, think the same, and act the same. Each one of us is an individual; some good, some bad, some right wing, some left wing, some hate America, some love America.

Why does everyone assume that because you belong to a "group" you think exactly alike as all other members of the group? Ridiculous!
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You assume much and possibly should consider reading the lines instead of reading into them some form of bigotry or narrow-mindedness you wish to find.

If I am not mistaken he is the only hispanic in America who holds political office and openly states that he believes that the Geneva Convention is obsolete. I don't believe that I infered in anyway that the current administration's use of minorities or women in order to give the illusion of an unbiased view is in anyway politically correct. Sorry that I did not take the way back machine into the realms of the historical political infrastructures in the Latin nations of the world, but I didn't think we were discussing the political machines of Mexico and South America. If I offended you I will change it to a Hispanic American polititian who believes the Geneva Conventions were obsolete and leave you to find any others who align themselves in a similar fashion.
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12-01-2004 12:07
From: Billy Grace
Must not be a very big closet if everyone knows he is gay… rofl



Ok… just for kicks I have one question. Granted Bush is for marriage to be defined as between a man and a woman. In what other ways is he “against equal rights for gays”? I would appreciate an answer to this because I honestly cannot think of even one.


When will you learn Kendra that name calling really adds nothing to your argument and in fact makes you look petty and prejudice. It in fact undermines any legitimacy you may have in what you are fighting for. I see it as totally unnecessary but am amazed at how often it appears in these forums.


I agree with you and acknowledge that I feel the same way about liberals.


1) all closets are small. This guy, however, is far from out.
2) against anti-discrimination in the workplace, against classifying gay-bashing as a hate crime, anti civil-unions for gays (an action which denies gay people thousands of rights that heterosexuals take for granted)
3)It's not supposed to add to my arguement --it's supposed to frame my arguement. I don't care how it makes me look, I won't be cowed into being polite to villains.
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12-01-2004 13:10
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1) all closets are small. This guy, however, is far from out.

If he is not in fact out then why are we talking about it? LOL

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2) against anti-discrimination in the workplace,

I will leave in the possibility that I am wrong but I do not believe Bush supports discriminating against gays in the workplace. Please provide information supporting this accusation.

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against classifying gay-bashing as a hate crime,

I honestly do not know about this either. Please provide information supporting this accusation too.

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anti civil-unions for gays (an action which denies gay people thousands of rights that heterosexuals take for granted)

This is basically the same issue as gay marriage to me. I should have included that in my initial question.

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3)It's not supposed to add to my arguement

Yes, I agree. It adds nothing to your argument and in fact takes away from it.

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--it's supposed to frame my arguement.

Yes, it also does frame it too… in a veil of hate and viciousness. Well done!

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I don't care how it makes me look, I won't be cowed into being polite to villains.

I would never make the heinous accusation that you were polite. I will refrain from any attempt to do so out of my respect for you.
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12-01-2004 13:34
From: Billy Grace
I will leave in the possibility that I am wrong but I do not believe Bush supports discriminating against gays in the workplace. Please provide information supporting this accusation.


http://www.equality.org.za/news/2004/04/02whitehouse.php


From: Billy Grace
I honestly do not know about this (Non-inclusion of gay-bashing as a hate crime) either. Please provide information supporting this accusation too.


http://www.cultureandfamily.org/articledisplay.asp?id=374&department=CFI&categoryid=cfreport
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12-01-2004 13:42
From: Billy Grace
If he is not in fact out then why are we talking about it? LOL


It's all speculation at this time, Billy. He is IN the closet, as he's not confirmed/denied his alleged homosexuality.
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