Observation about the teen thing

Why does it seem that those not wanting the teen grid and are claiming to worry about porno and inappropriate content, have no kids in real life. Yet, people like myself, with kids eager to play, are not so worried?

Just a question, please dont flame me for being curious.

Beau, What makes you think we don't have children or have not raised children in RL?

I am not saying ALL, but speaking to people in world, most the people against it do not have children, and most the people for it do have children.

I have kids... your point is???

Another question, why do so many people get an attitude just for asking a question?



No point ass, like I stated, I was just curious.

I think its easier to imagine nightmare scenarios as a single person rather than if you've had kids, and realize that they are smarter than people think, and only need some guidance to make the right choices, whatever they may be.

lol, kids are complicated creatures. I suppose all people are more complicated than they seem but it's always noticeable in kids. I dunno about the policing, but I do think a teen grid is better than having them on the main grid. For them and to keep those few who very obviously act their age, out of our hair.

Now for the comedic factor, I'm only 24 so what the heck am I talking about , seems like just yesterday I was knee high to a grasshopper. Hey it was a really big grasshopper okay!

Beau--because people are eager to see failure in teenagers much more than they are willing to say, "Teenagers have great potential." Being a teen just a few years ago, I find the stereotyping that has been going on lately fairly offensive, personally. Thank you for being a trusting parent. My parents told me growing up that the more freedom they gave me the less I got into trouble. Quite frankly, they couldn't have been more right.

For me now its not so much the "PORN" aspect as it is the intergrid exchange IE the money thing. With this being the case I have news for ya. Wont matter what age they set the money hounds that couldnt make it here will migrate to the Teen grid.

Why its fresh they will be new and the propensity for profit immeasurable.

Welcome to TSL 2005 where 1 teen grid crashed the Main Grid Economy.

Oh well squeeky wheel gets the grease...SQUEEK SQUEEK

I don't see that much of a problem, even with the shared economy. Put your objects for sale in SLExchange, if they end up putting that in the Teen grid. All I really see changing is a new market.

I have children. I have a few concerns:

I see the potential for a tremendous inequity in the way that merchants are selected to sell to the teen grid.

I see the potential for a catastrophic collapse of the $L economy.

I worry about the financial ramifications that a pedifilia lawsuit may have against LL.

IMO - the $L should not at all be used or transfered between grids.
This is going to encourage adult users to go to that grid for profit. Of this I have no doubt.

These children will have access to our scripts through 3rd party websites, they are not starting from scratch as our beta members did.

On the happier side of all of this I think it would be so cool to watch how their world develops. I just hope this new venture is approached with EXTREME caution.

Here are some other similar rationale:

Lets quit supervising our kids. They are capable of thinking for themselves.
Let's make saloons and bars for our kids. Teach them how to drink responsibly.
Let's give our kids drivers licenses. Im sure kids will be good drivers. If they can reach the pedals.
Let's let our kids buy erotica and pornography. They get it in popups and webserches anyway.
Let's let our kids smoke cigarettes. That seems to be widely accepted by adults.
Let's lower the labor standards to let our kids work. They can make us lots of money, and isn't money why Linden Labs want to do this? In fact kids make great airline pilots and doctors.

Seriously, SL is an adult game. Thanks LL for creating dessention among subscribers.

You are getting flamed for the way you worded your question. As for myself, I do not have children. I did however spend several years of my life helping my now 18 year old cousin deal with the legal and emotional impact of being victimized by an adult he met online at the age of 14, and saw first hand the devastation this causes. I am not opposed to the grid, but there are some valid concerns about it. Just because you have children and could care less about it does not mean others feel that way.

Having a child does not mean you are the only one concerned about what happens to children or the only one whose input regarding this matters. Your question comes across as extremely arrogant, and that is why you were flamed, including by some people with children.

I have a child, my son is 8.. and I am not really for or against the teen grid, LL is a business and as a business they are doing the right thing by opening it up to teens.... *I* as a parent would never allow my child to play Second Life as a teen, *I* as a parent would encourage my child to do other activities and enjoy his chilhood rather than be behind a computer for hours, playing an online game... *I* as a parent have to control what my child does, NOT Linden Labs. I think you guys are pointing the fingers at the wrong people here... if a teen gets on SL and does something they should not or are exposed to something they should not be, that IS the parents fault, NOT Linden Labs.

well said sensual and I feel the same way as you. Except for not letting him spend his time playing SL. I do make my son take part in many activities. But if he was playing SL tinkering with scripting and what now, there is great stuff he would be learning.

Sensual,

I agree with you completely. However, there are steps that Linden Lab can take to ensure that it is as safe of an environment for them as they can offer. The responsibility ultimately lies with the parents, but that does not mean that Linden Lab shares no responsibility in creating a service that is appropriate for the age group it is targetting, including protections designed for that group.

Very true and I dont think it makes someone a bad parent for allowing that, What WILL make someone a bad parent is to let thier teen run free not only on SL, but on the internet, without any kind of supervision.

I think Robin made it clear that they will do whatever they possibly can to make it a safe enviorement for the teens.

Yes, she did clarify that, and I agree that is a good thing.

so then pardon me for asking... whats the problem? you posted on another thread that you were unsatisfied with the responses.

She clarified it in that thread - she did not clarify it in the town hall itself.

Never did I critisize anyone point of view. If I did, then I would accept you saying I sound arrogant. All I was trying to do was pose a question. Besides, only one person flamed me, I think everyone else gave pretty good answers that explained some stuff to me.

I think some people are just naturaly defensive and think right off the bat I was critisizing them. I never critisize someones opinion.

hmm I think she was approached and questioned several times, I may be mistaken, but I think she answered it as best as anyone could without predicting the future.

Beau, as I said, I think it was just in the question itself - your use of the word claiming set the tone of the question -as if those who did not have children were just claiming to be concerned, while those with children had no concerns, as if people without children were just making an uproar just to do so. I don't think either is accurate - people with and without children are concerned about some things, others are not, and we all are free to voice our opinions on it, yourself included. I think the grid is a great idea, I just would like to see it designed from the ground up with strong tools in place to deal with problems that will arise. Problem resolution has not been LL's strongest suit in our own grid, so concerns about it and how it will affect children are not unfounded.

Suggestion:

Create a offline version, where kids can learn how to create. Afterall, this is about kids learning.

There are too many flaws in the current plan.