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Merwan Marker
Booring...
Join date: 28 Jan 2004
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05-11-2005 15:56
From: Anshe Chung Translation:
"Dear Linden Lab,
I am one of your long time feted inner core buddies. For many months I have enjoyed being on top in this virtual world, being 'in' with all my beta buddies and my Linden Lab beta friends. Everybody who wanted to get somewhere in Second Life had to go through our clique. Until March 2004 the Second Life world was as it should be: we ruled!
Now this Anshe Chung appeared. Our clique tried really hard to stop her. Not all of us of course, but we, the most dedicated and power hungry ones! We mass neg rated her, we tried to drag her reputation through the mud on the forums. We had countless phone calls, e-mails and in world conversations with our beta Linden buddies about her. But, unfortunately we just couldn't nail this bitch. She has not only become economically successful but despite our concerted efforts there are people who trust or even like her!
Please please please, dear Lindens, dear good beta buddies, please do something about her. This situation is unbearable. Please change Second Life and nerf Anshe's business. Give us a chance to regain our power!
Yours faithfully
Merwan FIC Marker" Strange you would do this in my name. I am not a beta player, have never ahd any meeting with beta-buddies about anyone in SL, never neg rated anyone, have not joined any mass-anything, do not know any Linden-alts, and have never had power to loose in SL. I simply have done my best to play this game by the rules of the TOS. Yet you continue to mistake me for someone else. FYI Ansche, I sent Robin Linden an eMail today asking if I could announce this at the Town Hall meeting. She never replied to my email. Why try to spoil you're own party? 
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Seth Kanahoe
political fugue artist
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05-11-2005 16:13
Welcome to the Beta Wars. It was only a matter of time.
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Prokofy Neva
Virtualtor
Join date: 28 Sep 2004
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05-11-2005 16:16
There's a game? Where?
Deal me in!
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blaze Spinnaker
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05-11-2005 16:17
Unfortunately Seth, myth or unconcious conspiracy, there is a group of individuals who wish to set the agenda in SecondLife.
Whether Merwan is consciously apart of this or not is a question for debate, however this mentality clearly exists.
What we need to do is let linden lab create an ecology of ideas where evolution can occur and the best ideas will win out - regardless of what the special interests groups think.
I believe a very strong case can be made that Anshe is well aware of that evolution and is one of the very very few that is looking for ways for SL to truly survive beyond some charity situation where venture capital is slowly frittered away to keep a few beta charter members happy.
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
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05-11-2005 16:32
From: blaze Spinnaker Unfortunately Seth, myth or unconcious conspiracy, there is a group of individuals who wish to set the agenda in SecondLife... ...and their names are Prokofy Neva and Blaze Spinnaker.
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blaze Spinnaker
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05-11-2005 16:39
Yes, I do have an agenda. The agenda is that we should let the best ideas bubble to the top.
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StoneSelf Karuna
His Grace
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05-11-2005 16:40
From: blaze Spinnaker venture capital is slowly frittered away to keep a few beta charter members happy. Jarod Godel: What do the Lindens think of the "techie/wiki" community? Or the Feted/Fetid Inner Core? Robin Linden: I think it's an interesting myth.
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StoneSelf Karuna
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05-11-2005 16:41
Jarod Godel: What do the Lindens think of the "techie/wiki" community? Or the Feted/Fetid Inner Core? Robin Linden: I think it's an interesting myth.
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
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05-11-2005 16:44
From: blaze Spinnaker Yes, I do have an agenda. The agenda is that we should let the best ideas bubble to the top. And how is endlessly rambling on about conspiracy theories and problems that don't actually exist working towards that end? Funny, but I wouldn't have thought singling out the worst of all ideas for endless repetition to be a very effective means of cultivating good ideas, especially since you ignore anything that doesn't fit your preconceived notions. Nice bit of self aggrandizing there, but you're not fooling anyone.
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blaze Spinnaker
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05-11-2005 16:47
Chip, have you ever noticed that every single response you have to something I post sounds really angry? And that every post I reply to is always pretty calm?
Have you ever wondered why that is?
Mostly because I think you're a smart guy and you have a lot of interesting things to suggest. I find it a little (not much though) sad that you don't appreciate my point of view more, but that's ok because I generally learn quite a bit from reading yours.
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Seth Kanahoe
political fugue artist
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
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05-11-2005 16:51
From: blaze Spinnaker Unfortunately Seth, myth or unconcious conspiracy, there is a group of individuals who wish to set the agenda in SecondLife. Myth, unconscious conspiracy, or political ideology on the part of those who make a career out of exposing it? From: blaze Spinnaker Whether Merwan is consciously apart of this or not is a question for debate, however this mentality clearly exists. Why would I want to debate about Merwan? And if such a mentality exists, why is this incredible new news? It's a human condition that has existed since before humans were humans. It's called "social hierachy". It sucks, yes. We ought to behave differently, yes. It's normal, yes. From: blaze Spinnaker What we need to do is let linden lab create an ecology of ideas where evolution can occur and the best ideas will win out - regardless of what the special interests groups think. Well, now, here you're saying something.. But I don't agree. I don't regard LL as my nanny-in-SL. The ecology of ideas and a meritorious selection process is up to you, blaze. And me. And everybody else. If you're not part of the group, you can do several things. You network the group. Or, you build something so wonderful that no one can deny it. Or, you tell the group to piss off and go your own way in SL. Your problem, and Prokofy's, is that you're both soft-hearted utopianists, dreamers, and crusaders. You really expect people to behave differently in SL than they do in RL. Nope. Revolutions are always messy, exact a moral price, and replace one group with another. (It's called "restribution of property" and it works. And no, I'm not a leftist.) It sucks, yes. We ought to behave differently, yes. It's normal, yes. From: blaze Spinnaker I believe a very strong case can be made that Anshe is well aware of that evolution and is one of the very very few that is looking for ways for SL to truly survive beyond some charity situation where venture capital is slowly frittered away to keep a few beta charter members happy. I agree that venture capital is often wasted in SL. But that's because SL doesn't really have an economy, yet. Contracts, arbitration, rule of law, necessary structured financial system, etc. Anshe is one of the "very, very few" who have been able to impose her own rules on a lawless, unstructured, wasteful economic environment. Good for her. If I had the same interests she does, I'd have tried to do the same thing. SL's a frontier town. A few guilds, and a few patronis with private armies controlling certain valued commodities. The railroad hasn't come through yet. When it does, things may change dramatically.
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
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05-11-2005 16:56
From: blaze Spinnaker Yes, I do have an agenda. The agenda is that we should let the best ideas bubble to the top. I have that agenda too as well Blaze..  Yeah.. you say I'm too nice, others don't listen to what I say.. and to a point I agree.. Yes my presentation is sweet.. At least on the forums.. there are some in world who know a much darker side of me.. But, I see myself getting listened to, even if not acknowledged. And I stand against prok, and others, that claim there is some conspiracy at work here. You certainly seem to tie yourself to that claim, even if not intended... But, I also see myself ... And I stand against.. many of the same arguments you present.. Well hell. I guess I see myself as proof that a person can stand within and outside the "IN CROWD" and still get heard, or loved, or welcomed, or hated... I still stand by my thoughts that presentation means a world of difference.. 
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
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05-11-2005 17:06
From: blaze Spinnaker Chip, have you ever noticed that every single response you have to something I post sounds really angry? And that every post I reply to is always pretty calm?
Have you ever wondered why that is? No, I don't wonder about it because I'm intimately aquainted with the reason... your posts annoy me. Anyone who posts with "an agenda" annoys me. Agendas are like earplugs that prevent you from listening. The fact that you're still propogating the myth of the FIC and techi-wiki-whatever is proof of it. If the issues you liked to harp on were benign it wouldn't bother me, but they're not. They create division, suspicion, and resentment. I've never thought trying to drive a wedge between various segments of the SL population to be a particularly noble goal.
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blaze Spinnaker
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05-11-2005 17:15
From: someone Your problem, and Prokofy's, is that you're both soft-hearted utopianists, dreamers, and crusaders. You really expect people to behave differently in SL than they do in RL.
Nope. Revolutions are always messy, exact a moral price, and replace one group with another. (It's called "restribution of property" and it works. And no, I'm not a leftist.) It sucks, yes. We ought to behave differently, yes. It's normal, yes.
Ahaha. Too true, too true.
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Pete Fats
Geek
Join date: 18 Apr 2003
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05-11-2005 17:39
From: Anshe Chung nerf Anshe Best. Quote. Ever! That ranks right up there with the 'Hey Blizzard, nerf my wife...' from the WoW boards.
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Artemis Fate
I'm a big stupid-face.
Join date: 24 Oct 2003
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05-11-2005 18:09
From: Anshe Chung Translation:
"Dear Linden Lab,
I am one of your long time feted inner core buddies. For many months I have enjoyed being on top in this virtual world, being 'in' with all my beta buddies and my Linden Lab beta friends. Everybody who wanted to get somewhere in Second Life had to go through our clique. Until March 2004 the Second Life world was as it should be: we ruled!
Now this Anshe Chung appeared. Our clique tried really hard to stop her. Not all of us of course, but we, the most dedicated and power hungry ones! We mass neg rated her, we tried to drag her reputation through the mud on the forums. We had countless phone calls, e-mails and in world conversations with our beta Linden buddies about her. But, unfortunately we just couldn't nail this bitch. She has not only become economically successful but despite our concerted efforts there are people who trust or even like her!
Please please please, dear Lindens, dear good beta buddies, please do something about her. This situation is unbearable. Please change Second Life and nerf Anshe's business. Give us a chance to regain our power!
Yours faithfully
Merwan FIC Marker" I think Anshe ate Prokofy and absorbed his soul 0_0. Or maybe she bought it?
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Artemis Fate
I'm a big stupid-face.
Join date: 24 Oct 2003
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05-11-2005 18:11
Also anyone have any tips on killing Philip Linden? He keeps using that damn freeze/suspend combo and I get kicked out of the last boss area for a week. I even tried using the Sword of the FIC but he just ignored it.
He's a tough one!
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Siggy Romulus
DILLIGAF
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05-11-2005 18:23
Use my attachment of Linden ballkicking...
He seems to be immune to my Yokozuna fatality move.
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Vudu Suavage
Feral Twisted Torus
Join date: 27 Jul 2004
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05-11-2005 19:07
Blaze does generally strike me as Goebbels to Prokofy's Hitler--sorry guys, but certain aspects of 20th century history have given the "Enemy Within" power-bid a bad name.
Maybe you should try claiming that There is harboring malicious coders; "Outside Aggressors" still seems to work like a charm.
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
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05-11-2005 19:27
pfft.. I'm sticking to my earlier realization a few posts back in this thread... Ignore it all you want.. I'm floored.. haha 
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
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05-11-2005 20:36
Doesn't the word "undisputed" sort of indicate that no one's disputed it?
Do the definitions of words mean anything anymore?
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Jillian Callahan
Rotary-winged Neko Girl
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05-11-2005 20:45
From: Hiro Pendragon Doesn't the word "undisputed" sort of indicate that no one's disputed it?
Do the definitions of words mean anything anymore? What do you mean by that? 
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Merwan Marker
Booring...
Join date: 28 Jan 2004
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05-11-2005 20:57
From: Hiro Pendragon Doesn't the word "undisputed" sort of indicate that no one's disputed it? Do the definitions of words mean anything anymore? Does to me Hiro! 
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Garoad Kuroda
Prophet of Muppetry
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05-11-2005 21:00
From: Hiro Pendragon Do the definitions of words mean anything anymore?
Nah. But anyway...doesn't Anshe pay alot of RL$ or something to own all that land? (From what I've read before, I don't really know.) I'd hardly consider someone who pays alot of money each month a "winner"...just someone who pays alot of money each month. 
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
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05-11-2005 21:08
From: Merwan Marker Does to me Hiro!  LIES! ALL LIES!!!! *sobs hysterically in the corner* Merwan confuses me!
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