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katykiwi Moonflower

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01-23-2005 15:40

From: Lordfly Digeridoo

Setting your lot to "no-build" wouldn't do anything...

All they'd have to do is create it on your neighbor's plot and drag it over.

This is a catastrophe.

LF

WOW! what if the land was also no access, can the prims be dragged onto it still? Forget grim reaper....it's a damn lock down against the prim griefer!

Kats Kothari

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01-23-2005 16:15

From: Robin Linden

I'm checking with the dev team to see what we can do about this. I'll have more information for you tomorrow.

Thank you Robin for your reply. It eases the situation a bit knowing that this has been acknowledged by LL and that it is being looked into.

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Aaron Levy

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01-23-2005 16:21

From: Shiryu Musashi

New attack right now, same gabriel solvang, this time on Seefeld, fps bogged down to 150

Hmm... so this guy did it yesterday... and he's still in game today? The "real time" police blotter hasn't been updated for 3 days... where are the Lindens?

Dammit, this pisses me off.

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Devlin Gallant

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01-23-2005 16:30

Kinda makes you wonder if whats listed in the blotter really happened, or is just posted to make the Lindens look good. Without names there is no way of telling.

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Jsecure Hanks

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01-23-2005 16:35

Every day it seems there's a new flaw, or bug, or something. That permissions thing I was so worried about got patched recently, only for someone to report the next day that a more serious permissions flaw still exists...

Now a serious flaw exists allowing griefers to strip people's land bare... I hardly go in game anymore, I'm just fed up

Aaron Levy

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01-23-2005 17:55

From: Kats Kothari

Thank you Robin for your reply. It eases the situation a bit knowing that this has been acknowledged by LL and that it is being looked into.

It doesn't ease the situation at all knowing now that the SAME PERSON did it again today.

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01-23-2005 17:57

One day this may all come to pass for Linden Labs, but these days today are not easy ones...

Kats Kothari

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01-23-2005 20:03

From: Aaron Levy

It doesn't ease the situation at all knowing now that the SAME PERSON did it again today.

It eases the situation a bit for some of us, since we would rather get some feedback from LL than to have reached 20 pages and not have any Linden post.

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Martin Magpie

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01-23-2005 20:09

From: Aaron Levy

The sim Grizedale was attacked moments ago with the latest griefing technique of filling up the sim with objects, which causes it to start returning objets.

But it doesn't return the griefer's objects, it only starts returning all the legit objects in the sim to their owners, leaving the griefer's shit in place.

This is a bug, a loophole, an oversight -- whatever... it needs to be addressed immediately by the Lindens.

The most recently created objects in a sim should be the ones returned to their owners. This way the griefer's attack objects will be returned to them, and the regular users, the legitimate user of the sim will not be affected.

Most definatly needs to be taken care.

M

Aaron Levy

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01-23-2005 20:18

From: Kats Kothari

It eases the situation a bit for some of us, since we would rather get some feedback from LL than to have reached 20 pages and not have any Linden post.

True true...

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Moleculor Satyr

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01-23-2005 20:27

From: blaze Spinnaker

What the hell am I on? Oh, let's see:

Here are some brilliant replies: (names removed)

Blaze? If the object-return bug didn't exist, this problem wouldn't exist.

That said, yes, there's a significant virus threat in SL. No, limiting llRezObject is not the answer. Shut up about limiting LSL.

From: Kats Kothari

It eases the situation a bit for some of us, since we would rather get some feedback from LL than to have reached 20 pages and not have any Linden post.

However, since the same person did it again, they should have been banned already, at least temporarily.

They haven't been, which is a problem.

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Khamon Fate

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01-23-2005 20:33

i believe the second brilliant reply is mine. feel free to attach my name to anything i say any time. i always sign surveys as well and comment cards as well.

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Lynn Lippmann

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01-23-2005 20:58

From: Khamon Fate

i believe the second brilliant reply is mine. feel free to attach my name to anything i say any time. i always sign surveys as well and comment cards as well.

Can I have your autograph?

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Reitsuki Kojima

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01-24-2005 02:52

From: Moleculor Satyr

Blaze? If the object-return bug didn't exist, this problem wouldn't exist.

That said, yes, there's a significant virus threat in SL. No, limiting llRezObject is not the answer. Shut up about limiting LSL.

Not to mention he is so behind the times

The virus outbreak was about 10 months ago, with da fish.

Naeya Raine

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01-24-2005 05:46

I just stumbled across this thread (thank god) but the first thing that came to my mind is age. How old is this freak? Either an extremely pathetic adult with absolutely NO life and some serious social issues, or a pimple faced teenager with absolutely NO friends and no way to vent his/her sexual frustrations. Someone has to know what is troubling this fool. There is always one reject of society that feels the need to inflict his/her pain on everyone else.

I would think that there are many ways to ban someone, not just by credit card #. Ban his/her name, address, ip, phone number, whatever. Just Ban this person, maybe he/she will get a clue and prey on another game instead of SL. Wishful thinking, but hey, it could happen! Couldn't it? *shrugs*

Wall Street

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01-24-2005 05:59

From: Aaron Levy

This is a bug, a loophole, an oversight -- whatever... it needs to be addressed immediately by the Lindens.

The most recently created objects in a sim should be the ones returned to their owners. This way the

Ah, so when this affected other people, you merely agreed that it was a nuisance and needed to be fixed at some point. Now that it affects YOU, it needs to be fixed IMMEDIATELY.

Of course.

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Siobhan Taylor

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01-24-2005 06:14

From: Wall Street

Ah, so when this affected other people, you merely agreed that it was a nuisance and needed to be fixed at some point. Now that it affects YOU, it needs to be fixed IMMEDIATELY.

Of course.

That is the way things are done in this forum, Wall.

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Moleculor Satyr

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01-24-2005 07:44

From: Reitsuki Kojima

Not to mention he is so behind the times

The virus outbreak was about 10 months ago, with da fish.

Ehhh... The fish were small fry compared to what's possible. Trust me.

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Reitsuki Kojima

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01-24-2005 07:48

From: Moleculor Satyr

Ehhh... The fish were small fry compared to what's possible. Trust me.

Oh, I know. First time I saw the fish my thought was "That's it? Pfffft." I assume people are a little scared of the possible RL legal problems behind a more potent outbreak, though.

Lance LeFay

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01-24-2005 07:59

Anyone remember when someone got a super reproductive fish linked to a linden account, back when prims cost 10L?

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Hank Ramos

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01-24-2005 08:05

From: Moleculor Satyr

Ehhh... The fish were small fry compared to what's possible. Trust me.

Yum! Fried fish!

Robin Linden

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01-24-2005 16:44

We've got one of the developers assigned to this problem. He's going to take a look and see what we can do to in any or all of the following ways:

- give you the tools you need to make sure people can't drop junk on your land,
- or make it easier to clean up without losing your own objects,
- or fix any bugs that are allowing this type of griefing.

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Chip Midnight

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01-24-2005 16:48

Great news Robin

Thanks for letting us know.

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Ursula Madison

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01-24-2005 17:18

That's great, Robin... but has the perpetrator been burned at the stake yet?

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StoneSelf Karuna

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01-24-2005 20:56

From: Robin Linden

We've got one of the developers assigned to this problem. He's going to take a look and see what we can do to in any or all of the following ways:

- give you the tools you need to make sure people can't drop junk on your land,
- or make it easier to clean up without losing your own objects,
- or fix any bugs that are allowing this type of griefing.

i suggest making object return lifo not fifo

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New Griefing Technique Needs to Be Addressed IMMEDIATELY
katykiwi Moonflower Esquirette Join date: 5 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,489	01-23-2005 15:40 From: Lordfly Digeridoo Setting your lot to "no-build" wouldn't do anything... All they'd have to do is create it on your neighbor's plot and drag it over. This is a catastrophe. LF WOW! what if the land was also no access, can the prims be dragged onto it still? Forget grim reaper....it's a damn lock down against the prim griefer!
Kats Kothari Disturbingly Cute Join date: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 556	01-23-2005 16:15 From: Robin Linden I'm checking with the dev team to see what we can do about this. I'll have more information for you tomorrow. Thank you Robin for your reply. It eases the situation a bit knowing that this has been acknowledged by LL and that it is being looked into. _____________________ Maker of many kawaii items: Dolls, huggable plushies, and purses with cute critters. Visit Kats' Kreatures for a better look and feel free to explore! =^_^= Kats' Kreatures Gualala (140,9) "The cat is cryptic, and close to strange things which men cannot see..." - H.P. Lovecraft
Aaron Levy Medicated Lately? Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,147	01-23-2005 16:21 From: Shiryu Musashi New attack right now, same gabriel solvang, this time on Seefeld, fps bogged down to 150 Hmm... so this guy did it yesterday... and he's still in game today? The "real time" police blotter hasn't been updated for 3 days... where are the Lindens? Dammit, this pisses me off. _____________________ Rezzations.com Home of the Trivia Stadium
Devlin Gallant Thought Police Join date: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 5,948	01-23-2005 16:30 Kinda makes you wonder if whats listed in the blotter really happened, or is just posted to make the Lindens look good. Without names there is no way of telling. _____________________ I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.
Jsecure Hanks Capitalist Join date: 9 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,451	01-23-2005 16:35 Every day it seems there's a new flaw, or bug, or something. That permissions thing I was so worried about got patched recently, only for someone to report the next day that a more serious permissions flaw still exists... Now a serious flaw exists allowing griefers to strip people's land bare... I hardly go in game anymore, I'm just fed up
Aaron Levy Medicated Lately? Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,147	01-23-2005 17:55 From: Kats Kothari Thank you Robin for your reply. It eases the situation a bit knowing that this has been acknowledged by LL and that it is being looked into. It doesn't ease the situation at all knowing now that the SAME PERSON did it again today. _____________________ Rezzations.com Home of the Trivia Stadium
Jsecure Hanks Capitalist Join date: 9 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,451	01-23-2005 17:57 One day this may all come to pass for Linden Labs, but these days today are not easy ones...
Kats Kothari Disturbingly Cute Join date: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 556	01-23-2005 20:03 From: Aaron Levy It doesn't ease the situation at all knowing now that the SAME PERSON did it again today. It eases the situation a bit for some of us, since we would rather get some feedback from LL than to have reached 20 pages and not have any Linden post. _____________________ Maker of many kawaii items: Dolls, huggable plushies, and purses with cute critters. Visit Kats' Kreatures for a better look and feel free to explore! =^_^= Kats' Kreatures Gualala (140,9) "The cat is cryptic, and close to strange things which men cannot see..." - H.P. Lovecraft
Martin Magpie Catherine Cotton Join date: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,826	01-23-2005 20:09 From: Aaron Levy The sim Grizedale was attacked moments ago with the latest griefing technique of filling up the sim with objects, which causes it to start returning objets. But it doesn't return the griefer's objects, it only starts returning all the legit objects in the sim to their owners, leaving the griefer's shit in place. This is a bug, a loophole, an oversight -- whatever... it needs to be addressed immediately by the Lindens. The most recently created objects in a sim should be the ones returned to their owners. This way the griefer's attack objects will be returned to them, and the regular users, the legitimate user of the sim will not be affected. Most definatly needs to be taken care. M
Aaron Levy Medicated Lately? Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,147	01-23-2005 20:18 From: Kats Kothari It eases the situation a bit for some of us, since we would rather get some feedback from LL than to have reached 20 pages and not have any Linden post. True true... _____________________ Rezzations.com Home of the Trivia Stadium
Moleculor Satyr Fireflies! Join date: 5 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,650	01-23-2005 20:27 From: blaze Spinnaker What the hell am I on? Oh, let's see: Here are some brilliant replies: (names removed) Blaze? If the object-return bug didn't exist, this problem wouldn't exist. That said, yes, there's a significant virus threat in SL. No, limiting llRezObject is not the answer. Shut up about limiting LSL. From: Kats Kothari It eases the situation a bit for some of us, since we would rather get some feedback from LL than to have reached 20 pages and not have any Linden post. However, since the same person did it again, they should have been banned already, at least temporarily. They haven't been, which is a problem. _____________________ </sarcasm>
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	01-23-2005 20:33 i believe the second brilliant reply is mine. feel free to attach my name to anything i say any time. i always sign surveys as well and comment cards as well. _____________________ Visit the Fate Gardens Website @ fategardens.net
Lynn Lippmann Toe Jammer Join date: 12 Jun 2003 Posts: 793	01-23-2005 20:58 From: Khamon Fate i believe the second brilliant reply is mine. feel free to attach my name to anything i say any time. i always sign surveys as well and comment cards as well. Can I have your autograph? _____________________ They give us new smilies but what about the TOES? Toe the line Linden's! Toes for the Toeless!
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	01-24-2005 02:52 From: Moleculor Satyr Blaze? If the object-return bug didn't exist, this problem wouldn't exist. That said, yes, there's a significant virus threat in SL. No, limiting llRezObject is not the answer. Shut up about limiting LSL. Not to mention he is so behind the times The virus outbreak was about 10 months ago, with da fish.
Naeya Raine Registered User Join date: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 25	01-24-2005 05:46 I just stumbled across this thread (thank god) but the first thing that came to my mind is age. How old is this freak? Either an extremely pathetic adult with absolutely NO life and some serious social issues, or a pimple faced teenager with absolutely NO friends and no way to vent his/her sexual frustrations. Someone has to know what is troubling this fool. There is always one reject of society that feels the need to inflict his/her pain on everyone else. I would think that there are many ways to ban someone, not just by credit card #. Ban his/her name, address, ip, phone number, whatever. Just Ban this person, maybe he/she will get a clue and prey on another game instead of SL. Wishful thinking, but hey, it could happen! Couldn't it? shrugs
Wall Street Mr. Warm Fuzzy Join date: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 312	01-24-2005 05:59 From: Aaron Levy This is a bug, a loophole, an oversight -- whatever... it needs to be addressed immediately by the Lindens. The most recently created objects in a sim should be the ones returned to their owners. This way the Ah, so when this affected other people, you merely agreed that it was a nuisance and needed to be fixed at some point. Now that it affects YOU, it needs to be fixed IMMEDIATELY. Of course. _____________________ Save the World... Kill Yourself. Long Live Good King Phillip I Rest in Peace Grimmy Moonflower Rest in Peace Shepp Proudfoot
Siobhan Taylor Nemesis Join date: 13 Aug 2003 Posts: 5,476	01-24-2005 06:14 From: Wall Street Ah, so when this affected other people, you merely agreed that it was a nuisance and needed to be fixed at some point. Now that it affects YOU, it needs to be fixed IMMEDIATELY. Of course. That is the way things are done in this forum, Wall. _____________________ http://siobhantaylor.wordpress.com/
Moleculor Satyr Fireflies! Join date: 5 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,650	01-24-2005 07:44 From: Reitsuki Kojima Not to mention he is so behind the times The virus outbreak was about 10 months ago, with da fish. Ehhh... The fish were small fry compared to what's possible. Trust me. _____________________ </sarcasm>
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	01-24-2005 07:48 From: Moleculor Satyr Ehhh... The fish were small fry compared to what's possible. Trust me. Oh, I know. First time I saw the fish my thought was "That's it? Pfffft." I assume people are a little scared of the possible RL legal problems behind a more potent outbreak, though.
Lance LeFay is a Thug Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 1,488	01-24-2005 07:59 Anyone remember when someone got a super reproductive fish linked to a linden account, back when prims cost 10L? _____________________ "Hoochie Hair is high on my list" - Andrew Linden "Adorable is 'they pay me to say you are cute'" -Barnesworth Anubis
Hank Ramos Lifetime Scripter Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,328	01-24-2005 08:05 From: Moleculor Satyr Ehhh... The fish were small fry compared to what's possible. Trust me. Yum! Fried fish!
Robin Linden Linden Lifer Join date: 25 Nov 2002 Posts: 1,224	01-24-2005 16:44 We've got one of the developers assigned to this problem. He's going to take a look and see what we can do to in any or all of the following ways: - give you the tools you need to make sure people can't drop junk on your land, - or make it easier to clean up without losing your own objects, - or fix any bugs that are allowing this type of griefing. _____________________
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	01-24-2005 16:48 Great news Robin Thanks for letting us know. _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Ursula Madison Chewbacca is my co-pilot Join date: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 713	01-24-2005 17:18 That's great, Robin... but has the perpetrator been burned at the stake yet? _____________________ "Huh... did everything just taste purple for a second?" -- Philip J. Fry
StoneSelf Karuna His Grace Join date: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,955	01-24-2005 20:56 From: Robin Linden We've got one of the developers assigned to this problem. He's going to take a look and see what we can do to in any or all of the following ways: - give you the tools you need to make sure people can't drop junk on your land, - or make it easier to clean up without losing your own objects, - or fix any bugs that are allowing this type of griefing. i suggest making object return lifo not fifo _____________________ AIDS IS NOT OVER. people are still getting aids. people are still living with aids. people are still dying from aids. please help me raise money for hiv/aids services and research. you can help by making a donation here: http://www.aidslifecycle.org/1409 .

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