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Alexander Appleby
Junior Member
Join date: 5 Aug 2003
Posts: 10
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10-24-2003 16:04
I am not new to secondlife, been here for a few months, and I am trying to get my friends to join. Problem is, neither of them have credit cards yet, and their parents think that it would be a waste of money to sign up. They cant see wether it is good or not without entering their parents credit card number and they wont do it without knowing how good it is, and it just goes round and round...
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Darwin Appleby
I Was Beaten With Satan
Join date: 14 Mar 2003
Posts: 2,779
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10-24-2003 16:36
Parents credit card? How old are they?
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Derek Jones
SL's Second Oldest Monkey
Join date: 18 Mar 2003
Posts: 668
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10-24-2003 16:41
I see two possibilities here:
1) Your friends are minors and you just exposed them hehe 2) They're not minors but can't get a credit card. They ask for their parents to use their cards and they pay them back. It's probably number 1 because there's no reason parents would feel it was a "waste of money" because they probably won't pay for it themselves because they will pay it back. Hehe you better hope lindens don't read this ![]() _____________________
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Relee Baysklef
Irresistable Squirrel
Join date: 18 Sep 2003
Posts: 360
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10-24-2003 20:39
I'm not a minor, I'm 22, but I don't have a credit card.
![]() The reason thier parents might be unwilling to use the credit cards is because of limits. They can only use a certain amount of money from the card, and they're too cheap or concerned about financial matters to spare $15 of thier limit to thier children. |
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Haney Linden
Senior Member
Join date: 3 Oct 2002
Posts: 990
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10-24-2003 21:45
Just to be clear, we don't charge the credit card during the trial, and in order to subscribe and be charged, you have to actively subscribe. You don't have to cancel a trial to avoid a charge. If you do nothing after a launching trial, there is no charge.
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
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10-25-2003 07:28
In this case I suspect Alex's friends are indeed minors. ThoAlex has never admitted to being a minor in my presence, his behavior in the past has demonstrated that he is.
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Hikaru Yamamoto
Oldbie
Join date: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 895
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10-25-2003 07:58
I use a bank card
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Darwin Appleby
I Was Beaten With Satan
Join date: 14 Mar 2003
Posts: 2,779
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10-25-2003 09:26
Originally posted by Devlin Gallant In this case I suspect Alex's friends are indeed minors. ThoAlex has never admitted to being a minor in my presence, his behavior in the past has demonstrated that he is. That was my reason for thinking this. No offense Relee, I know you don't have a credit card. It's just that Alex, while he has never told me directly, has certainly given me ample reason to believe he is. _____________________
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Relee Baysklef
Irresistable Squirrel
Join date: 18 Sep 2003
Posts: 360
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10-25-2003 10:50
Well it does happen. I've had my netsex partners come out and tell me that they're 14 enough times to be suspiscious. 14 year old boys are so horny and creative.
![]() Even a friend of mine who is 19 told me that they secretly went into adult net areas as young as 12. I really think that the age of majority should be lowered to 14, as well as the age of consent. Sure they're not fully mature, but they're going to do it anyway. |
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Ironchef Cook
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Join date: 23 Jun 2003
Posts: 574
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10-25-2003 15:55
I really think that the age of majority should be lowered to 14, as well as the age of consent. Sure they're not fully mature, but they're going to do it anyway. Hell no. In this case I suspect Alex's friends are indeed minors. ThoAlex has never admitted to being a minor in my presence, his behavior in the past has demonstrated that he is. This is why. |
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Teeny Leviathan
Never started World War 3
Join date: 20 May 2003
Posts: 2,716
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10-25-2003 17:40
I read between the lines and determined (this is just MY opinion):
Credit card companies send out applications to practically any adult who has ever handled a penny. I know unemployed people who haven't worked for years who get them. Applications sent to kids are rare. The mere fact that the final decision as to whether Alexander's friends can use their parent's credit card is very telling. If they weren't minors, they could get their own cards. Mommy and Daddy wouldn't have to approve. As for whether its right or wrong, its the parent's perogative. If they say no, just deal with it. Good parents don't cave in every time the kids cry "gimmie". If they EVER lower the age of majority to 14, that would make 14 year olds elligible for all sorts of cool stuff, like the draft. Ask yourselves if you REALLY want Beavis and Butthead in combat with M16s. ![]() |
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Dionysus Starseeker
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 31 Dec 1969
Posts: 764
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10-25-2003 17:43
I got credit card applications when I was 11...
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Misnomer Jones
3 is the magic number
Join date: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1,800
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10-25-2003 17:55
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Cori Sunshine
Registered User
Join date: 16 Jun 2003
Posts: 42
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10-25-2003 18:32
Originally posted by Relee Baysklef I really think that the age of majority should be lowered to 14, as well as the age of consent. Sure they're not fully mature, but they're going to do it anyway. I disagree wholeheartedly... there are many games out there for children, this is an adult game, it says so when you sign up for the game. I for one don't want to have to babysit children when I'm playing a game. I come to SL to relax and enjoy myself...just my .02 cents. |
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Snoopy Pico
Your Best Friend
Join date: 5 Feb 2003
Posts: 62
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10-25-2003 19:26
I can prove Alex is a minor.. .... That is if Secondlife Logs IM chats... and if it does it would also have to keap it in the Secondlife folder after you upgrade to a newer v. i could prove he is. I asked his age and he told me "12".
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Hikaru Yamamoto
Oldbie
Join date: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 895
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10-25-2003 21:52
Originally posted by Snoopy Pico I can prove Alex is a minor.. .... That is if Secondlife Logs IM chats... and if it does it would also have to keap it in the Secondlife folder after you upgrade to a newer v. i could prove he is. I asked his age and he told me "12". 12!!!!??? OMG WTF LOL!!!!!!!!1!!!1111!!!!! btw if you don't get this go here /120/75/4995/1.html |
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Garoad Kuroda
Prophet of Muppetry
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
Posts: 2,989
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10-25-2003 22:09
ROFL calm down Hikaru
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David Cartier
Registered User
Join date: 8 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,018
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10-25-2003 22:11
I can't imagine anyone but a sexual predator wanting to lower the age of consent to fourteen. The plumbing may work down there perfectly well at fourteen but the wiring upstairs is all screwed up.
Originally posted by Teeny Leviathan I read between the lines and determined (this is just MY opinion): Credit card companies send out applications to practically any adult who has ever handled a penny. I know unemployed people who haven't worked for years who get them. Applications sent to kids are rare. The mere fact that the final decision as to whether Alexander's friends can use their parent's credit card is very telling. If they weren't minors, they could get their own cards. Mommy and Daddy wouldn't have to approve. As for whether its right or wrong, its the parent's perogative. If they say no, just deal with it. Good parents don't cave in every time the kids cry "gimmie". If they EVER lower the age of majority to 14, that would make 14 year olds elligible for all sorts of cool stuff, like the draft. Ask yourselves if you REALLY want Beavis and Butthead in combat with M16s. |
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Relee Baysklef
Irresistable Squirrel
Join date: 18 Sep 2003
Posts: 360
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10-26-2003 07:00
Geez. I'm not a sexual predator. I've never even had sex before. But I know people who would like to have sex with people that young, and I know a lot of kids that age who do the nasty.
I've never recieved a Credit Card application in the mail, or a whole credit card. Interesting tidbit, untill recently it was law in Canada that if you get a credit card by mail, you can use it without paying for it. |
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Ironchef Cook
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Join date: 23 Jun 2003
Posts: 574
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10-26-2003 07:12
But I know people who would like to have sex with people that young, and I know a lot of kids that age who do the nasty. *busts out the popcorn and awaits the reaction on this one* |
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David Cartier
Registered User
Join date: 8 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,018
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10-26-2003 08:43
Well I was more thinking of a creepy old guy with a hard drive of disgusting pics and a krusty keyboard, but you get the idea. I'm fairly certain that Canada mostly has much stricter interpretations of what is kiddie porn than we do here in the US but in most cases a lower age of consent. I think seventeen, like the drinking age used to be up there is probably a good compromise, as most eighteen year olds are for the most part adult and most sixteen year olds are definitely not.
Originally posted by Relee Baysklef Geez. I'm not a sexual predator. I've never even had sex before. But I know people who would like to have sex with people that young, and I know a lot of kids that age who do the nasty. I've never recieved a Credit Card application in the mail, or a whole credit card. Interesting tidbit, untill recently it was law in Canada that if you get a credit card by mail, you can use it without paying for it. |
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Darwin Appleby
I Was Beaten With Satan
Join date: 14 Mar 2003
Posts: 2,779
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10-26-2003 08:59
I always say, and I still do, that kiddie porn should be anything under 21. If your allowed to get drunk, you should be allowed to do other stupid things, too.
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Relee Baysklef
Irresistable Squirrel
Join date: 18 Sep 2003
Posts: 360
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10-26-2003 17:25
Actually in Canada any picture of a minor naked is illegal. My law teacher was regailing the story of how he got in trouble for having pictures of his kids in the bathtub in his albums.
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Snoopy Pico
Your Best Friend
Join date: 5 Feb 2003
Posts: 62
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10-27-2003 13:22
DEREK THIS IS RILLY QUIET FUNY.111!!!111111!!1!!1 WTF I THINK UR MAKNG FUN OF MA THOUGH.111!11!111 WTF LOL LOL
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Dave Zeeman
Master Procrastinator
Join date: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 1,025
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10-27-2003 13:47
Originally posted by Darwin Appleby I always say, and I still do, that kiddie porn should be anything under 21. If your allowed to get drunk, you should be allowed to do other stupid things, too. Unfortunately, there are people who are mature enough at 18-21 years old who have a problem with never "getting any" and thus hormonal discharges cause us to seek out, by any means, photographical representations of people of the opposite sex and at the same age. *cough* but that's not me I'm talking about. From what I've seen in kids these days compared to what childhood was like not too many years ago for me, the sexual revolution is strangely and sickeningly shooting for a lower and lower age. Infact, this entire conversation could go all the way back to the "mental age vs. physical age" discussion we had a long time ago and right there would be my opinion. 21 mental age should be the line for whatever it is that needs a line. And yes, 21 mental age would be achievable by an 18 year old, if not a 16 year old. However, this could all go down to schools not being progressive enough with intelligent minds, job discrimination based on mental vs. physical age, blah blah blah the whole thing goes grey in the end and I figure it's time to just shut up and get over it ![]() _____________________
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