Neg rated by a noob while not even online

In regards to Michi Lumin's post:

Perhaps a sort of "rating decay" is in order? Where ratings you receive would disappear after about a month or so. This would solve problem 1) The perma-negative problem and problem 2) Rating Mining

This way SL would require you to not only achieve, but also maintain your achievement.

Hey Liam. That was me. I dont know what happened with that. I did pay you $50 because I liked your build in Lusk, but I didnt mean to rate you negatively. I would like to say it was a bug, but there is a chance I just clicked the wrong rating? I went to check and sure enough it showed I had rated your building negatively. I changed the rating to positive. That was a confusing one, sorry about that. Keep up the good building.

I am taking this out of context, but that is a scary thought. The best thing I like about SL is I am not mandated to do anything. I can do as much or as little as I like without penalty. Dont start the Lindens thinking of ways to challenge us.

How about charging $1 for a postive rating and $10 for a negative... that will make people need to REALLY not like something before they rate it!

JM

This would be great - even for positive ratings.
That way everyone has a greater chance to be high in the ratings post.

Well rather than a gradual decay (which is unctontrolled).. how about something like every 50 positive ratings you get total (or mabye 20 in any one category) would 'chip' away one negative point. This way if you reform your ways and stop being abusive or unseemly or whatever, you can 'recover' your reputation, and your past 'sins' are forgiven by your current good deeds.

Obvoiusly the actual rate and technicalities can be expanded or changed but i think that would be a decent way to go about the problem. Another one might be to forget the + and - columns and instead center on just the TOTAL number, and mabye shade or color that number based on the actual ratio's of good to bad ratings... aka a flawless 100 would be green, 110 + with 10- would be a ittle more orangish, and a huge pile of negatives would result in a red number.

That would mean like ONE negative point would be just that... one point less, it wouldn change color of the number so drastically as to be immediately noticable... only after a series of a few negative ratings would it really become apparant that someone was really getting out of line.

anyone else have any ideas?

Ratings should not change. They should not decay. There are already a number of posts about this somewhere. If I rate you, my rating should not wear off. If I want it to change, I have that option.

Ratings should not flucuate the way they do. You can go on vacation for a week and come back to find you owe money because your bonus dropped because your rating score has changed. If I am a level 5 froklog in eq and I dont play for a week, when I go back, I am still a level 5.

This is a frustrating aspect of the game, I understand what is trying to be done, but I believe the possible frustration factor will over shadow the more pleasant aspects of SL.

I like Loki's idea of making a neg rating more expensive. It should cost more. A neg rate is damaging and should not be an easy thing to do. This would cut back on the use of it as a griefing tool.

imho -

fen-

Assuming the ratings remain static, I have noticed something abit weird, pretaining to the 'rated others' sorta 'fourth' category on somoene's profile.

What the heck is it supposed to represent? it seems to work abit like a 'total' but a lossy total... in that if you give someone a -1 rating, they also seem to get a -1 'given to others'... if you remove that -1 rating, it dissapears, but they still have a -1 rating on 'given to others'... so even if you like loki mentioned, make a mistake and click the wrong box when yer rating someone, you can still do 'permanent' marks against them completely unintnetionally.

I don't know if thats a bug or what, but i've seen it happen first hand and its pretty disheartening cause now they'll walk around forever with a -1 they definately don't deserve :/

Well, I also kind of like the $10 negative and $1 positive thing.

The nature of negatives and positives are just different.

Right now, if someone disagrees on your political party, they can give you a -1. For whatever. For Building, if they so choose.

Same thing, they can (and do!) give you a +1 +1 +1 for saying "hi" sometimes.

Both of these are off.


For one, I would certainly have NO PROBLEM spending $10 on someone who was really bugging me to give them a mark.

I'd also have no problem spending $20 on 20 people who -really- helped me.

Heck, maybe both should cost $10 and people will take them more seriously, overall.

But right now, it's frivolous. You can take a chip out of someone because you're having a bad day. Or, you can fly by, and pos-rate them just to guilt them into pos-rating you back. (I'm sure there are people who 'farm' for +'s like this.)

(On the other hand, it seems there may be one or two unscrupulous folks who just try to neg rate whoever and whatever they can.)

There's already economy attached to this. People gain or lose money based on their ratings. Shouldn't the rater have some sort of economic stake in altering someone else's economic station?

I dont know. The cost makes sense to me.

Sounds like a bug to me, if not, I agree, it should not be that way. You may want to file a bug report.


fen-

I didn't realize those numbers with the minus signs after the positive numbers on my profile where neg ratings. (I can be quite dense sometimes). But, when i saw the number of neg ratings I had, I was horrified! I humbly apologize to anybody I may have offended in the past. It has never been my intention to hurt ANYBODY in this game. I only know of where 1 neg post came from (the poor noob I imbedded in the ground upon landing). No idea where the others came from. Sniff.

This is exactly what has happened to me. I just returned from a weeks vacation to find my rating bonus cut in half, I paid almost 4k in tax, AND I was negatively rated by someone I have no idea who.

Oh well.....SL......love it, or leave it.


-TK

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Are these characters to chicken to rate me in the face? Ray, Pussie, step forward and give me a reason for your negative ratings.

This stupidity has to stop. If you have no reason to rate someone negatively, then don't do so. If you do have a reason, have the decency to express them.

Those seemingly random ratings are most likely done by someone's second, fake, or mule accounts. Accounts set up with the sole purpose of annoying others.

Obviously, I have never met either, and I'm not a model, my avatar is average at best, so what's wrong with my appearance? My behavior can be questionable at times, but mosttimes only when triggered. My buildings? Someone doesn't like conventional, reallifelike structures? If Ray and Pussie have an agenda to go around and pass out negative ratings at random, it'll bite them youknowwhere. Chickens.

it would be nice if I had a way to see WHO I have given negative ratings too. Because I sure as heck dont remember,

I received the IM e-mail timed around midnight that Ray Gardener had given me a negative rating, and the message he added was "Cyborerrs"

I don't have his CC either.

EXACTLY!

I think if you are allowed to rate someones build, the rating you have an option to complete is BUILD. Not behavior or appearance. I also think if you are going to rate neg, it should force you to type a comment.

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Totaly agree! Seconded.

I was under the impression that ratings, whether negative or positive were removed, as calling cards are, if a person leaves SL, but apparently that is not the case from what I've been told by others and witnessed myself. I know I got a couple of negative building ratings my very first day or so in SL by people who are no longer with us and I would love it if those ratings at least disappeared since they werent very fair to rate me on my building then.

Edit: Issue resolved. Apparently the person's little brother may have been tinkering with his account. :|

Ray Gardner rated me negatively in all 3 categories last night. I was not even on line when he did so. I have never met him yet he has tarnished my record. Up until now only one other person has negged me. I have never negative rated anyone and I will not use this silly tool to get even. It's a ridiculous 'feature' in SL and unfortunate it will cost me bonus points.

Myself and Pituca Chang both got rated neg in all 3 by Ray Gardner and Pussie Strutt while we were offline.

Yes we all know my builds are ugly?

Anyway, both are banned from any land we own and I did track both down and they recieved neg ratings from myself and a couple of friends.

Check these 2 out, neither are newbies, they know what they are doing.

On reading this I'm inclined to agree - I live a half a mouseclick from your property and wasn't hit yet people several sims away had the same experience.

That doesn't sound like a mistake or someone playing with an account. Sounds more like someone with forethought of malice.

Siggy.

Uhm... does this fall in the 'great minds think alike' category? I was about to send you the whereabouts of those two, but then reconsidered and didn't want to start a lynch party

Good hunt! Tracking them down wasn't the easiest job

One thing it did result to is that I all the more value the positive ratings - thanks again for all the ratings last night at the party! Appreciate it.