Morris prim usage..

I am just wondering what others think about this. Everytime I finish a new sculpture I go and put it out in the sandboxes for a day or so. As long as I've known Starax he's done the same thing. I personally think it's nice to have something besides leftover cubes and litter there for people to look at, and plenty of people display their work in the sandboxes.

Around 2:30am (PDT) one morning I put my Christmas Deco display down in Morris... 30 minutes before deletion time. As soon as I tp out, I receive 3 negs from a girl in Morris with no reason stated, so I IM her asking why. "You're using all the building prims, go show off in the big sandboxes." I tell her it's about to be deleted anyway, and giving negs in all categories just because she doesn't like something someone does is abusing the rating system. Eventually she took her ratings back, and I kept her complaint in mind... I no longer put my big Christmas display in Morris. Admittedly it was quite prim heavy.

Tonight I'd placed a sculpture down in Morris. It was approx 200 prims. Later I find this same girl has placed a big black box over it so it couldn't be seen. I told her she's not the sandbox police so if she has a problem stop harrassing me and go talk to a Linden, along with a neg behavior rating.

Do these sculptures in Morris bother alot of you? If it is annoying I'd rather not continue doing it. This one girl is the only one who's ever complained to me about it, and judging from her profile and from talking to her, she seems a few bricks short of a load anyway, so I'm not so sure what to think.

Pfft.

Stormy, you've been nice to me and on top of this, you're recognized as a masterbuilder in SL, now bringing holiday cheer to avatars in SL through sandboxes -- and beyond.

I dislike premature actions like the ones you described, especially when they are done through a sort of "leap before you look" mentality and with a certain amount of what I would have to say, is ignorance. Communication is important, so it would have been nice if you were IMed politely but firmly beforehand with questions regarding the prim usage of your art.

One of the first things that came to mind, upon reading what you had to say, was the situation involving Lordfly Digeridoo and the zombies. Some folks blatantly accused him of being a dangerous griefer -- while any consistent resident of SL worth his/her/its salt would know that this is not the case, with his architecture and contributions to the community and soforth.

Similarly, it occurred to me that some things which would have been taken well with the cameradie of "community spirit" months ago... would now be more likely to be Abuse Reported. Nick Fairlight recently set off a dazzling fireworks show in Morris, but mused to me that he hoped we weren't reported for making noise or causing trouble.

I do not know what was really the case here -- emotional jealousy or plain stupidity -- but I would hope more people would ask questions and respect the rights of others in a public sandbox, especially such a talented artist as yourself who aims to enhance Second Life.

This is my say on the matter.

I think you can safely surmise you are dealing with an asshole, Stormy. One prolly best ignored.

First, I appreciate your artwork for what it is..

However, from a personal perspective... it does kinda tick me off when anyone - and I could care less who - leaves out mulltiple copies of their work in multiple sandboxes. One copy in Morris.. no big deal.

However, one copy in Morris, another in Cordova, a third in Goguen, one in Newcomb, one on the island sanddbox.. another in Numbaklla.... well, you get the idea.

If everyone did it, there would be no prims left to play with... and anyway... just how many display copies are necessary to be appreciated? I have been in multiple sandboxes and have heard copies of your work, tha tof Starax and Maxx being used as justification for others not to clean up after themselves... so there is always that issue also. With no artiste and no notecard to explain why the pieces were left there, there is no reason not to assume it IS accepted behavior by all.

OTOH, if you decide to leave one out, may I request that you rez it and then move it to a no build section of the sandbox? That way it doesn't interfere with those who ARE trying to do something in them.


Just my $.02L

right, because your 200 prims is really a lot in comparison with the other 4000 or so of complete *crap* that otherwise occupies Morris sandbox.

I'd just neg the person back, and tell them to get a life...err second life...err third maybe....ahh nevermind...just AR them for harrasment

she said you're using all the building prims? you made a 10,000-15,000 prim sculpture? didn't think so.

build a high prim hand flipping a high prim bird and tell her to sit and spin.

See, I like seeing things that are left behind. Doesn't bother me at all.

I've left copies of my stuff in Morris, Cordova, Island Sandbox, or Newcomb. Usually don't get any static about it, mostly good things. I wouldn't sweat it. Once some knobjob has negged you, they really can't do much else.

I can't believe that most people would like to see crap-textured prims and the predictable spinning cubes that you usually see. I'd rather see Starax's or Stormy's work, by far.

In short -- unless this person is *really* good at building, they should shut the hell up.

I don't know of anyone that uses over 5k prims at a sitting (ok, just a few) and that is a third of sim usage....so what's the big deal? That's right, nothing at all

Oh, and I've left 1,500+ prim structures in the sandboxes before and never got nailed for 'using too many'. Pfft...too many, bah! NEVER ENOUGH.

I thought, as a courtesy to other people, you were supposed to clean up your prims when you were done using a sandbox. If I use a sandbox, I always delete any of my creations (unless I can't find a stray prim or two).

That's too bad Stormy, I liked seeing what you and Starax have left around that pond. Nothing at all wrong with leaving your work on display, as long as it's for enjoyment (whether you like it or not) and not sale or harassment.

I agree I dont think you should be leaving your prims in any sandbox, even if your intentions are good... sounds like you are using the sanboxes as a form of advertisement...

Morris doesn't have the same prim limits as the other sand boxes. (The 10-15k or whatever they are..) Morris is about 1500-2000. At the time I went back and saw her big box covering my piece, I looked at available prims and there were just over 1000 left. This was at 3 1/2 hrs before sandbox deletion last night. From that I concluded she isn't having trouble building anything, and I don't think she's a builder at all. She's a control freak if anything.

You do great work! I saw one of your works in the Morris sandbox and loved it. I gave you three well-deserved positive ratings on it.

However, a few days later...



I did see the same sculptures for sale at your shop, which I ran into by chance.

So, yes, yo do great work, and no, objects that are available for sale elsewhere should not be in the sandbox, no matter how beautiful. We'd end up with a huge flea market

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The sandboxes should clear themselves more frequently. Solve a lot of problems..

One guy has taken up residence in a sandbox. He re-rezzes his 'house' every day automatically..

Personally when its a build like you or Starax does, I like to see them left out to be admired. The girl you are having a problem with needs to lighten up.

I agree, I do like her builds as well .. I was very impressed by the christmas stuff.

However rules and such need to be applied evenly, regardless of talent. If everyone did the same thing, we'd end up with pretty overloaded sandboxes.


Maybe there should be showcase sandboxes or something, kind of like a permanent burning life and your stuff just rotates depending on how many other people are showcasing their stuff.

The sandboxes as they are now are shared spaces and I think you have to tread extra lightly there, as you can easily interfere with other people's work..

.. lol I haven't noticed that one, but it sounds like he's trying to be funny, and I think it is unless he's been doing it for a few months now, then maybe he has something wrong with him.

I am standing in Morris now debating whether or not to put out the piece I did last night. Admittedly it's nice finally being able to do something people like, but on the other hand, if it bothers so many other people it's not so good.

A showcase sim would be nice. I could display stuff in Avalon but I hate using a bunch of prims on someone's land who is paying those high tier fees. I thought the public sandboxes were the less parasitic approach.

If you need space to display your work, why not contact people who have display spaces in SL? Why use up space in the sandboxes?
I don't go to the sandboxes to see displays of peoples work and I hate having to find space to do stuff when there is stuff all over the place - whether well done or not. It's not just a question of using up all the prims, space is a big issue too.

I don't know of these people. Who are they? Can I bring myself to asking someone if I can place high prim sculptures on their land? I don't know.

I think what I'm going to do is put my new piece out in one sandbox, and everytime I'll just alternate which sandbox I go to... It's not possible to please everyone all the time, not with anything short of disappearing into a corner, but since we all paid to play that wouldn't be very fair either. I do mind being a bother to so many people and enough of you dislike it that I will change what I'm doing, that much.

Are you listening to what everyone here is saying? or just the ones that think it's ok?

It IS okay, dammit!

there are tons of people who rent space to people.
try looking up space or galleries, etc. inworld with the find tab.
or artists, etc.

Plus you said you could display stuff in Avalon. Wouldn't that be the proper place?

Another disadvantage of putting your work in Morris, is that it really deserves to be showcased without all that other garbage around.

I would offer a spot on my land to showcase your work, but I am at the end of the world, and not too many people come this way

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I AM listening to everyone Sensual, else I wouldn't have started this thread to begin with. Obviously I started listening, even to the prim stalker who started after me ingame in the first place. It doesn't mean I'm going to completely go away just because some don't like it. It depends how many.

I'll see how that goes. Thanks for all the feedback.

Hugs...Welcome to wild wild world SL!
Giving negative rates in SL is hobby a lot of freaks...I always like to see your sculptures...they are awesome!