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Water Rogers
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12-09-2003 00:56
All I'm suggesting is from past experience and dealing with the new group deeding. I tested and tested myself with a script until i was sure it ran fine. THEN I deeded the object -- not thinking i had to test anymore afterwards, because naturally.. you'd deed the object last. I can totally see this being an accepted scenario. I do agree that they should pay back what was wronged. I, personally, have had only positive encounters with those people... so I will not be judgemental, and brand them negatively--unless their actions would cause me to do so. Ie. I IM them, and tell them that their objects are broke.. and they reply with "d0000d, wh4t R JOO t4lking b0u7!!11??11 U R on Ign0r3 n0W!!".

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Huns Valen
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12-09-2003 01:38
Linden needs to crack down on these damn griefers. There's a guy who used an in-game exploit to take ownership of a locked item I'd sold, and then distribute copies of same. And he's still in-world.

I can't imagine LL is so hard up for cash that they have to let people get away with HACKING. Chrissake, it's totally malicious behavior.
Eggy Lippmann
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12-09-2003 01:55
For what its worth, James Chaos was the one crashing sims on purpose, like it happened at garth and pituca's wedding.
He was banned for it but it seems his account is still very much alive. I know he is a minor but I dont have 100% solid evidence of his age so LL refuses to act upon it.
He told me this was his second account, and that his first one had been canceled because "his little cousin" went into the world with his old account and did some damage.
Of course if you ask a liaison, the "someone else was at the keyboard" excuse is a very old and tired one, but they're still reluctant to kick that guy out permanently :(
Hawk Statosky
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Join date: 11 Nov 2003
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12-09-2003 03:35
Hmm...
I must have spent too much time in-world - I recognise these names...

I agree with the sentiment that Ben's new, so he may not know better. Tolerance and education, perhaps.
James Chaos I've talked to, and he just struck me as very... young. Nothing wrong with that, IMO, all I ask is people behave as they would wish to be treated themselves, and I dunno if that always sinks in at a young age. :-/
And jacob I plain Do Not Like. He's the fellow who bounced me round the sandbox and triple-negged me when I behaviour rated him. *takes out LART and pats it lovingly*

Bah, humbug.

I don't want SL to need an arms race between the griefers and everybody else. That puts too much of a not-fun edge on things... :(

Meh. Wibble ends...
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Maxx Monde
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12-09-2003 04:56
I've had an encounter with James Chaos. I was building the first story of my place in Gray, and he had built a large polygonal-thing-in-the-sky as his abode. That's fine, each to his own design ethic. He then asked me to join his group or attach my house to his. Hardly practical, but I just indicated that I was new and trying to get into building, so no thanks.

Then I was talking to my neighbor, Millie, and he started to shoot projectile weapons, etc... I just saw this as harmless, as they weren't pushing me or anything. I couldn't die in Gray anyway, and my house was 10m away. It was more of a annoyance than anything.

We continued our conversation in my place, which I had to encase in glass panels to keep the projectiles out. I subsequently banned him from my land (giving me an excuse to experiment with the land permission feature) and kept on building.

He stopped eventually, then asked me if he could come in. I had already set a $100 L pass for a few hours on the land, mostly as an experiment - I figured if anyone really wanted to get in, then they'd pay.

To my surprise, he did pay the $100 L, and just came in a bit disappointed since I hadn't really fleshed out the build that much. I saw him a week or so later, and feeling bad about him paying the $100 L for the pass, I refunded him the money without him asking for it.

He just strikes me as someone who is pretty young, with all that it entails. For what it is worth, I asked him to stop firing, and he eventually complied. I don't condone scams or any behavior against the TOS, but I think he just needs to confine his fun to the appropriate areas.

Ramble, ramble....hehe.
Sapphire Bombay
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12-09-2003 05:06
I am of the same mindset when I meet an obviously underage player. If they show promise, behave themselves and seem like they might learn something - I don't complain. But, these guys just stepped over that line. Show them the door. Anyone who has spent any time in the sandbox sims know about these guys.
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Nick Fairlight
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I agree
12-09-2003 08:42
I agree with Sapphire, if they behave, I wouldn't care at all, but if they just start asking me for things, shooting me with push guns and replying back "just testing!", that's what ticks me off. So when you go to Cardova, remember to wear your anti-grief suit, your push-gun shield, and your anti-crying mask.

Oh yeah, and Sapphire, about that plane incedent, where I flew that huge aircraft into your expermiment, sorry(someone forgot to put llGetOwner() in their script hehe)
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Malachi Petunia
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12-09-2003 09:01
From: someone
Originally posted by Water Rogers
Not to throw a wrench in the monkey.... but do you think it *might* be slightly concievable that they didn't know that group owned objects didn't pay out... as an oversight? ...

I can accept that such might conceivably be true, but looking back to Eggy's first post, rezzing a rigged game in someone else's reputable casino does take a staggering amount of ignorance. I'm putting my money on willful intent to defraud. Anyone know the payoff odds for that? :)
Maxx Monde
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12-09-2003 09:10
100 PERCENT!!

That is, until you are caught and killed by the mob of defrauded users.

Hey Malachi, do I owe you 25 Lindenbucks? I think you paid me for some reason, and I have no idea why. It was when I was floating around in my shiny ball like some sentinel of chromed doom.
Garoad Kuroda
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12-09-2003 09:19
That was nice of you to refund the L$100 Maxx. Maybe next time make it $10000 so that doesn't happen, lol.

My only experience with this group was with jacob Chen (I think). He stopped by an apartment I had rented at the time, seemed a bit odd (maybe just slow to type) but didn't do anything bad. Anyway I think he liked some of the stuff I had laying around. :D He did fire a very strong "push" gun at me, but he asked me if he could first, since I had serious doubts that something like that would work at the time. (We were discussing it) hehe...it worked.:p

Anyway, isn't there a creator or something listed on these machines so you can indentify exactly which av placed them?
Eggy Lippmann
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12-09-2003 09:23
Creator was James Chaos I think. Owner was the group as previously pointed out.
Char Linden took a copy and handed it to Colin I think so he would take a look at the script.
Jack Digeridoo
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12-09-2003 09:25
Sapphire, minors aren't allowed in here because of the easy access to illegal copyrighted porn that is everywhere. NOT because they are annoying.
Camille Serpentine
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12-09-2003 09:44
From: someone
Originally posted by Jack Digeridoo
Sapphire, minors aren't allowed in here because of the easy access to illegal copyrighted porn that is everywhere. NOT because they are annoying.


Darn!
then again I know adults in RL who are more annoying than kids on SL.

Though I like the fact that kids are technically not allowed on SL. I feel more free to do things (not sure what, but....)
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Jack Digeridoo
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12-09-2003 10:28
I don't like that they are not legally allowed. I hope someday the porn goes and kids are welcomed to SL. They are some really talented kids out there who could learn a lot about scripting.
Julia Curie
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12-09-2003 10:42
Personally I can't be in favor of letting kids in. Heck there's some adults I wish would leave as well simply because they have the mindset of a child and it shows. Yes we all have our bad days, but some just seem to have those bad days 24/7.

As for LL restricting access to minors because of porn. So what, can easily get it on the internet. I'd like to think they wanted a more matured game than something where folks come in and go do "d00d. boring game this is lame it suxx0rs my left nut im going back to doom yo."

And I agree with a prior statement. As long as people behave and are nice who cares what age they are. Its a matter of getting along and having a good time all around.
Juro Kothari
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12-09-2003 10:47
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Originally posted by Jack Digeridoo
I don't like that they are not legally allowed. I hope someday the porn goes and kids are welcomed to SL. They are some really talented kids out there who could learn a lot about scripting.


No. Porn has to stay. While I, personally, can't say I'd like to have kids onboard, I am willing to open up to the idea, *as long as* the M areas (porn included) stays.

If I wanted to hang out with a bunch of kids in a sterile environment, I'd go to There.
Chip Midnight
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12-09-2003 11:27
Where the hell is all this porn? A bare breast is not pornographic. An artistic photo of the nude form is not pornographic. An object shaped like a phallus is not pronographic. In all my time in SL I have yet to see a single thing I would consider worthy of the label "porn."

In addition to banning juveniles, LL should also ban holier than thou moralists.
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Maxx Monde
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12-09-2003 11:29
Don't forget the mile-high porn billboards. *

*(Note - I'm a very bored person when at work, and the peurile idea of mile-high billboards of porn just make me laugh and laugh. Anything blown up to that size makes it ridiculous, porn or not. So, please don't be offended at my sillyness.)
Chip Midnight
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12-09-2003 11:40
I guess I missed those Maxx, hehe. For a long time there was a giant spinning cube on someone's land behind my house that had pictures of shapely women's behinds on it. I thought it was funny (albeit incredibly useless). It grew on me over time as a landmark and when trying to give directions to my house it would often be something like "go to the ass cube a take a left."
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Maxx Monde
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12-09-2003 12:37
That is pretty damn hilarious.

Thanks for the *LOL* in my cube, now I have to explain myself in RL.
Jack Digeridoo
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12-09-2003 12:39
From: someone
Originally posted by Chip Midnight

In addition to banning juveniles, LL should also ban holier than thou moralists.



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Eggy Lippmann
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12-09-2003 12:40
From: someone
Originally posted by Chip Midnight
Where the hell is all this porn? A bare breast is not pornographic. An artistic photo of the nude form is not pornographic. An object shaped like a phallus is not pronographic. In all my time in SL I have yet to see a single thing I would consider worthy of the label "porn."

In addition to banning juveniles, LL should also ban holier than thou moralists.

CHIP MIDNIGHT FOR GOVERNOR LINDEN! :D
Chip Midnight
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12-09-2003 14:47
LOL Eggy... somehow I can't imagine that being a good thing for SL :D
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Jellin Pico
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12-09-2003 17:05
Interesting how this thread went from a warning about crooked gambling to yet another discussion about what some people continually refer to, as porn.

Kinda silly.
Garoad Kuroda
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12-09-2003 17:51
From: someone
Originally posted by Jack Digeridoo
Sapphire, minors aren't allowed in here because of the easy access to illegal copyrighted porn that is everywhere. NOT because they are annoying.

HAHA

Yeah, because if they blocked people for being annoying, I'd be gone, along with half the forum population. roflmao...
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