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Otacon Falcone is a theif

Kris Ritter
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06-04-2004 07:22
From: someone
Behaviuor isn't relative, there is good and bad behaviour, if you insist it be relative to everyone, then I assume you to be an anarchist and you also don't believe that there are any absolute truths either.


Of course behaviour is relative. It's relative to the person doing the behaving (or not) and how they perceive their actions, and to their peers and how they perceive it.

This is especially true of a community where there are no hard and fast written rules on such things, and where there is no law enforcement as such.

Even with the Lindens - each incident is dealt with with differing degrees of severity - and sometimes action at all - by Lindens who hold different views about the behaviour in question.

Read these forums. They are crammed full of people saying 'this is wrong because...' followed by discussions about whether it was or wasn't appropriate behaviour. Amazingly, no matter how clear cut it would appear to any one of us or even the majority on rare occasions, there are always people who will offer an alternative point of view.

We're talking everything here from IP rights and object ownership to avatar sex. Everyone has an opinion about these, and peoples behaviour in relation to these. A lot of them are different. A lot of them are 180 degrees opposing. If everything was so cut and dried as you seem to think it was, there would be no discussions of this kind, because we'd all know exactly what was acceptable and what wasnt.

It's yours and your group's opinion that what transpired was wrong. Fine. Then you can exercise your right to behave how you see fit as a reaction to that. But whether your behaviour is 'good' or 'bad' under the circumstances is entirely subjective.
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Bob Bunderfeld
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06-04-2004 07:27
At this point, we must agree to disagree.

I won't debate an issue such as this, when I know neither of us will be changed by it.

Therefore, I appreciate the explaination of your opinion, and I fully agree to the fact that you have the right to this opinion, I just don't agree with it.



Thanks!
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Huns Valen
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06-04-2004 07:36
From: someone
Originally posted by Lash Xevious
and 'O': customer's always right. next time try alittle more courtesy, a little more humility. even if you know you're dealing with a belligerent idiot.
Customers act like shitheads because they think they can get away with it. The proper response is to tell them to suck a fart out of your asshole. I used to work in a call center, and I know from reading case histories that we terminated a number of accounts because people become OH SO BRAVE when they are talking over a phone or a keyboard instead of face to face.

I was even there when one of my teammates chewed out this big stupid loser for giving our techs grief. It was the best.
Emmiie Everett
Junior Member
Join date: 11 May 2004
Posts: 2
A word from Deaths Fiancee
06-04-2004 07:45
Just wanted to add... That Octagieousawhazit also harrased my baby couple days after even ended up passing thru the store where I was getting my dress fitted for the wedding thinking he was "INVIVIBLE" Reguardless of anything Death said ingame about any skin color crap he is an HONEST giving loveing person..... And Quite Frankly he wouldnt Lie about this... A person cannot be reprimanded for thier belifes only thier actions.. in this case.. Octavious's actions spoke louder than words... /shrug /soap box off

Emmiie Everett:confused:



PS: i spell worser than Death *lol*
Kris Ritter
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Re: A word from Deaths Fiancee
06-04-2004 08:24
From: someone
Originally posted by Emmiie Everett
Reguardless of anything Death said ingame about any skin color crap


Nice dismissal. I particularly like the colorful phrase 'any skin color crap' to define racism.
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Darwin Appleby
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06-04-2004 09:07
Look at the signature. Look at it long and hard. And then think about it.
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Touche.
James Miller
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Join date: 9 Jan 2003
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06-04-2004 09:07
From: someone
Otacon is well liked and I like him too. But his actions proved to me that he isn't the kind of person we would want in the Slate Group.


Yet a racist is?
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Bob Bunderfeld
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06-04-2004 09:38
James:

Death Grace isn't in any Slate group.




Thanks!
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James Miller
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06-04-2004 09:41
Well, you're still being quite friendly to him. Giving him money, defending him publically, etc.

You're just a friendly person, I guess. (Of course, I bet Otacon would disagree, but, he's a theif, so, his opinion is less important than the racist's, right?)
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Bob Bunderfeld
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06-04-2004 09:44
James:

Where have I said "nice things" about Death Grace? Where have I supported his "racist views"? Where did I state that Otacon's opinion mattered less then Death Grace's?

I gave Death Grace his money back, because at the time, Otacon had told me in-game that he would not. Therefore, as a member of Slate I refunded his money so the Slate groups would not be looked upon as condoning what Otacon had done.

If you are going to jump into a thread, you might want to start at the top and read them ALL before you emberass yourself any further.



Thanks!
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Kasandra Morgan
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Join date: 17 Mar 2004
Posts: 639
06-04-2004 11:51
From: someone
Let's save the "racism" remarks for a different rant, where they belong. This thread is focused on Otacon and his actions.


Hey! I didn't hijack this thread! Don't blame me! My topic was on topic. And like I said, what you want us to do? Reprimand who we are told to reprimand? Its settled. He is paid. Otacon lost his group. How is my tisk tisk gonna help? Do you see anyone telling you that you should not have booted him? No, so stop trying to justify it. Geez.

Although, you and Kris were about to debate absolute truth and I thought that was gonna get interesting. What you are failling to see that is absolute truth is unknowable, if we knew it then there would be no debate about right or wrong. Absolute truth can't be something as simple as "Killing is wrong." Because what if you are killing animals to eat or killing a murderer to protect your family?

Emmiie, fiancee? Your relationship has to be less than a week old because last week he was trying to get with Angel Coral. Less than one week and you are already picking out a wedding dress?
Death Grace
Member
Join date: 8 Apr 2004
Posts: 52
06-04-2004 17:25
holey god. this post was just to warn people. you guys have no lives thats why you have second lives. if any of you cared about anything and you werent so mtv generational you might just relizze that this thread was just to warn you people. you know what for now on im not going to warn you people. and kassandra dont be mad just cause your fat and ugly and no one could stand to date you cause your a moron you would understand. frankly i think it is very sad that a thread that was made to help you people has turned into another death grace smear campeign. ohwell i dont give a shit. none of you mean anything to me. and none of you would have the balls to say this to me in real life. so just go on with your second lives. burry your face agaisnt the monitor and eat another twinky. must suck to be you kassandra. sad so sad :( lets all give pitty to kassandra cause someone pointed out that she is a moron :( stupid young newbie death grace pointing out a pro ass kisser that she was retarded and has no bussiness in any theological group. poor poor kassandra :(. typical of the type of person she is to keep the shit sturring. expecially after i already apologized.
Masakazu Kojima
ケロ
Join date: 23 Apr 2004
Posts: 232
06-04-2004 17:47
From: someone
Originally posted by Death Grace
you guys have no lives thats why you have second lives.

lol
Kasandra Morgan
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Join date: 17 Mar 2004
Posts: 639
06-04-2004 19:56
Let's review what I said, then compare it to what others have said. Notice how I am the "fait, oogly, stoopid" one (sorry, I can't spell that badly even when I try). Must be that superior Aryan intellect that allows for such manipulation of the English language. It always kills me when people in SL berate you for playing SL. If I am a big fat stupid loser for playing SL what are you? Sigh...that must be that superior Aryan logic he was speaking of that my tiny little inferior brain just can't comprehend. He is right, he is clearly better than me in every way because of his skin tone. /cry

I wonder if he clutches this race thing like its a warm blanket because he fails as a human being: "Might be a complete loser in every way, but at least I am white..." Look at me doing all this speculating, I better go fry some chicken and listen to some rap.

Edit: This apology he keeps mentioning, he apologized that being part of an inferior race hurts my feelings...who could turn down an apology like that?!?!

Well I guess I have to apologize too, so we can be even. I mean he did apologize after all.

Death, I am sorry that you are a racist prick. Feel better?
Death Grace
Member
Join date: 8 Apr 2004
Posts: 52
06-04-2004 20:26
kassandra see thats your smoke screen since you pay attention and you take your posts and type them in word and check for typos then you post liek your an intelligent individual. your mentality is that of most of the ignorant mtv generation hippie children and you are blind. but trust me you will eventually see kassandra. just cause you care about how you type doesnt make you any more intelligent. yet this is the basis for the argument of inteligence. i supose next since i dont wear brand name clothing cause i dont beleive in capitalism im stupid? sorry if you didnt know einstein didnt write very well and he came up with the laws of physics we came to know an love. so kassandra bugger off i for one see past your smoke screen that you have made for yourself in this second life of yours. and in the real world you are nothing thats why its so important that people like you here :)
Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
06-04-2004 20:42
From: someone
Originally posted by James Miller
Well, you're still being quite friendly to him. Giving him money, defending him publically, etc.

You're just a friendly person, I guess. (Of course, I bet Otacon would disagree, but, he's a theif, so, his opinion is less important than the racist's, right?)


James, I have to agree with Bob. Just because Death is an idiot and a loser doesn't make it right to rip him off.
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Death Grace
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06-04-2004 20:47
well delvin thats great of you to beleive that being dishonest has nothing to do with a persons beleifs. hmm however i think a stupid person is one that beleives in an invisible being watching them and judgeing them (ie god). but hey if you wanna beleive in invisible beings thats your gig :)
Otacon Falcone
Member
Join date: 10 May 2004
Posts: 25
Re: A word from Deaths Fiancee
06-04-2004 20:49
From: someone
Originally posted by Emmiie Everett
Just wanted to add... That Octagieousawhazit also harrased my baby couple days after even ended up passing thru the store where I was getting my dress fitted for the wedding thinking he was "INVIVIBLE" Reguardless of anything Death said ingame about any skin color crap he is an HONEST giving loveing person..... And Quite Frankly he wouldnt Lie about this... A person cannot be reprimanded for thier belifes only thier actions.. in this case.. Octavious's actions spoke louder than words... /shrug /soap box off

Emmiie Everett:confused:



PS: i spell worser than Death *lol*


I was just reading through the post; And this made me laugh.
She said I was spying on them and was "INVISIBLE" Ah..:D
Death Grace
Member
Join date: 8 Apr 2004
Posts: 52
06-04-2004 20:51
what are you smileing about retard? you were the armor oyu have is transparent except for your name cause you didnt make the shell large enough. so why did it make you laugh retard?
Otacon Falcone
Member
Join date: 10 May 2004
Posts: 25
06-04-2004 20:53
LOL I'm 'smileing' about the fact that I wasnt there..
Death Grace
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06-04-2004 20:57
your full of lies fey will atest to the fact you were there. everyone should take notes to how much this person lies. you may hate me but my word is good and you can trust me in bussiness but this guy is full of lies.
Otacon Falcone
Member
Join date: 10 May 2004
Posts: 25
06-04-2004 20:59
Bleh. Im not even going to bother arguing with you. I'm going to bed -_- I'll be on tommorow afternoon probably. I dunno.
Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
06-04-2004 20:59
From: someone
Originally posted by Death Grace
well delvin thats great of you to beleive that being dishonest has nothing to do with a persons beleifs. hmm however i think a stupid person is one that beleives in an invisible being watching them and judgeing them (ie god). but hey if you wanna beleive in invisible beings thats your gig :)


Uhm, ooookay, Death. I don't see what your post has to do with what I said, but , yeah...okay. And, what makes you think I believe in God? Just because I have a cherub av? One doesn't neccesarily follow the other.
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Death Grace
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06-04-2004 21:03
most mtv generation hippie children are sheep and are part of the church i apologize if you dont beleive in god. i would have to give you credit enough for being that inteligent.
Kris Ritter
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Join date: 31 Oct 2003
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06-04-2004 21:05
I know people often say that you shouldn't form opinions about people you've never met by their forum postings, but sometimes it's hard not to, ya know?

:rolleyes:
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