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Grrr WTF happened to originality?!?!

Willow Zander
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01-06-2005 11:15
Flakey are you high o.O :p
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Jolene Jade
JOJO THE GREAT
Join date: 12 Aug 2003
Posts: 459
01-06-2005 11:15
Sometimes I barrow other peoples opinons...but I always put them back....

Willow button pusher Zanders you crack me up
Mina Firefly
Tattooist
Join date: 11 Aug 2004
Posts: 341
01-06-2005 11:15
Could be worse...i'd rather have people copying my stuff then people copying my avie.
(wich happend once to me , till i changed my avie AGAIN)
Willow Zander
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Join date: 22 May 2004
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01-06-2005 11:16
LOL what buttom am I pressing Jojo... I really wanna jam my finger on the button that's shaped like a certain person's eye ;)
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Jolene Jade
JOJO THE GREAT
Join date: 12 Aug 2003
Posts: 459
01-06-2005 11:17
From: Willow Zander
LOL what buttom am I pressing Jojo... I really wanna jam my finger on the button that's shaped like a certain person's eye ;)



...<<<<<holds eye....happy?
Blake Rockwell
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01-06-2005 11:18
I would love a Portrait, I didn't know you did that. :)
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Blake Rockwell
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01-06-2005 11:19
I think we should all get our Portraits from Willow, I definately want one! How much baby?
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Willow Caldera
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Join date: 9 Jul 2004
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01-06-2005 11:21
Nuttin if you're her sister :D

Also, I should like to point out she's DAMN good at em!

I demand one at least 3 times a day ^_^

S'not just that though, copyage is RIFE right now

*scowls*
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Odysseus Bliss
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Join date: 18 Dec 2004
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01-06-2005 11:22
sorry willow. i have to analyse you wthout the facts. you hadn't posted them. besides, is there any way to avoid copying or imitation? isn't this a bit like bitching about the wind?
Blake Rockwell
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01-06-2005 11:22
OH..I better fix my Sig then ask how much. :D
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Blake Rockwell
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01-06-2005 11:26
Where did Willow go??! :(
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Jolene Jade
JOJO THE GREAT
Join date: 12 Aug 2003
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01-06-2005 11:26
From: Willow Caldera
Nuttin if you're her sister :D

Also, I should like to point out she's DAMN good at em!

I demand one at least 3 times a day ^_^

S'not just that though, copyage is RIFE right now

*scowls*



Willow is brilliant at anything she does.....Hey if this update works I am gonna talk to her about WHERE IS MY PICTURE!!??
Willow Caldera
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01-06-2005 11:27
Which one? :p

Probably to kick some ass if I know my sis :D
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Surreal Farber
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Join date: 5 Feb 2004
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01-06-2005 11:27
You are not alone in your frustration Willow.

Ferran and I (Phobos Design) recently found one of our best selling pair of boots had been copied (badly) right down to a similar name. We found this out when a number of our customers sent us irate IMs (along with pictures) telling us about the rip-off.

Unfortunately... it's not technically a rip off. We know it's a copy. They know it's a copy. Anyone who sees our boots and compares them... with the creation dates, knows it's a copy... but there is nothing to prevent that in SL. Unless it's an actual texture rip off via an exploit, the TOS doesn't cover it. The same is true in RL actually unless you safeguard an idea through patent.

Surreal
Forseti Svarog
ESC
Join date: 2 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,730
01-06-2005 11:28
From: Artemis Fate
It's just how Capitalism works, originality isnt profitable.


What bunk. Originality only doesn't work if: 1. you do a lousy job of marketing your originality, or hiring someone to market for you; 2. some party or parties controls awareness and all distribution channels to the customer; 3. there are serious barriers to entry that block out alternatives (think Microsoft OS and bundling/compatibility issues).

Now, it's probably harder in some ways to get the word out about new products than it used to be, but the community is not so big and economy so mature that ANYONE owns the distribution channels to potential customers.

Originality may not be EVERYTHING ... ie it's not enough to be original and declare yourself the market winner, but it sure can be profitable!

That said, on Willow's post: if the stuff copied is general ideas, like "ninja av" or "braided hair" then "copying" is to be expected and the ideas are so general it really can't be considered copying. But if you're talking about really specific stuff, Willow, like a particular piece of clothing with a custom texture and custom accessories, and someone is just copying to get around paying, then that sucks and i can understand why you are pissed.
Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
Join date: 22 May 2004
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01-06-2005 11:31
I am here SORRY! dealing with a child with a temperature of 106 :eek:

Anyways... back on track... WTF is bitching without the wind for a start...

Blakey I don't charge cos they ain't THAT great rofl..

JOJO... IM ME BYOTCH and we can fix something up in world..

Sis... keep kissing my boots and u will get more done..

and Surreal, can I help kick someones ass :)

*breathes*
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Willow Caldera
Ice's Angel of Death ^_^
Join date: 9 Jul 2004
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01-06-2005 11:31
It's not just items - it's ideas and thoughts and actions, the whole shebang.

One might call it clonedom if one were being conceited :p

So many similarities going on between what we do and what is done by certain others that annoyance is now well and truly at boiling point.
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Julzz Hatfield
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01-06-2005 11:31
Wooot Sl Is Back Up!!!!!
Blake Rockwell
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Join date: 31 Oct 2004
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01-06-2005 11:33
From: Willow Zander
I am here SORRY! dealing with a child with a temperature of 106 :eek:

Anyways... back on track... WTF is bitching without the wind for a start...

Blakey I don't charge cos they ain't THAT great rofl..

JOJO... IM ME BYOTCH and we can fix something up in world..

Sis... keep kissing my boots and u will get more done..

and Surreal, can I help kick someones ass :)

*breathes*


106!! WOAH! You better get your Child to the Hospital now dear!!
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Jolene Jade
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Join date: 12 Aug 2003
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01-06-2005 11:35
From: Surreal Farber
You are not alone in your frustration Willow.

Ferran and I (Phobos Design) recently found one of our best selling pair of boots had been copied (badly) right down to a similar name. We found this out when a number of our customers sent us irate IMs (along with pictures) telling us about the rip-off.

Unfortunately... it's not technically a rip off. We know it's a copy. They know it's a copy. Anyone who sees our boots and compares them... with the creation dates, knows it's a copy... but there is nothing to prevent that in SL. Unless it's an actual texture rip off via an exploit, the TOS doesn't cover it. The same is true in RL actually unless you safeguard an idea through patent.

Surreal


Just look at Al Yankovich......I think he is the sibling of Howard Stern that was hid in the basement away from public eye for most of his childhood.....*shivers*
Willow Zander
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Join date: 22 May 2004
Posts: 9,935
01-06-2005 11:35
Nope, its happened before, she just runs REALLY high temps when she's ill, she asleep now :) hopefully the rest will do her good... poor lil blighter!
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Blake Rockwell
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01-06-2005 11:37
Willow I Am Serious..get Your Child To The Hospital!!!!
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Lecktor Hannibal
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Join date: 1 Jul 2004
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01-06-2005 11:37
Ummm , I'm with Blake on this/ 106 is way too high a fever for a child !
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Kyrah Abattoir
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Join date: 4 Jun 2004
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01-06-2005 11:38
personalle when i reuse an used concept i do the necessary things to do way better than the one that did before me

so i get the customers ^_^

there is no law agains reverse engineering in sl right?
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Maladroit DeFarge
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Join date: 3 Jan 2005
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01-06-2005 11:39
Object creators: don't try to fight copiers by screaming and fighting and trying to get them in trouble with SL admins. Start off with the assumption that there is no way to actually prevent anyone from ripping off your idea.

Instead, fight this with smart marketing. It's just like in RL. Does that watch look like a Rolex? Yeah. But is it a REAL Rolex? No, it's a cheap imitation. A knockoff, like Sam's Club has "Dr. Thunder" and "Mountain Lightning."

"Is that a pair of genuine Phobos Design boots?"

You have build up name recognition and attach value to an item because of where it came from. That's how 99% of RL businesses operate. Do I want "Niko" shoes or "Nike" shoes?
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